List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[Barrybran]

Are you saying you dont think Geelong will bid with their 1st?

Because otherwise our only question is if there will be better options at 34. If Geelongs recruiters rate him as a 1st rounder, I find it hard to believe hes not better than anyone after pick 34

I don't think Geelong makes a bid there, no. Look at our mock draft and players like Marsh, Barker, Phillipou and NHH were all still on the board at that pick. There's a world where Josh Lindsay, a Geelong product, could make it to that pick as well. Perhaps Geelong rate Williams but he's been ranked in the first round fairly sporadically so far.

 

[Lucev23]

Not sure if that's a piss take but would be a pick in the 20s.

I found it a little strange too but it is 100% what he has said.

 

[ronpingwins]

If Geelong like him then he’s probably a gun. ROYAL EAGLE has been pretty strong all year that we like C Curtin and Swadling, I guess we want to hold the pick for them.

 

[Elite Pete]

Oskar Smartt signing with East Freo I guess that’s why he was moving west

 

[shooshka]

We always think we're the smartest in the room and it's worked out so well for us in recent years.

Recent years - it probably has.

Cadman or Ginbey + Hewett

Don’t trade the pick for HR away no matter what is offered

Try to trade up for Shanahan but fail (we were not paying Nth prices), then refuse to trade the pick used on him even though there were offers.

Too early to say on 3 for 12+14, but Baker won our B&F, Allen played a couple of games and had some moments, Smith obviously had that injury so is yet to debut.

 

[wceeaglesfan]

Recent years - it probably has.

Cadman or Ginbey + Hewett

Don’t trade the pick for HR away no matter what is offered

Try to trade up for Shanahan but fail (we were not paying Nth prices), then refuse to trade the pick used on him even though there were offers.

Too early to say on 3 for 12+14, but Baker won our B&F, Allen played a couple of games and had some moments, Smith obviously had that injury so is yet to debut.

I would take ginbey and hewett over cadman any day

 

[LewyBroome]

Baffling that we aren't pulling the same move.

I mean, did we expect anything less? We should be renamed the West Coast Clipper as we always miss the boat, not by a bit but by the length of Flemington straight.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Is there any chance we delisted 1-2 players this week but yet to announce?

 

[Proeagle]

"The Bombers could do a deal with the Suns, which would see the Dons package up pick 21 and 27 for pick 15. The Suns have a bounty of Academy players in their sights this year, including Zeke Uwland and Dylan Patterson, so securing enough points for those players is high on their priority list.

If that deal did occur, the Bombers could then try and trade pick 15 and pick 5 or 6 to the Eagles, but it is believed the Eagles would be more interested in a future first-round pick."

Liking that last line. Really hoping we manage to get more picks in the top 10 next year.

Guess we will see how desperate the bombers are for CDT. Personally, 5 and 15 doesnt excite me for pick 2. Make them handover pick 5 or 6 and future first if they really want CDT.

 

[Rowan18]

There's another option to explain the lack of opening an extra spot. We don't rate the draft, take two round one selections only (1 and 2) and trade 13 into 2026.

Or, that's plan A, but if someone we love is at 13 we take them (being happy to let the last NGA go if necessary). Otherwise we trade it out to 2026.

 

[sharps24]

Ready for the blowback for the question...

But are we completely certain we need to even delist Cripps (or anyone) to do what we need to do?

Very hard to find actual solid info of our list situation, especially with the extra rookie spots

There is an advantage to keeping him on the main list and thats that a one year deal on the main list means we have someone else to delist from the main list at the end of 2026. If we free the spot and take someone in the draft we have less options next year as fewer and fewer on the main list are at retirement/delist stage.

 

[LewyBroome]

Is there any chance we delisted 1-2 players this week but yet to announce?

Barnett and Johnstone. Done

 

[twce13]

Assuming we didn’t delist anyone and we have just the 5 spots, does that mean our picks in the 50s are officially gone ?

 

[kingerzz]

There's another option to explain the lack of opening an extra spot. We don't rate the draft, take two round one selections only (1 and 2) and trade 13 into 2026.

Or, that's plan A, but if someone we love is at 13 we take them (being happy to let the last NGA go if necessary). Otherwise we trade it out to 2026.

I'm not sure that holds up - We specifically used our picks in the Starcevich trade to get up to pick 13. Not sure we bother if our intention is to then move 13 into FY26.

 

[eaglevision]

Assuming we didn’t delist anyone and we have just the 5 spots, does that mean our picks in the 50s are officially gone ?

