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I believe in true sports fans broadening their sporting interests to include other brands of football so ultimately any true self-respecting sports fan will follow (obvioulsy to varying degrees) the elite professional team from any code who has a professional team bearing the name of your town/city/state/country.

I believe the era of one-code towns/cities/states is fast drawing to a close and the future will see none of the ignorance and cheap shots towards so-called 'other' codes that we use to see as commonplace, and still do somewhat today.

This means the ridiculous 'my code is better than your code' arguments will be a relic of the ignorant past.

The model for the future in eachg city/state around Australia is the set-up in South East Queensland where all codes get good media coverage and the public embraces all football codes at the highest level and lesser levels.

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Either you support me on this or you cling to the one-code wonder towns/cities/states.

Which is it???
 
I'm yet to see any evidence that points to people living in SEQld are more open minded to sports. just because the football codes have a more even support base. does not mean that at an individual level there is a higher rate of cross-code supporters
 

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I agree with littleduck. No reason not to follow many sports. Very keen Pies supporter, want to see the Storm win but not shattered if they don't, tiny bit of interest in the victory but will hop on the new victorian team bandwagon whenever they come in, couldn't care less about the NBL, love the bushrangers.

Huge Middlesbrough fan in the EPL, second sporting love behind the pies. Lakers = like to see them win but doesn't faze me really.



Pointless post:thumbsu:
 
No one is trying to convert anyone from any code

Aussie Rules is coming in to Sydney West and GC and that is that

Accept it or not, it will grow

Negativity on this forum won't amount to anything
 
I believe in true sports fans broadening their sporting interests to include other brands of football so ultimately any true self-respecting sports fan will follow (obvioulsy to varying degrees) the elite professional team from any code who has a professional team bearing the name of your town/city/state/country.

I believe the era of one-code towns/cities/states is fast drawing to a close and the future will see none of the ignorance and cheap shots towards so-called 'other' codes that we use to see as commonplace, and still do somewhat today.

This means the ridiculous 'my code is better than your code' arguments will be a relic of the ignorant past.

The model for the future in eachg city/state around Australia is the set-up in South East Queensland where all codes get good media coverage and the public embraces all football codes at the highest level and lesser levels.

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Either you support me on this or you cling to the one-code wonder towns/cities/states.

Which is it???

No.:thumbsdown:
 
There's a lot of sporting xenophobia when it comes to AFL fans. Of course AFL is my first love but I have a keen interest in other team sports ranging from both rugby codes, soccer and even baseball. I don't follow the gaelic sports at all but I love to watch them when they (very rarely) appear on the telly, particularly hurling. I think the precedent for good cross-code relations is in America, where the four major codes (American Football, Ice Hockey, Baseball and Basketball) exist in relative harmony, and American 'sports' fans are generally avid followers of all four codes. There's none of this 'my sport is better than your sport' rubbish which can only be based on purely subjective opinions. I have no problem with people disliking rugby league, but why make a fuss about it? Why all this puffing of the chest about how great AFL is? Same goes for the RL fans who constantly hate on the AFL, and for both sets of fans who hate on soccer!
 

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There's a lot of sporting xenophobia when it comes to AFL fans. Of course AFL is my first love but I have a keen interest in other team sports ranging from both rugby codes, soccer and even baseball. I don't follow the gaelic sports at all but I love to watch them when they (very rarely) appear on the telly, particularly hurling. I think the precedent for good cross-code relations is in America, where the four major codes (American Football, Ice Hockey, Baseball and Basketball) exist in relative harmony, and American 'sports' fans are generally avid followers of all four codes. There's none of this 'my sport is better than your sport' rubbish which can only be based on purely subjective opinions. I have no problem with people disliking rugby league, but why make a fuss about it? Why all this puffing of the chest about how great AFL is? Same goes for the RL fans who constantly hate on the AFL, and for both sets of fans who hate on soccer!
Aussie Rules fans tend to be the most broad minded of all footy fans when it comes to other codes (maybe union though I'm yet to meet him:p), despite what you read here. If you don't believe me you should take a visit to a soccer or Rugby League forum.
 
This is a great thread. No reason why people can't support all footy codes (and that includes ppl such as ParraEelsNRL and others from NSW/Qld, who don't give AFL the time of day). Each code has so much to offer in it's own way, and there is nothing better then having more then one side to cheer on each weekend. I wish some immature ppl on this board would just grow up. There is more to life then one sport.:cool:

To emphasise this, last night I watched SOO, I will watch AFL on Fri/Sat, go see the Storm play Sunday, and if Victory were playing, you bet I would be there. All in the name of football.:thumbsu:
 
I believe in true sports fans broadening their sporting interests to include other brands of football so ultimately any true self-respecting sports fan will follow (obvioulsy to varying degrees) the elite professional team from any code who has a professional team bearing the name of your town/city/state/country.

