Cricket Discussion - Part 2

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England at 3/253 in the first session on the 4th day should be at least 350 ahead when their innings is over even if they have a collapse, A more likely result is a 400, or, given the late innings heroics we have seen from both teams, a 500 lead. The pitch does not seem to be playing tricks as both sides have collapsed early(England 5/94, New Zealand 5/36) and then recovered with 200+ added by the last 5 wickets. In both innings a 50 has been scored by a bowler with Tim Southee scoring his fourth 50 in tests and Mark Wood his first,
 
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mic59 said:
England at 3/253 in the first session on the 4th day should be at least 350 ahead when their innings is over even if they have a collapse, A more likely result is a 400, or, given the late innings heroics we have seen from both teams, a 500 lead. The pitch does not seem to be playing tricks as both sides have collapsed early(England 5/94, New Zealand 5/36) and then recovered with 200+ added by the last 5 wickets. In both innings a 50 has been scored by a bowler with Tim Southee scoring his fourth 50 in tests and Mark Wood his first,
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England are having a bit of a collapse and are 329 runs ahead with 3 wickets remaining. Bairstow is still there and he added 95 with Wood and 48 with Leach in the first innings, but it would be stretching it a bit to say that is likely to happen again. Could, but I think England would be happy with a 350 lead and ecstatic with a 400 lead.
 
England declare at 9/352, bit of a collapse from 3/262 but a lead of 381 and 4 1/2 sessions to get NZ out. Plenty of time for a result but there could be a bit of rain to force a draw. Bairstow has had some kind of game with 101 and 36 and 5 catches with one innings to come.
 

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Bad light stopped the test in NZ. Now Fox showing the “Crash” Craddock interview with Len Pascoe. He looks like Grandpa from the Munsters.
 
Just before bad light stopped plat at the NZ test there was this exchange among the commentators.

Tharun: "Can someone tell me why the crowd is so excited and continuously chanting something?" Because they are the Barmy Army. And they are mental and they are mad
 
Play abandoned with NZ 0/42 still needing 340 to win. England would appear to be still in a good position but they may not be able to get the full 90 overs in if the conditions do not change all that much. A draw is starting to look more likely.
 
mic59 said:
Play abandoned with NZ 0/42 still needing 340 to win. England would appear to be still in a good position but they may not be able to get the full 90 overs in if the conditions do not change all that much. A draw is starting to look more likely.
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Yes the change to daylight saving has cost them 30 minutes of play today (did they go off early yesterday?).

Play on the first 2 days started at 11 am, change the clocks and play starts at 10:30 am.
 
Garibaldi Red said:
Yes the change to daylight saving has cost them 30 minutes of play today (did they go off early yesterday?).
Play on the first 2 days started at 11 am, change the clocks and play starts at 10:30 am.
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Yes they did go off a bit early on day 3. But not much, NZ faced 18.4 overs and England 66. So that's 84.4 overs in a day with an innings break, not much loss of play at all.
 
philreich said:
Just 612 to win for the Aussies - we should knock off the runs in the final hour tomorrow, and win by 6 wickets :rolleyes:.
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Get your hand off it.
In the real world, England have given themselves a chance against NZ with Broad getting Raval and Williamson with the first two balls of the day and Taylor and Nicholls also going. After being 0/42 overnight NZ are 4/91 and need 291 in 83 overs to win. Forget that, England's the only team with a chance here.
 
NZ 4/124 at lunch. Latham 65 no and Watling 15 no. Latham was dropped on 23 yesterday and missed on 52 today. From the commentary it sounds like both were pretty tough, and in fact the one today was a short leg one that hit Stoneman on the boot.
 
Looks like de Grandhomme and Sodhi and the light will do enough to get NZ out of this. There are meant to be 32 overs to go but the commentators expect more like 16 and with this partnership and then Southee and Wagner who can each hang around it seems pretty unlikely England will get a result.
 
NZ have lot their seventh wicket, Colin de Grandhomme giving Wood his second wicket. But they used up 11 overs after the tea break, assuming bad light will come into play sometime there may only be 10-15 overs to go.
 

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Respect the Poms for fighting it out but hard to see them breaking through a thus far resolute NZ tail - although having said that if Southee and Boult are required to bat regardless of situation they will go down swinging, almost Haddin-like is their disregard for the situation and love of clearing the fence.
 
Everybody thought England would be beaten by the light but it looks like the game will go to the end and NZ will tough it out. It's possible England could have dropped their bundle a bit after tea as NZ still had 4 wickets and England may have thought they only had a handful of overs to get them in.
 
At 7pm I just thought I'd have a look and see how things were going and expected to see Australia otherwise still 3 down or 5 down at the worst. Didn't expect them to crumble to this extent to the 4th greatest loss by runs. Australia feature in the top 5, 3 as winners and 2 as losers.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283901.html

Out of 20/340, 14 wickets fell for 60 runs.
 
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I've never been more relieved to see a tour come to an end. Not sure where to from here for the Aussies, but it's safe to say there's a fair bit more pain on the horizon. Channel 7 news last night suggested that moves could be afoot to shorten the suspensions of our 3 banned cricketers, due to their public display of contrition. But just suppose they're back playing next summer. The ripple effect of this scandal won't go away overnight: one wonders if Warner, Smith and Bancroft will be mentally up for the challenge.

Anyway: it's footy season - go Port!!!!!!
 
Greg Dyer is the Australian Cricketers Association president. Fmd. Dyer who cheated by claiming a catch he spilt against NZ back in 87. What culture?
 
Interesting comments attributed to the late Martin Crowe, who apparently some years back wrote a piece where he referred to David Warner as a `thug', who in his opinion would eventually have a serious detrimental effect on the game.

Crowe's comments were along the lines that he feared a player would eventually get so fed up with Warner's sledging resulting in a physical confrontation on the field.
 
1954 said:
Interesting comments attributed to the late Martin Crowe, who apparently some years back wrote a piece where he referred to David Warner as a `thug', who in his opinion would eventually have a serious detrimental effect on the game.

Crowe's comments were along the lines that he feared a player would eventually get so fed up with Warner's sledging resulting in a physical confrontation on the field.
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Reading between the lines, I get the impression that Warner will never play for Australia again. It's a shame, because the man has so much talent, and replacing him adequately won't be easy. It's just over 12 months until the Ashes in England, and you'd have to say the Poms are firm favourites at this early stage.
 
Foxtel lobs aggressive bid to grab cricket for pay TV


Pay TV could be the financial lifeline Cricket Australia has been hoping for amid speculation Foxtel has lobbed a bid for the rights to broadcast every ball bowled from 2019.Sources close to the discussions believe that Foxtel, which is controlled by News Corp, has made a hefty offer that would see Fox Sports given the right to show all the Test matches, one-day internationals and Twenty20 games.

Free-to-air television networks would likely be given the option to broadcast test matches in simulcast in a deal with Foxtel, but under the condition that a good portion of Twenty20 and one-day games would be kept for pay TV alone.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/...-grab-cricket-for-pay-tv-20180406-p4z83h.html
 
scotty13 said:
Yeah I was impressed by this... scoring over 500 with no one making a century... that is impressive well rounded team batting. SA could learn a lot from that. If we score 400 its usually because 1 player has made a 200 while the rest have failed.
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It was a home final, so Queensland produced a road. No incentive to win. Just bat it out. They only win because Tasmania were forced to chase the win and make a crazy declaration. That's the issue with Shield finals, they can become a snooze fest as the hing teen chases a draw.

It would be interesting if they allowed the visiting teams curators to prepare the pitch.
 
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