News Coronavirus Thread

[Del191229]

Sorry NSW.

I think it's time to shut the borders and break up the Federation.

Some of us having been saying this before the virus.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Cafes are going to be take away only for a while now.

 

[Smoocher]

Regardless of which mathematical formulas I apply to the Chinese Coronavirus numbers it doesn’t compute.

They are as rubbery as a an ALP budget.

Take it to the Bank.


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[Ether]

This has become your go-to for a guaranteed point like a Kyrgios serve.

But let's be fair - we've all made speculative calls that went awry.

I mean, I wanted us to draft Rohan ahead of Cunnington..

At the risk of getting off track, given the choice of a Cunners type vs a Rohan type in the 2020 draft I suspect that most here would take the Rohan in a heartbeat. Don't you know that we need speed?

Disclaimer: I wanted us to draft Rohan too at the time.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Horizons_00]

Cafes are going to be take away only for a while now.

Why have everything stay open when there will be no people?

Just shutdown the whole country ffs, give our small businesses, families and people some financial relief by paying for our electricity, gas and allow us to stay home

Businesses are crippling all over Australia anyways due to these bans and according to the stats it is not flattening the curve at all.

 

[shintemaster]

Why have everything stay open when there will be no people?

Just shutdown the whole country ffs, give our small businesses and families and people some financial relief by paying for our electricity, gas and allow us to stay home

Businesses are crippling all over Australia anyways due to these bans and according to the stats it is not flattening the curve at all.

Big believer in this. Much better to hit this as hard as possible, as soon as possible while providing financial and policy clarity to everyone. There should be broad based support provided - I'd be inclined to use the extreme nature of the current pandemic as a healthy opportunity to trial a UBI for the next 3 months - across the board nationally. Things like mutual obligations on job seekers should already have been cancelled. All the bullsh*t rules that have been brought in over decades are going to cause huge problems socially now for millions of vulnerable people.

 

[SMaturin]

Surely it’s too soon to see any flattening of the bell curve anyway.
People presenting for testing would have been exposed to the virus over the last how long...

 

[Tectonic]

Why have everything stay open when there will be no people?

Just shutdown the whole country ffs, give our small businesses and families and people some financial relief by paying for our electricity, gas and allow us to stay home

Businesses are crippling all over Australia anyways due to these bans and according to the stats it is not flattening the curve at all.

Maybe they want people to get infected and pass it on at a super slow pace

Iunno, glad I can still keep getting paid right now

 

[giantroo]

 

[Carlos Herrrnandez]

Correct me if I’m wrong by 4 squared metres is essentially an increase from 1.5m to 2m? I would hope this would already be happening by most of us, unless we’ve been getting a ruler out

 

[Pykie]

Does it affect business premises?

No.

Social distancing is 1.5m, it's not law, just recommended spacing.

These are now requirements only allowing 1 person per 4m2 of internal room space.

So if you have a 3 x 3 meeting room, you can't have more than 2 people in it.

5 x 3 physio room - Max of 3 people in it.

Etc.

 

[75-77-96-99]

why dont they publish which suburbs have had confirmed cases - just saying melbourne doesnt really help (sorry im from Vic). this applies for all states..

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I really feel for those in sectors that are getting closed down and are at real risk of being unemployed.

I’m thanking my lucky stars that I don’t have to worry.

 

[arden station]

Has anyone compared the infection rates of the southern v northern hemispheres, say above and below the tropics? Current warmer v colder climates?

Italy's situation is being blamed on alleged weak governance/quasi second world conditions but on that basis you'd expect Brazil and Argentina to be in a similar situation.

I'm no expert, just wondering.

 

[Horace]

Working off the WHO Situation Reports, I thought I would run some numbers. Noting that some figures out of China may or may not be as accurate as we would like, this is what I came up with.

Date	Cases	Weekly	Weekly %	Deaths	Weekly	Weekly %
	Worldwide	Increase	Increase	Worldwide	Increase	Increase
24-01-20	846​			25​
31-01-20	9826​	8980​	1061.47%​	213​	188​	752.00%​
07-02-20	31481​	21655​	220.38%​	638​	425​	199.53%​
14-02-20	49053​	17572​	55.82%​	1383​	745​	116.77%​
21-02-20	76769​	27716​	56.50%​	2247​	864​	62.47%​
28-02-20	83652​	6883​	8.97%​	2858​	611​	27.19%​
05-03-20	95324​	11672​	13.95%​	3281​	423​	14.80%​
12-03-20	125260​	29936​	31.40%​	4613​	1332​	40.60%​
19-03-20	209839​	84579​	67.52%​	8778​	4165​	90.29%​

About 3 weeks ago, when it seems the Chinese were starting to get a handle on things, it would appear that Italy decided to put its best foot forward and my word, they've certainly "excelled".

