Opinion Cricket thread

[WesternRoo]

Why won't the cricket people listen to me - NO MORE MARSH'S EVER IN AUST TEAM.

You can’t drop Shaun. It’s frustrating that shit today, but it won’t and shouldn’t happen at the moment.

He is a very good first class batsman and a good test batsman at home. He adds experience and averages about 35 which is par at the minute.

His previous 2 innings he averaged over 50 in this series.

He has his faults but is is clearly in our top 6 bats in the country at the minute.

 

[spurs]

This is the worst batting line up Australia has ever fielded in my lifetime.

I’m sure in the last 100 years their was worse.

 

[kangaspurs]

Passionate, character and isn't afraid to show his emotions are not what you'd call Warner though. Bully, who cries to Mummy when it comes back at him is a better description. Jimmy Anderson is another in the Warner class.

Yes Kholi is a douche, but he is a douche for his over enthusiastic celebrating of wickets and aggressive body language more than his abusing of opposition players. He plays it hard and he doesn't cry when he cops it back. The same goes with Rabada from Sth. Africa

He is the most Australian Indian cricketer i've ever seen. In fact he reminds of a few Australian captains (pre Micheal Clarke, who i think so little of I - no shit - had to google his name to type this comment,) from our most successful era. Its ironic so many Aussies hate him.

Agree with both of these.

I'm probably in the minority of Australians that genuinely loves Kohli and everything he brings to the sport. Or maybe 'love' isn't the right word, and it's just a very healthy respect. I'm not sure.

Not only is he a phenomenal player to watch, but he's such a ferocious competitor. I don't quite know how anybody can maintain that intensity so consistently. He's great for the game, and it's refreshing that he has has such an obvious respect for Test cricket as the pinnacle of the sport.

 

[ferball]

Agree with both of these.

I'm probably in the minority of Australians that genuinely loves Kohli and everything he brings to the sport. Or maybe 'love' isn't the right word, and it's just a very healthy respect. I'm not sure.

Not only is he a phenomenal player to watch, but he's such a ferocious competitor. I don't quite know how anybody can maintain that intensity so consistently. He's great for the game, and it's refreshing that he has has such an obvious respect for Test cricket as the pinnacle of the sport.

Yeah, i don't mind Kholi for those reasons.

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/pet...ch-australia-boxing-day-test-india/2018-12-17

Handscomb to hang tough, says coach
Australia middle-order batsman has found himself under fire for his technique but Australia batting coach Graeme Hick expects him to stick with it

Australia batting coach Graeme Hick expects Peter Handscomb to stick with his unique batting technique despite calls from two Australian greats that it is not up to international standard.

Test legends Ricky Ponting and Shane Warne suggested Handscomb's batting approach, which sees him stand deep in his crease and play predominantly off the back foot, cannot thrive at the highest level after he was dismissed lbw for 13 playing back to a full ball from India paceman Ishant Sharma.

While Ponting said he'd like to see the selectors stick with Handscomb for the Boxing Day Test, Warne said picking the Victorian is like a "lamb to the slaughter".

But wind the clock back two years and Handscomb's technique was just an interesting quirk, not a mechanical deficiency.

Handscomb plays well back in his crease // Getty
The then 25-year-old enjoyed a red-hot start to his Test career, scoring 54 on debut in a pink-ball Test against South Africa before scoring his maiden century in the Baggy Green a match later in Brisbane against Pakistan.

He added another hundred in the New Year at the SCG and finished his first home Test summer averaging a Bradmanesque 99.75.

But a ruthless interrogation of his technique and temperament by master England seam bowlers Stuart Broad and James Anderson the following summer left Handscomb searching for answers on the run.

He was dropped after two Ashes Tests in 2017-18 despite Australia holding a 2-0 series advantage.

Weight of runs for Victoria in the JLT Sheffield Shield competition saw him return to the Test side at the start of this season, but in four innings to date he's averaging 17 in the Domain Test series against a supreme all-round Indian attack.

Despite the noise around Handscomb's batting style, Hick is of the belief the right-hander will stick to the game plan that's seen him have success at Test level in the past.

"He's really strong minded about the way he wants to play his game," Hick told SEN radio on Monday.

"He started his Test career and had success against Pakistan and like everyone, every side does their homework, everything's analysed, everything down to where you're going to pitch the ball.

"He tried to tinker a little bit but he's gone back to batting to how he wants to bat.

"I didn't chat to him yesterday because he was disappointed, but I'll have a chat with him this morning and just see what way he wants to take it from here.

"We've discussed various options in the past which he tried. Whether he tried them long enough and didn't feel comfortable in them I don't know.

"He's sort of toying with it because he's had a good start to the Shield season, obviously international cricket's a different level.

"Knowing Pete there's a good chance he'll back himself the way he plays. At the end of the day he's out there making the decision.

Handscomb on the 'hurt' of Test axing
"There's no point in him going out there and trying to bat like someone else."

Playing from the crease, Handscomb does not take a big stride to the pitch of the ball when looking to drive down the ground.

Hick says it's an area Handscomb can improve on, not only as a scoring option but to put the pressure back on the bowler.

"Without doubt he's missing a few balls on the front foot," Hick said.

"When the bowler's able to bowl that full to any batsman you're not reversing the pressure on them and (it) gives the bowler a little more leeway.

"As a batter you want to be able to reverse pressure.

"There will be times when you have to sit tight, but I think he's certainly missing a few balls there that would help him get into his innings.

"We've had those discussions and will revisit them today and just see what he wants to do.