Yes unless we package and trade them pre draft

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

If they want Williams, Geelong would need to using their R1 pick (currently 19) which might move back a couple of spots if Brisbane /Gold Coast move their R1 picks back a little

Based on where our picks 34 and 41 are likely to be at the time Geelong might bid, we’d almost certainly have enough points to match if we chose

Geelong would be rating Williams at or above the likes of O Taylor, Hibbins-Hargreaves, Barker, Ludowycke, Pickett and Addinsall who would all be available around their pick based on Twomey’s ratings. So he’s in pretty good company in that draft range

If we chose not to match we’d be prioritising the likes of Oudshoorn-Bennier, Byrne, Dalton, Rodriguez, Emmett and Curtin who project as possibilities at our 4th pick

It would mean Geelong see something in Williams that we don’t if we don’t match which would be a concern albeit that most rankings have Williams nowhere near that Geelong pick and plenty don’t have him even at our pick in the thirties

If we’ve used 34 to shift 13 higher up the order then matching becomes more difficult

Im a big fan of Tyler but if I had to choose between him and BOB, its BOB by the Flemington Straight.

 

[THE A5]

Oskar Smartt signing with East Freo I guess that’s why he was moving west

Dumbb move, should have gone with Souths

 

[BSD]

Barnett must have the Epstein files or something

Must have the Jeppstein files.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

It's gonna be a bloodbath in this joint on draft night

 

[squashface]

Gut feel is we end up with all our NGAs.

I think we match a Williams bid in the late 20s. No other bids except maybe on Evans who some clubs might see the value in him for a late pick given his potential.

Walley lasts and Banfield I think despite his late run also lasts

 

[Patron]

I'm pretty annoyed we haven't cleared list spots for flexibility in the draft.
Our hands really are tied now for our linked players if multiple bids come, and we've lost a lot of flexibility in being able to take a slider/extra pick if somebody good was still around at our fourth pick.

This is the type of weak list management that I used to give the club the benefit of the doubt around, but át this point I can only assume it's another foolish move.

 

[twce13]

Gut feel is we end up with all our NGAs.

I think we match a Williams bid in the late 20s. No other bids except maybe on Evans who some clubs might see the value in him for a late pick given his potential.

Walley lasts and Banfield I think despite his late run also lasts

The thing I don’t like is assuming Williams gets an earlier bid and then one of Evan’s or banfield get a bid later on we match, then the other clubs will know that the leftover player could be taken if they wish and we can’t do anything about it. I really wish we had at least 6 list spots entering the draft.

I can’t imagine this possibility was lost on the eagles tho, so my suspicion is that someone like Evans they are only prepared to take should he make it to the rookie draft.

 

[BSD]

Gut feel is we end up with all our NGAs.

I think we match a Williams bid in the late 20s. No other bids except maybe on Evans who some clubs might see the value in him for a late pick given his potential.

Walley lasts and Banfield I think despite his late run also lasts

I'd pick Fred before Williams and Walley.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

I'm pretty annoyed we haven't cleared list spots for flexibility in the draft.
Our hands really are tied now for our linked players if multiple bids come, and we've lost a lot of flexibility in being able to take a slider/extra pick if somebody good was still around at our fourth pick.

This is the type of weak list management that I used to give the club the benefit of the doubt around, but át this point I can only assume it's another foolish move.

I can't believe they haven't when so many other clubs have done it.
Perhaps it's really because they don't want to hurt any feelings, but I thought we've moved on from that with Pyke taking over from Nesbitt.
Or were they afraid of the players being poached like Knobel last year? Seems very unlikely for players like Barnett, Johnston or Owies. Even more so for a player in his last season or so like Cripps. Guess we'll see if more players are poached this year.
A certain poster mentioned that delisting young players comes with a risk since they would be unrestricted FA's for life. Which might be a concern if they turn out good, but we can't be worrying about things they may never happen or may never become an issue.
I wonder if the club was spooked by any of these scenarios.
We'll regret it even more if we have to pass on one of our NGA's (and they turn out well) or we don't have any free spots available to draft a slider. Or imagine if we decide to pass on a player to ensure we can match a bid for Banfield, but he never even attracts one. We might have to make a few tough decisions on draft night(s) when we could've not even be facing those issues at all.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Is this the place I collect my apologies?

Been telling everyone for months on Pyke is too weak to make the tough decisions and here we are. Miguel front of the line please