manureid
Laziest Poster on Figbooty
Yes.
Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 2.
- Thread starter RossFC
- Start date
- Tagged users None
- Status
TeeKray
Moderator
Port Adelaide - Allir Allir Player Sponsor 2021
Port Adelaide - Kane Farrell Player Sponsor 2021
Port Adelaide Forum Tipping Champion
Bring Back the Bars
Port Adelaide - Connor Rozee Player Sponsor 2020
Port Adelaide - Zak Butters 2019 Player Sponsor
Port Adelaide - Jack Watts Player Sponsor 2018
Port Adelaide - Riley Bonner Player Sponsor 2016
- Moderator
- #9,352
Yeah but the supply/demand curve for labour doesn't exist in isolation, it exists in tandem with the supply/demand curve for the product. Simply put, if you paid fruit pickers a livable salary and upped the price of the fruit at least somewhat to compensate for the higher production cost, the amount of fruit being bought would nosedive, fruit farms would go bust, and then you don't have any job at all let alone a decent paid one.
The mines are actually an apt example because they are the same. When the iron ore price plummeted 7 or 8 years ago, mining companies slashed head counts, wages stagnated, many smaller companies went out of business. Those higher wages only exist so long as the demand for the product remains at the higher price level. In WA, we went from just about anybody could get a decent job to almost nobody could get any job at all within the space of about 18 months. It's not just about the supply/demand of labour, the supply/demand for the product is much more important.
Eddie Dingle
Moving chairs
Suggesting that anyone that started with $50mil (no matter what they turned it into) is self made is just ******* dumb.
- Mar 1, 2014
- 13,957
- 17,612
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Cronulla Sutherland Sharks
Another day another 3 COVID cases linked to the Australian open.
www.dailymail.co.uk
PS Please do not try Ms Sierra's stunt at home.
Bernard Tomic practices tennis in his hotel quarantine room
Bernard Tomic was seen gripping an orange raquet through the window of his room at a Melbourne hotel, where he is staying with his Love Island star girlfriend Vanessa Sierra.
PS Please do not try Ms Sierra's stunt at home.
That Gina is self made is a real early contender for dumbest post of the year
She inherited a company worth 75m in March 1992 according to Wikipedia. That's 145m in today's money
She inherited a company worth 75m in March 1992 according to Wikipedia. That's 145m in today's money
- Jul 26, 2020
- 11,492
- 31,911
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
Back to the Rona pls.
- Oct 8, 2004
- 17,923
- 24,172
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Liverpool
A worrisome coronavirus variant is being found in more and more outbreaks in California — including a large outbreak in San Jose in which an air-powered Christmas tree costume led to 90 infections, according to news reports.
Scientists don't know yet whether the variant, called L452R, is more transmissible than other strains of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. But its presence in multiple unrelated outbreaks has health officials on guard.
"The fact that this variant was identified in several large outbreaks in our county is a red flag and must be investigated further," Santa Clara County health officer Sara Cody said in a statement.
The L452R variant is different from the B.1.1.7 variant first found in the United Kingdom and subsequently discovered in Colorado and nine other U.S. states. Researchers calculate that the B.1.1.7 variant is between 50% and 74% more transmissible than the standard coronavirus strain. That new strain may dominate U.S. coronavirus cases by March, given its propensity to spread. Fortunately, vaccines will likely work against the B.1.1.7 variant, but it could put severe pressure on the health care system and cause deaths to rise before most of the general population can be vaccinated.
Less is known about L452R. That variant was first detected in May 2020, but it's become increasingly common since the fall. According to the Eureka Times-Standard, the L452R variant was found in about 3.8% of cases that were subject to gene sequencing in November. By late December to early January, the variant was represented in 25.2% of sequenced virus samples. However, relatively few samples have been sequenced, and sequencing isn't done evenly across the state. According to the Santa Clara County Public Health Department, the new variant has been found in Santa Clara County, Humboldt, Lake, Los Angeles, Mono, Monterey, Orange, Riverside, San Francisco, San Bernardino, San Diego and San Luis Obispo counties. But it's too soon to say how many cases overall in California are due to the L452R variant.
Scientists don't know yet whether the variant, called L452R, is more transmissible than other strains of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. But its presence in multiple unrelated outbreaks has health officials on guard.