"He's been working at it, he started well in the Shield season, we've just got to see if there's a breakdown in what's happening in Shield cricket and what's happening out here."

 

[gokangas]

Probably 50 short. Aussies caved in against very inspired bowling. let's see if our boys can find the same level of passion.

 

[gokangas]

Nice start.

 

[Snake_Baker]

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/pet...ch-australia-boxing-day-test-india/2018-12-17

Handscomb to hang tough, says coach
Australia middle-order batsman has found himself under fire for his technique but Australia batting coach Graeme Hick expects him to stick with it

Australia batting coach Graeme Hick expects Peter Handscomb to stick with his unique batting technique despite calls from two Australian greats that it is not up to international standard.

Test legends Ricky Ponting and Shane Warne suggested Handscomb's batting approach, which sees him stand deep in his crease and play predominantly off the back foot, cannot thrive at the highest level after he was dismissed lbw for 13 playing back to a full ball from India paceman Ishant Sharma.

While Ponting said he'd like to see the selectors stick with Handscomb for the Boxing Day Test, Warne said picking the Victorian is like a "lamb to the slaughter".

But wind the clock back two years and Handscomb's technique was just an interesting quirk, not a mechanical deficiency.

Handscomb plays well back in his crease // Getty
The then 25-year-old enjoyed a red-hot start to his Test career, scoring 54 on debut in a pink-ball Test against South Africa before scoring his maiden century in the Baggy Green a match later in Brisbane against Pakistan.

He added another hundred in the New Year at the SCG and finished his first home Test summer averaging a Bradmanesque 99.75.

But a ruthless interrogation of his technique and temperament by master England seam bowlers Stuart Broad and James Anderson the following summer left Handscomb searching for answers on the run.

He was dropped after two Ashes Tests in 2017-18 despite Australia holding a 2-0 series advantage.

Weight of runs for Victoria in the JLT Sheffield Shield competition saw him return to the Test side at the start of this season, but in four innings to date he's averaging 17 in the Domain Test series against a supreme all-round Indian attack.

Despite the noise around Handscomb's batting style, Hick is of the belief the right-hander will stick to the game plan that's seen him have success at Test level in the past.

"He's really strong minded about the way he wants to play his game," Hick told SEN radio on Monday.

"He started his Test career and had success against Pakistan and like everyone, every side does their homework, everything's analysed, everything down to where you're going to pitch the ball.

"He tried to tinker a little bit but he's gone back to batting to how he wants to bat.

"I didn't chat to him yesterday because he was disappointed, but I'll have a chat with him this morning and just see what way he wants to take it from here.

"We've discussed various options in the past which he tried. Whether he tried them long enough and didn't feel comfortable in them I don't know.

"He's sort of toying with it because he's had a good start to the Shield season, obviously international cricket's a different level.

"Knowing Pete there's a good chance he'll back himself the way he plays. At the end of the day he's out there making the decision.

Handscomb on the 'hurt' of Test axing
"There's no point in him going out there and trying to bat like someone else."

Playing from the crease, Handscomb does not take a big stride to the pitch of the ball when looking to drive down the ground.

Hick says it's an area Handscomb can improve on, not only as a scoring option but to put the pressure back on the bowler.

"Without doubt he's missing a few balls on the front foot," Hick said.

"When the bowler's able to bowl that full to any batsman you're not reversing the pressure on them and (it) gives the bowler a little more leeway.

"As a batter you want to be able to reverse pressure.

"There will be times when you have to sit tight, but I think he's certainly missing a few balls there that would help him get into his innings.

"We've had those discussions and will revisit them today and just see what he wants to do.

"He's been working at it, he started well in the Shield season, we've just got to see if there's a breakdown in what's happening in Shield cricket and what's happening out here."

He and S.Marsh are too suspect outside off stump.

Cam White would have played 100 tests in this side.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Probably 50 short. Aussies caved in against very inspired bowling. let's see if our boys can find the same level of passion.

50 short

200 is defendable on this pitch.

 

[spurs]

We’ll win this one

 

[gokangas]

50 short

200 is defendable on this pitch.

Hello - its us!

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Hello - its us!

Our bowling is our strength. If we were set 200 to win then I'd be worrying

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Haha. Tim Paine talking to Vijay after he just got Kholi out.

"I know he's your captain but you can't seriously like him as a bloke. You couldn't possibly like him."

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

Btw, our own Rick18 is pumping the content out on the 7cricket feed.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Nathan Lyon 15 wickets so far in the 1st 2 Tests, with a possible 6 to come.

How do you think he is travelling Roosurgence?

 

[Marstermind]

"I know he's your captain, but you can't seriously like him can you?"

Tim Paine does sledging they way it's meant to be.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Haha. Tim Paine talking to Vijay after he just got Kholi out.

"I know he's your captain but you can't seriously like him as a bloke. You couldn't possibly like him."

Brilliant sledge

Best part was the chuckle from Murali, had a bit of a "yeah, some truth in that" about it

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Ripping catch, Rahane got a lot of that ball

 

[gokangas]

Nicely placed. No excuses for not finishing this game off tomorrow. Come on Aussies.

 

[Waussie]

Nathan Lyon 15 wickets so far in the 1st 2 Tests, with a possible 6 to come.

How do you think he is travelling Roosurgence?

Magic, class act.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

The new look Aussies are on fire. Here's another nice piece of work by the newbie Harris.

 

[Gasometer]

Haha. Tim Paine talking to Vijay after he just got Kholi out.

"I know he's your captain but you can't seriously like him as a bloke. You couldn't possibly like him."

Almost D Kingesque