Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 4.

[OneGreatClub]

Sheesh just give up now Scotty

 

[chiwigi]

 

[wallumi]

You're confusing intelligence with verbosity and pomposity. (Commonly called 'piss and wind').

Meaningless drivel hidden behind poorly constructed and needlessly wordy dialogue that simply conveys the poster's immense sense of his own importance and the need to convey that sense of superiority to others.

The inability to communicate effectively is the complete opposite of being intelligent in my experience but rather a sign of an inferiority complex.

Each to their own. However communicating is more than just sharing familiar and comfortable feelings and memes. The situation illuminates the saying that it is easier to give than to receive. Communication requires reasonably equal effort in both directions.

You can believe in a vaccine that by traditional definition is not a vaccine, possibly in similar fashion to your likely equation of McDonalds fine fare with nutrition. Both 'values' are driven via saturation profiling and peer acceptance.

However, regardless of belief, the proof of each pudding is in its results - diabetes, etc. in that latter instance and ongoing cycles of infection, lock-down and scapegoating in the other. Disregard evident and growing factual concern and MANDATE NOW! You know it makes sense.

In fact we've even changed the definition of vaccine to enable this mandate. No one noticed this deft but vital change, except the people who did but we all ignored them by throwing them all into a fabricated crank tank. Never mind the provided facts, feel the over-amplified crank factor. VW fiddled with the definition of its emissions analysis and we all lost our sh*t. The US Govt. and Mirriam Webster dictionary take essentially similar distortive action necessary to validate a medication mandate and we're all cool with that.

I'll leave you to get back to the thread's monotonous conceptual autism and self-validating program of sniping attack upon of other people's informed and well considered actions.

My commiserations that you find reading outside of your simple preferences such a difficult chore.

Cheers to all.

 

[wallumi]

No he wasn’t.

Giggle, Spartacus, giggle, smirk.

Yet no mention whatsoever regarding the Covid19 pathology that I referenced as the point of the posted link.

But you tell me. If you reckon "No he wasn't", then what was he saying?

 

[OneGreatClub]

Each to their own. However communicating is more than just sharing familiar and comfortable feelings and memes. The situation illuminates the saying that it is easier to give than to receive. Communication requires reasonably equal effort in both directions.

You can believe in a vaccine that by traditional definition is not a vaccine, possibly in similar fashion to your likely equation of McDonalds fine fare with nutrition. Both 'values' are driven via saturation profiling and peer acceptance.

However, regardless of belief, the proof of each pudding is in its results - diabetes, etc. in that latter instance and ongoing cycles of infection, lock-down and scapegoating in the other. Disregard evident and growing factual concern and MANDATE NOW! You know it makes sense.

In fact we've even changed the definition of vaccine to enable this mandate. No one noticed this deft but vital change, except the people who did but we all ignored them by throwing them all into a fabricated crank tank. Never mind the provided facts, feel the over-amplified crank factor. VW fiddled with the definition of its emissions analysis and we all lost our sh*t. The US Govt. and Mirriam Webster dictionary take essentially similar distortive action necessary to validate a medication mandate and we're all cool with that.

I'll leave you to get back to the thread's monotonous conceptual autism and self-validating program of sniping attack upon of other people's informed and well considered actions.

My commiserations that you find reading outside of your simple preferences such a difficult chore.

Cheers to all.

I disagree with your point about some sort of stealth by the elites in changing the definition of vaccine to fool us.

Where did we do this?
When did we do this?

Virologists and immunologists have always known and were saying to us even last year that the new vacccines might not cause sterilising immunity.
Some vaccines do but some don’t, some just prevent ( severe) disease ie rotovirus vaccine for example and obviously Covid19 vaccines.

 

[wallumi]

Remember smallpox?
Same old arguments.

Ye Olde Anti-Vaxxers

As long as there have been vaccines, a vocal minority of public voices have made it their mission to rile up their communities against vaccination. In Montréal, in 1885, those voices were successful – and the results were deadly.

www.gavi.org

Covid-19 anti-vaxxers use century-old arguments | CNN

As we get closer to an effective vaccine for Covid-19, we should expect to see a renewed push of disinformation and vocal resistance from the anti-vaccination movement.

www.cnn.com

You are responding to arguments that I'm not making. A key point is that the 'vaccine' is only now able to be called a vaccine because the definition has been formally changed to accomodate its critical deficiencies.

Listen to this 'crank' (Associate editor of the British Medical Journal) explain the problem:


This current cohort of drugs is simply not comparable to the smallpox vaccine, nor is Covid19 and smallpox for that matter.

 

[backtozero]

Each to their own. However communicating is more than just sharing familiar and comfortable feelings and memes. The situation illuminates the saying that it is easier to give than to receive. Communication requires reasonably equal effort in both directions.

You can believe in a vaccine that by traditional definition is not a vaccine, possibly in similar fashion to your likely equation of McDonalds fine fare with nutrition. Both 'values' are driven via saturation profiling and peer acceptance.