"The fact that this variant was identified in several large outbreaks in our county is a red flag and must be investigated further," Santa Clara County health officer Sara Cody said in a statement.
The L452R variant is different from the B.1.1.7 variant first found in the United Kingdom and subsequently discovered in Colorado and nine other U.S. states. Researchers calculate that the B.1.1.7 variant is between 50% and 74% more transmissible than the standard coronavirus strain. That new strain may dominate U.S. coronavirus cases by March, given its propensity to spread. Fortunately, vaccines will likely work against the B.1.1.7 variant, but it could put severe pressure on the health care system and cause deaths to rise before most of the general population can be vaccinated.
Less is known about L452R. That variant was first detected in May 2020, but it's become increasingly common since the fall. According to the Eureka Times-Standard, the L452R variant was found in about 3.8% of cases that were subject to gene sequencing in November. By late December to early January, the variant was represented in 25.2% of sequenced virus samples. However, relatively few samples have been sequenced, and sequencing isn't done evenly across the state. According to the Santa Clara County Public Health Department, the new variant has been found in Santa Clara County, Humboldt, Lake, Los Angeles, Mono, Monterey, Orange, Riverside, San Francisco, San Bernardino, San Diego and San Luis Obispo counties. But it's too soon to say how many cases overall in California are due to the L452R variant.
Doctor Feel
Shitposter In Chief
what in the ******* hell is an "air-powered christmas tree costume" lmao
- Jul 26, 2020
- 11,492
- 31,911
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
Must have had a valve that you cough into with rona and then everyone sucks it out.
Doctor Feel
Shitposter In Chief
air-powered christmas tree bong
- Feb 20, 2013
- 2,860
- 13,325
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Chicago Bulls
Doctor Feel
Shitposter In Chief
lol 90 infections from that. Were they having orgies in it like dirty mike and the boys?
RussellEbertHandball
Flick pass expert
Good lesson in the constitutional powers last night on 7.30.
Quarantine was the only health power the feds were given by the colonies/states back in 1901. Why did the states agree at national cabinet to take over from the feds the running of it?? 1) data and dollars and 2) they knew they had the capacity to do it better than the feds as the feds just distribute $$$, they don't have a public health capacity. The feds unlike 1919 haven't built facilities to run it.
www.abc.net.au
LAURA TINGLE: Human quarantine has been a big issue going back to the days when visiting ships could bring infectious diseases into the colonies.
Quarantine was, in fact, the only health power given to the new federation in 1901 and has been used to deal with threats ranging from smallpox to the ravages of the Spanish flu in 1919.
REPORTER: It is thought at least 50 million people died.
LAURA TINGLE: But the carve-up of responsibilities between the Federal Government and the states has always been problematic. Fast-forward to the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic last year.
SANDRA SULLY, NEWS READER: Tonight, new drastic measures on coronavirus…
LAURA TINGLE: In March, with the decision to require all returning Australians and other travellers to quarantine for 14 days, a deal was struck between Scott Morrison and state and territory leaders.
The states and territories are running hotel quarantine as part of their broader responsibility for public health despite it being a federal role under the constitution.
The states agreed to run the quarantine system, and fund most of it. You might find that surprising, given the usual fights over money but the states give a number of reasons why they were happy with this arrangement.
They needed Canberra to use its Centrelink systems to distribute income support to casual workers who might be holding down multiple jobs and as a result, be spreading the virus.
There was also, quite frankly, a lack of confidence in Canberra's capacity to run the quarantine system. States point to the fact that one of the biggest crises was in the federally regulated aged care sector.
Finally, it was not just international borders that had to be considered but interstate ones. From the federal government's perspective, it has been saved a lot of money and been kept clear of any political fallout from systemic failures in hotel quarantine.
SCOTT MORRISON, PRIME MINISTER: In all other states and territories, I think the experience has been quite different to Victoria and that is a great shame in Victoria.
CHRIS BOWEN, SHADOW HEALTH MINISTER: It's good that the states took their share of getting the job done but, ultimately, it's the Prime Minister and the Federal Government, who are constitutionally responsible for quarantine And we've had outbreaks in quarantine in four separate states.
LAURA TINGLE: There have been a number of inquiries into the system notably the Halton review of hotel quarantine arrangements and the Senate inquiry into the response to COVID-19.