In percentage terms things were coming down till then, but now that Europe has really joined in, who knows where this will all go.

As yet the USA is early doors, but with plenty of capacity to still "win" the Gold Medal, although you have to wonder what will happen now that it is appearing in many African nations.

 

[Pykie]

why dont they publish which suburbs have had confirmed cases - just saying melbourne doesnt really help (sorry im from Vic). this applies for all states..

Because they don't know where half of them have come from, they haven't traced them.

There's an interactive map of some confirmed cases and confirmed places they have been (mostly olders ones) here - https://covid-19-au.github.io/

 

[SMaturin]

Are recovered cases taken off the running total? I assume so...

 

[75-77-96-99]

Because they don't know where half of them have come from, they haven't traced them.

There's an interactive map of some confirmed cases and confirmed places they have been (mostly olders ones) here - https://covid-19-au.github.io/

yeah i understand that but if they say confirmed case in Caulfield instead of melbourne it would mean residents in that area will be a bit more vigilant

 

[Orange Peanut]

Why have everything stay open when there will be no people?

Just shutdown the whole country ffs, give our small businesses, families and people some financial relief by paying for our electricity, gas and allow us to stay home

Businesses are crippling all over Australia anyways due to these bans and according to the stats it is not flattening the curve at all.

But what do you base this on? Surely the more people who can be working and spending the better - if that contains the spread to a manageable level - which is surely what the medical experts are saying?

My selfishness might be showing through but I would rather keep making money while the experts tell me it's safe. I'm pretty rooted if it all gets shut down now.

 

[groo]

Are recovered cases taken off the running total? I assume so...

No they are not.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

This 100%

Lets not put our health and lives on the line over money. This is not only going to fu** everything up now until June-August but for years after. And let’s not forget the people still waiting for relief from the bush fires and droughts

“Singapore’s infection rate is much lower than other nations.

Scott Morrison has used the small city-state as an example of why we don’t need to close schools or businesses.

But while they haven’t shut society down, Singapore has taken aggressive actions to flatten the curve - ones that Australia has not yet implemented.”

We are reactive instead of proactive

This whole banning 100 people and under and increasing it to 2 meters is all a ******* smoke screen. This is not going to help the people that are losing their jobs, businesses or contracts and prevent the virus from spreading around the country

The differences between Singapore and Australia include:
- Different testing protocols. They can do this as they have more testing kits and we can't domestically produce them yet.
- Wider testing. Again, they have more testing kits and can do this as they got the kits in before the demand hit.

That's really about it, except for differences with the 100 person business.

Everything else, we have done the same or just as strict as them. We've been arguably stricter than them. There's been no wide lockdown there either. So beyond extra testing and better testing protocols, what exactly are you asking for?

 

[Only Forwards]

I think our game gets suspended.

I don't know how an AFL club operates with the 4m2 rule with all staff, physios, medics, trainers, players, coaches and media.

All facets of how a club operates, even at Arden St, the offices, lecture theatre, coaches box's, showers, change rooms - all void the 4m2 rule....

The situation evolves hour to hour day to day.

Honestly have no idea how the AFL sat in a room and made the decision to continue with round 1.

It was dodgy when they made the call and as it's evolving its now going to break regulations as set out today.

The sheer arrogance is astounding.

 

[Only Forwards]

we can't domestically produce them yet

Any idea what is preventing this?

 

[Ether]

Has anyone compared the infection rates of the southern v northern hemispheres, say above and below the tropics? Current warmer v colder climates?

Italy's situation is being blamed on alleged weak governance/quasi second world conditions but on that basis you'd expect Brazil and Argentina to be in a similar situation.

I'm no expert, just wondering.

I saw a piece that observed that some of the hot spots for cases were in similar cool climates with fairly high humidity. The band of similar climates in the southern hemisphere was to the south of Australia, just touching the southern tip of NZ. It was on fb though so take with large grain of salt.