However, regardless of belief, the proof of each pudding is in its results - diabetes, etc. in that latter instance and ongoing cycles of infection, lock-down and scapegoating in the other. Disregard evident and growing factual concern and MANDATE NOW! You know it makes sense.

In fact we've even changed the definition of vaccine to enable this mandate. No one noticed this deft but vital change, except the people who did but we all ignored them by throwing them all into a fabricated crank tank. Never mind the provided facts, feel the over-amplified crank factor. VW fiddled with the definition of its emissions analysis and we all lost our sh*t. The US Govt. and Mirriam Webster dictionary take essentially similar distortive action necessary to validate a medication mandate and we're all cool with that.

I'll leave you to get back to the thread's monotonous conceptual autism and self-validating program of sniping attack upon of other people's informed and well considered actions.

My commiserations that you find reading outside of your simple preferences such a difficult chore.

Cheers to all.

Great post.

 

[OneGreatClub]

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You are responding to arguments that I'm not making. A key point is that the 'vaccine' is only now able to be called a vaccine because the definition has been formally changed to accomodate its critical deficiencies.

Listen to this 'crank' (Associate editor of the British Medical Journal) explain the problem:


This current cohort of drugs is simply not comparable to the smallpox vaccine, nor is Covid19 and smallpox for that matter.

I think you mixed up my two posts.

The links about antivaxxers and smallpox were in response to your ?Spartacus post about elites trying to fool and control us with the vaccines. My point being simply that these anti vax arguments are rehashed and updated from when the smallpox vaccine was released.

My second post was that not all vaccines create sterilising immunity, yet are still a vaccine.

 

[wallumi]

I disagree with your point about some sort of stealth by the elites in changing the definition of vaccine to fool us.

Where did we do this?
When did we do this?

Virologists and immunologists have always known and were saying to us even last year that the new vacccines might not cause sterilising immunity.
Some vaccines do but some don’t, some just prevent ( severe) disease ie rotovirus vaccine for example and obviously Covid19 vaccines.

Refer to the video link just posted referencing in the Mirriam Webster change. The CDC has also similarly changed their definition. The highly qualified medical journalist in the video is not alone in his articulated concern about this change.

 

[benblinkau]

The 12 week wait is in place for those who receive a payout upon being let go or they have excess cash in the bank, if you dad had been employed for the time you said he would have received a redundancy


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He wasn’t employed for that amount of time with same company. Was a casual with no redundancy.


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[HinkleysHeroes]

Why cant we all just agree that the leaders of the world got together in 2019, they invented covid, developed a fake vaccine just so we can be injected with a microbe sized self powering super computer which reports everything we do back to our all powerful leader of the world- Scomo.

 

[wallumi]

I

I think you mixed up my two posts.

The links about antivaxxers and smallpox were in response to your ?Spartacus post about elites trying to fool and control us with the vaccines. My point being simply that these anti vax arguments are rehashed and updated from when the smallpox vaccine was released.

My second post was that not all vaccines create sterilising immunity, yet are still a vaccine.

As I stated clearly, the Spartacus post was respective to its accurate and detailed description of the pathological effects of Covid19. That is a necessary understanding in itself. It also enables recognition of the extent to which standard medical responses amplified the Covid death numbers rather than serving to mitigate them. It also helps to understand the technical issues inherent within the 'vaccine', especially when given to low risk groups, particularly children.
Note that this document went viral on its release and rebuttals have all focussed on it's perceived character. None have addressed the medical description of the disease pathology.

I expressly stated an ambivalence toward the broader political and social aspects within the document. I knew the risk of that being overlooked in a rush toward those more lurid aspects but I decided the physiological descriptions were worth it.

I took your response as being on topic to the Covid issue rather than a needless frolic into the conspiracy zone. Sorry about that error.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Refer to the video link just posted referencing in the Mirriam Webster change. The CDC has also similarly changed their definition. The highly qualified medical journalist in the video is not alone in his articulated concern about this change.

I accept your comment that he may not be alone in his concern, I am sure others would share his views but I am also sure that many many more are not concerned, so why believe this man is correct and the others are wrong?

 

[OneGreatClub]

As I stated clearly, the Spartacus post was respective to its accurate and detailed description of the pathological effects of Covid19. That is a necessary understanding in itself. It also enables recognition of the extent to which standard medical responses amplified the Covid death numbers rather than serving to mitigate them. It also helps to understand the technical issues inherent within the 'vaccine', especially when given to low risk groups, particularly children.
Note that this document went viral on its release and rebuttals have all focussed on it's perceived character. None have addressed the medical description of the disease pathology.

I expressly stated an ambivalence toward the broader political and social aspects within the document. I knew the risk of that being overlooked in a rush toward those more lurid aspects but I decided the physiological descriptions were worth it.