EXCERPT FROM THE NATIONAL REVIEW OF HOTEL QUARANTINE: The hotel quarantine system is vulnerable to breaches and these are hard to eliminate. It is also an expensive resource and comes at a high cost to individual, social and economic wellbeing.
LAURA TINGLE: The review found using hotels for quarantine was essentially the best option when it was setup but it suggested a national quarantine facility be established and kept at the ready in the case of a sudden surge in incoming cases as travel takes off again.
The Federal Government has been sending people brought back to Australia on repatriation flights to Howard Springs - a disused workers' camp in the Northern Territory that can handle 850 arrivals a fortnight and it plans to send more to sites in Canberra and Tasmania.
In an interim report last month, the Senate inquiry into the handling of the pandemic argued, "There remains a number of options that the Australian Government could utilise including expanding commonwealth funded quarantine facilities to help get stranded Australians home."
SENATOR KATY GALLAGHER: Why isn't the Commonwealth solving it, like, opening quarantine facilities, running them, using the ADF?
LACHLAN COLQUHOUN, DEPARTMENT OF PRIME MINISTER AND CABINET: As you understand, Chair, the Commonwealth obviously doesn't have a public health capacity.
The ADF element is a point that, of course, has been raised. The ADF, all medical personnel in the ADF amounts to 935 staff. They are almost all deployed supporting states and territories already.
So the real limiting factor in increasing quarantine capacity is the availability of trained medical professionals.
LAURA TINGLE: And this brings us to the biggest question for the quarantine system in the future - who staffs it and who pays for it?
Right now, the Federal Government's contribution in dollars and man power comes from the deployment of 1,500 Defence Force members to the system.
Quarantine is chewing up huge state police resources too. For example, there are 900 Victorian police officers working in that state's system alone.
CHRIS BOWEN: I don't think a shortage of doctors is the main pressure on quarantine. It involves security, it involves transport and the strains we've seen on the quarantine system have come from just those points - security and transport. Now, they are things the Commonwealth has plenty of resources to assist with.
LAURA TINGLE: A new debate about whether to change the quarantine system including using mining camps was started last week by Queensland.
ANNASTACIA PALASZCZUK, QUEENSLAND PREMIER: I am going to put this forward as an option to the Federal Government. Howard Springs works very well in the Northern Territory and there is no reason why we couldn't do something similar here in Queensland or if not around the country.
LAURA TINGLE: Another idea is to move quarantine hotels to regional areas.
BRAD HAZZARD, NSW HEALTH MINISTER: We have about 5,000 people in our quarantine system at any one time and 3,500 staff.
So it would be very challenging to find a regional area that could cope with that. But secondly, our public health officials have indicated that would create further risks for us, particularly in transporting people on buses.
LAURA TINGLE: It all points to an interesting conversation at this week's National Cabinet meeting.
https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/who-is-responsible-for-our-quarantine-system/13068242
Quarantine was the only health power the feds were given by the colonies/states back in 1901. Why did the states agree at national cabinet to take over from the feds the running of it?? 1) data and dollars and 2) they knew they had the capacity to do it better than the feds as the feds just distribute $$$, they don't have a public health capacity. The feds unlike 1919 haven't built facilities to run it.
7.30
www.abc.net.au
LAURA TINGLE: Human quarantine has been a big issue going back to the days when visiting ships could bring infectious diseases into the colonies.
Quarantine was, in fact, the only health power given to the new federation in 1901 and has been used to deal with threats ranging from smallpox to the ravages of the Spanish flu in 1919.
REPORTER: It is thought at least 50 million people died.
LAURA TINGLE: But the carve-up of responsibilities between the Federal Government and the states has always been problematic. Fast-forward to the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic last year.
SANDRA SULLY, NEWS READER: Tonight, new drastic measures on coronavirus…
LAURA TINGLE: In March, with the decision to require all returning Australians and other travellers to quarantine for 14 days, a deal was struck between Scott Morrison and state and territory leaders.
The states and territories are running hotel quarantine as part of their broader responsibility for public health despite it being a federal role under the constitution.
The states agreed to run the quarantine system, and fund most of it. You might find that surprising, given the usual fights over money but the states give a number of reasons why they were happy with this arrangement.