Perhaps the greatest pile of crap I have ever heard.

Listen, if you are so 'open-minded' that you follow every sport from your city, state and nation, then you are in fact a very close minded individual.

You see, not every sport appeals to every fan. Not every team appeals to every demographic. If you fail to use your own discretion on what appeals to you, then you are simply a drone. You don't follow sport for pleasure or passion, you simply follow sport because you feel you should.

I have no interest in the NRL. And if i were to follow a team, it wouldnt be a plastic privately owned soulless franchise like the Storm, despite coming from Melbourne. This doesn't make me close minded. It means that i don't like Rugby, and I don't like what the storm represents.

I don't care if you label me a true sports fan or not. Go take your narrow minded theory elsewhere.
 
What is your point? That all sports are equal and we should support them all rather than favouring one sport? That the sporting culture ingrained into the the various regions of Australia over generations will somehow dissappear? And that this would be a good thing?

Either way, I disagree.
 
Here is an extract from the convict creations website.

Current trends seem to be indicating that all four codes are experiencing growth as football fans who traditionally followed one sport, are trying out new entrants to the market. Although it may be a trend now, the phenomenon of following multiple codes is likely to be temporary. Long term, fans will eventually decide on their favourite. Passionate fans just don’t have the time, money or emotional energy to support four codes of football in one weekend. The only fans who can are the fair-weather variety who have little commercial value to the code.
Even if fans wanted to follow all codes, the administration of each code is not guided by a love of pluralism. Each code wants to increase its market share and destroy the competition. It will use the money that it makes to achieve this objective. NRL chief executive David Gallop was honest enough to give his opinion on the ideal fan when he said:
" We expect these days a lot of people are going to sample all the codes, but the people we love are the people who don't go to anything else but rugby league, become season ticket-holders, talk about it over the water cooler every day and come up to you in the summer and say, 'Can't wait for the footy to start'."
http://www.convictcreations.com/football/codebattle.htm
 

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Not in Victoria LD.

Not many amongst the 200K who go to the footy every week would also be amongst the 12K who go to Storm games every fortnight.

A Storm crowd could not be more different to an AFL crowd.

Less than 1000 regular Storm fans would also be AFL fans.

Not many people follow more than one winter code passionately.

It may appear that way in GC, where there are lots of ex - pat Vics & NSW, or Perth, where there are heaps of Sth Africans & poms who go to the Rugby, but in reality they are not the same people who follow the home grown codes.

No legs in this theory LD.

Everyone is against you.
 
Plus, Geelong and GC aside, the AFL does not have team in regional centres, where the community seems to rally behind new local teams more passionately that city slickers.
 
You see, not every sport appeals to every fan.
I didn't say you should follow every sport there is going.

Not every team appeals to every demographic. If you fail to use your own discretion on what appeals to you, then you are simply a drone.
Of course some sports appeal to you more than others.

I have no interest in the NRL. And if i were to follow a team, it wouldnt be a plastic privately owned soulless franchise like the Storm, despite coming from Melbourne. This doesn't make me close minded. It means that i don't like Rugby, and I don't like what the storm represents.

I don't care if you label me a true sports fan or not. Go take your narrow minded theory elsewhere.
It's fine to exercise your own discretion not to follow the Melbourne Storm, but then you go on and actively promote your dislike of RL with passion. You see, if you exercised your discretion not to follow the Melbourne Storm and all things RL dispassionately that would be fine, but you actively dislike it with passion. This is what makes you a anti-RL and pro-AFL troll.
 
Agree LD (but it helps when you have lived in more than 1 state)

Love Cricket, AFL, Union & League and will watch pretty much anything with a ball where they keep score - soccer, NFL, netball, baseball. Only ball sport I don't really get is basketball.

Can never understand people who only watch 1 or 2 sports. the more the better
 
Here is an extract from the convict creations website.


http://www.convictcreations.com/football/codebattle.htm

Gallop - ""We expect these days a lot of people are going to sample all the codes, but the people we love are the people who don't go to anything else but rugby league, become season ticket-holders, talk about it over the water cooler every day and come up to you in the summer and say, 'Can't wait for the footy to start'.""


Well i chat to people here at work (Mostly those from the Northern States) almost every day about the weekends NRL games. I also have season tickets to the Storm and Wests Tigers. This year have spent more than a grand on new jerseys. Have only missed one Storm game so far this season AND have flown to Sydney 4 times already for games and still have two more trips (Sydney 2nd last round, GC last round) to come.


Yet Gallop's saying I'm not his preferred type of supporter simply because I also happen to quite passionately support Richmond?!


Get the ____ outta here.
 

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