I took your response as being on topic to the Covid issue rather than a needless frolic into the conspiracy zone. Sorry about that error.

Ok, fair enough but then where are his links to support his comments on the mechanics of the disease?

 

[Portology]

Each to their own. However communicating is more than just sharing familiar and comfortable feelings and memes. The situation illuminates the saying that it is easier to give than to receive. Communication requires reasonably equal effort in both directions.

You can believe in a vaccine that by traditional definition is not a vaccine, possibly in similar fashion to your likely equation of McDonalds fine fare with nutrition. Both 'values' are driven via saturation profiling and peer acceptance.

However, regardless of belief, the proof of each pudding is in its results - diabetes, etc. in that latter instance and ongoing cycles of infection, lock-down and scapegoating in the other. Disregard evident and growing factual concern and MANDATE NOW! You know it makes sense.

In fact we've even changed the definition of vaccine to enable this mandate. No one noticed this deft but vital change, except the people who did but we all ignored them by throwing them all into a fabricated crank tank. Never mind the provided facts, feel the over-amplified crank factor. VW fiddled with the definition of its emissions analysis and we all lost our sh*t. The US Govt. and Mirriam Webster dictionary take essentially similar distortive action necessary to validate a medication mandate and we're all cool with that.

I'll leave you to get back to the thread's monotonous conceptual autism and self-validating program of sniping attack upon of other people's informed and well considered actions.

My commiserations that you find reading outside of your simple preferences such a difficult chore.

Cheers to all.

Lol equating VW deliberately and calmly cheating test results, with science under extreme pressure figuring a new way to generate a protective immune response for a member of family of bugs we never managed to have a vaccine for previously, using a literary technicality worthy of the very worst kind of lawyers and pedants

Appalling and disingenuous. Especially considering there are also “method traditionelle” vaccines now.

It’s all sparkling wine to me. Drink whatever kool aid you want.


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[Del165198]

Won't somebody please think of the Miriam Webster's

 

[Portology]

Won't somebody please think of the Miriam Webster's

Bugger the Yanks. More of a Chambers Concise man myself. Scrabble official and all


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[edgie]

Sheesh just give up now Scotty [emoji849]

Yep, give up, guy that has gotten Australia to one of the best vaccinated nations in the world! Hopeless! Worse than Trump!

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[chiwigi]

Giggle, Spartacus, giggle, smirk.

Yet no mention whatsoever regarding the Covid19 pathology that I referenced as the point of the posted link.

But you tell me. If you reckon "No he wasn't", then what was he saying?

Well he wasn’t, but I deleted it as you’ve invoked Godwin’s Law and I ain’t going down that rabbit hole with someone as special as you.

 

[chiwigi]

Yep, give up, guy that has gotten Australia to one of the best vaccinated nations in the world! Hopeless! Worse than Trump!

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He literally washed his hands of the whole thing and left it to the states.
Or are you choosing to forget that part?

 

[OneGreatClub]

Yep, give up, guy that has gotten Australia to one of the best vaccinated nations in the world! Hopeless! Worse than Trump!

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The states got us through this so far in spite of Trump….ooo a freudian slip here methinks

 

[wallumi]

This woman has to do jail time for what is an attempt to falsify the public records and place the general public at risk.

The first part of your charge is inarguable. However the second becomes more moot by the day and with each additional report of fading vaccination efficacy. At some point, if relevant discourse isn't ferociously and entirely prohibited, the authorities will need to empirically define exactly how this mandate alleviates public risk.

The mandate program is quickly becoming a matter of concerted faith maintained by doggedly isolating it from some very troublesome numbers. Many jurisdictions in the world do not share this mandate position. This reported event is a predictable human response by those who do not share the faith and see the personal risk of compliance as too high. Will we choose to quell this natural resistance to a unsoundly explained imperative with unequivocal science or by unrestrained authority? The balance is currently leaning toward the latter.

 

[OneGreatClub]

The first part of your charge is inarguable. However the second becomes more moot by the day and with each additional report of fading vaccination efficacy. At some point, if relevant discourse isn't ferociously and entirely prohibited, the authorities will need to empirically define exactly how this mandate alleviates public risk.

The mandate program is quickly becoming a matter of concerted faith maintained by doggedly isolating it from some very troublesome numbers. Many jurisdictions in the world do not share this mandate position. This reported event is a predictable human response by those who do not share the faith and see the personal risk of compliance as too high. Will we choose to quell this natural resistance to a unsoundly explained imperative with unequivocal science or by unrestrained authority? The balance is currently leaning toward the latter.

You know, if you are a bot, you are a really high quality one.

 

[wallumi]

Ok, fair enough but then where are his links to support his comments on the mechanics of the disease?

On that version of the document they are listed at the end under category headings. There's about 14 pages of them. A later version is footnoted in line but its a download document, not web-view.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

A Carlton player has refused to be vaccinated.