They needed Canberra to use its Centrelink systems to distribute income support to casual workers who might be holding down multiple jobs and as a result, be spreading the virus.
There was also, quite frankly, a lack of confidence in Canberra's capacity to run the quarantine system. States point to the fact that one of the biggest crises was in the federally regulated aged care sector.
Finally, it was not just international borders that had to be considered but interstate ones. From the federal government's perspective, it has been saved a lot of money and been kept clear of any political fallout from systemic failures in hotel quarantine.
SCOTT MORRISON, PRIME MINISTER: In all other states and territories, I think the experience has been quite different to Victoria and that is a great shame in Victoria.
CHRIS BOWEN, SHADOW HEALTH MINISTER: It's good that the states took their share of getting the job done but, ultimately, it's the Prime Minister and the Federal Government, who are constitutionally responsible for quarantine And we've had outbreaks in quarantine in four separate states.
LAURA TINGLE: There have been a number of inquiries into the system notably the Halton review of hotel quarantine arrangements and the Senate inquiry into the response to COVID-19.
EXCERPT FROM THE NATIONAL REVIEW OF HOTEL QUARANTINE: The hotel quarantine system is vulnerable to breaches and these are hard to eliminate. It is also an expensive resource and comes at a high cost to individual, social and economic wellbeing.
LAURA TINGLE: The review found using hotels for quarantine was essentially the best option when it was setup but it suggested a national quarantine facility be established and kept at the ready in the case of a sudden surge in incoming cases as travel takes off again.
The Federal Government has been sending people brought back to Australia on repatriation flights to Howard Springs - a disused workers' camp in the Northern Territory that can handle 850 arrivals a fortnight and it plans to send more to sites in Canberra and Tasmania.
In an interim report last month, the Senate inquiry into the handling of the pandemic argued, "There remains a number of options that the Australian Government could utilise including expanding commonwealth funded quarantine facilities to help get stranded Australians home."
SENATOR KATY GALLAGHER: Why isn't the Commonwealth solving it, like, opening quarantine facilities, running them, using the ADF?
LACHLAN COLQUHOUN, DEPARTMENT OF PRIME MINISTER AND CABINET: As you understand, Chair, the Commonwealth obviously doesn't have a public health capacity.
The ADF element is a point that, of course, has been raised. The ADF, all medical personnel in the ADF amounts to 935 staff. They are almost all deployed supporting states and territories already.
So the real limiting factor in increasing quarantine capacity is the availability of trained medical professionals.
LAURA TINGLE: And this brings us to the biggest question for the quarantine system in the future - who staffs it and who pays for it?
Right now, the Federal Government's contribution in dollars and man power comes from the deployment of 1,500 Defence Force members to the system.
Quarantine is chewing up huge state police resources too. For example, there are 900 Victorian police officers working in that state's system alone.
CHRIS BOWEN: I don't think a shortage of doctors is the main pressure on quarantine. It involves security, it involves transport and the strains we've seen on the quarantine system have come from just those points - security and transport. Now, they are things the Commonwealth has plenty of resources to assist with.
LAURA TINGLE: A new debate about whether to change the quarantine system including using mining camps was started last week by Queensland.
ANNASTACIA PALASZCZUK, QUEENSLAND PREMIER: I am going to put this forward as an option to the Federal Government. Howard Springs works very well in the Northern Territory and there is no reason why we couldn't do something similar here in Queensland or if not around the country.
LAURA TINGLE: Another idea is to move quarantine hotels to regional areas.
BRAD HAZZARD, NSW HEALTH MINISTER: We have about 5,000 people in our quarantine system at any one time and 3,500 staff.
So it would be very challenging to find a regional area that could cope with that. But secondly, our public health officials have indicated that would create further risks for us, particularly in transporting people on buses.
LAURA TINGLE: It all points to an interesting conversation at this week's National Cabinet meeting.
https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/who-is-responsible-for-our-quarantine-system/13068242
- Oct 8, 2004
- 17,923
- 24,172
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Liverpool
During his final hours in office, Donald Trump issued a presidential proclamation decreasing coronavirus restrictions on foreign travel.
Trump announced he would rescind the travel bans to allow "the unrestricted entry into the United States of persons who have been physically present in the Schengen Area, the United Kingdom (excluding overseas territories outside of Europe), the Republic of Ireland, and the Federative Republic of Brazil" that would begin on January 26th.
However, the start date is after Trump's term ends and incoming White House press secretary Jen Psaki said it will not occur.
"With the pandemic worsening, and more contagious variants emerging around the world, this is not the time to be lifting restrictions on international travel," Psaki tweeted.
Trump announced he would rescind the travel bans to allow "the unrestricted entry into the United States of persons who have been physically present in the Schengen Area, the United Kingdom (excluding overseas territories outside of Europe), the Republic of Ireland, and the Federative Republic of Brazil" that would begin on January 26th.
However, the start date is after Trump's term ends and incoming White House press secretary Jen Psaki said it will not occur.
"With the pandemic worsening, and more contagious variants emerging around the world, this is not the time to be lifting restrictions on international travel," Psaki tweeted.
Sigh... unzips
DaTBird187
What D Farke?
- Feb 9, 2014
- 16,440
- 44,145
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Liverpool, Boston Celtics
Another day another 3 COVID cases linked to the Australian open.
Bernard Tomic practices tennis in his hotel quarantine room
Bernard Tomic was seen gripping an orange raquet through the window of his room at a Melbourne hotel, where he is staying with his Love Island star girlfriend Vanessa Sierra.
PS Please do not try Ms Sierra's stunt at home.
What? Dating a *******?
Huh? nothing has been confirmed the vaccine by itself killed them.
Although extremely unlikely there's always going to be adverse effects in the very vulnerable though. Just as there is to paracetamol... Literally anything you put inside you body.
Duck Farmer's 5 Quick and Simple Rules to Eliminate Coronavirus
1. Wash and sanitise your hands
2. Wear a face mask
3. Keep at least 1.5m distance between yourself and others
4. If you feel unwell get tested and stay home from work
5. Under no circumstance wear an air-powered christmas tree costume
1. Wash and sanitise your hands
2. Wear a face mask
3. Keep at least 1.5m distance between yourself and others
4. If you feel unwell get tested and stay home from work
5. Under no circumstance wear an air-powered christmas tree costume
G3TWOTYAD3S3RV
Premiership Player
- Aug 22, 2016
- 3,014
- 2,745
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Banned
- #9,370
You need money to make money, what part of this don’t you understand ? Also being in the right place at the right time helped. Take all her wealth away from her today, tomorrow gift her $50 million & tell her to replicate what she had previously done. Guaranteed failure
On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app
- Nov 5, 2010
- 1,975
- 5,834
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
This is still an unknown.
In the studies done so far this has not been a reported as a primary endpoint, so it needs further research to truly tell. Participants were only tested if symptomatic/meeting local testing criteria, so asymptomatic infection has not been studied yet (in both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca studies). However, the AstraZeneca trial actually had some data suggesting that it may in fact prevent transmission (some participants were being regularly tested, but there weren’t enough numbers to make a definite conclusion) . So this needs dedicated follow up studies to truly get a clearer picture.
So to state as a fact that we already know that the vaccine does not prevent one from getting COVID is wrong. It’s currently not known and in fact there’s some initial data that can lead to optimism that it may in fact prevent transmission.
- Mar 1, 2014
- 13,957
- 17,612
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Cronulla Sutherland Sharks
The world has been a quieter place over the past fortnight. We have Facebook and Twitter to thank for that.
Less than 24 hours to go.
- Mar 10, 2014
- 9,271
- 10,865
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Man Utd, Celtic, Tanunda
And 70 million Yanks were brain dead enough to vote for this fool?
Fortunately 80 million voted for Sleepy Joe
- not that he overly inspires me, but we are less likely to see the world disintegrate with him at the wheel.
- Mar 10, 2014
- 9,271
- 10,865
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Man Utd, Celtic, Tanunda
And 70 million Yanks were brain dead enough to vote for this fool?
Fortunately 80 million voted for Sleepy Joe
- not that he overly inspires me, but we are less likely to see the world disintegrate with him at the wheel.
- Mar 10, 2014
- 9,271
- 10,865
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Man Utd, Celtic, Tanunda
And 70 million Yanks were brain dead enough to vote for this fool?
Fortunately 80 million voted for Sleepy Joe
- not that he overly inspires me, but we are less likely to see the world disintegrate with him at the wheel.- Status
