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[CrowinNT]

[QUOTE="arrowman, post: 56257502, member: 11372
thing is woo and nonsense, I will allow that some people will get somethingof it and good for them. If it's not compulsory and one size fits all, and if the cult camp thing has been slapped down then that's the main thing.

We're not going to get a straight pexplanation of the detail so maybe that'll have to do for now.[/QUOTE]

I tend to agree.
Though I think this is not a "case closed " by any means.
As supporters we have to continuously question what is going on when this season has reeked of incompetent practices.

CM is an absolute fraud in my mind.
He knows it. It's his attempt to enter a niche market. He created his business knowing the gullible can be easily be sold to. To "get the edge" over other clubs in a sports field and it is big business .
This Contract would not be minimal $
AFC has been fooled.

These retreat type camps have grown rapidly. I sight Ubud Bali as an examples
Ever since Eat Pray Love hit you can go to a host of retreats promising a human smorgasbord of "healings". They'd they are so expensive.
All thanks to Ketut Liyer I see so many like sheep wanting to find a Bali Healer.
No wonder with the $$ involved to be reaped it created so many snake oils up there. Human monetary greed

As in Aboriginal culture and Balinese Culture there are genuine Medical /Healing persons in their lands. They know who.
The rest are frauds.

 

[happy_knackers]

Which is why we were very careful not to announce it as truth, used the word alleged 20 times, and also made sure we balanced it with official club comment.

As always the information is intended to be taken for what it is and nothing more. How you deal with it and what you believe is entirely a matter for you.

We do feel entitled to refer to past information and assess its accuracy when considering whether to even use it or not. This also adds to the veracity of it, but never elevates it to the undisputed truth.

One thing I do notice with the limited information I do get - there is much more analysis of the source when the news is negative. Supporters are far more forgiving when the news is positive.

could i have link to positive stuff. could use a pick me upper.

 

[rezagun]

This amon woulfe guy is a freak. Wtf were we thinking..? Who allowed this bullshit to be part of the football program? They all need to be exiled.

 

[Vhaluus]

As in Aboriginal culture and Balinese Culture there are genuine Medicine Healing persons in their lands. They know who.
The rest are frauds.

Lol no.

You know what they call herbal medicine that actuslly works?

Medicine.

The recent is just expensive placebos.

 

[CrowinNT]

Lol no.

Lol no.

You know what they call herbal medicine that actuslly works?

Medicine.

The recent is just expensive placebos.

Auto correct. Medical/ Healing.

 

[Sanders]

Normally you engage an outside firm of consultants for a job with various break clauses etc which undoubtedly would have been triggered by now in normal circumstances

However an earlier announcement talks about the crows having exclusivity with CM, prob wanting to protect our competitive advantage from using these clowns, but that sort of thing involves different types of obligations

As he is a one man band (boom tish) any public repudiation would damage his business and him. Particularly if he is arguing he has done nothing wrong under his terms of engagement.

Confirming or allowing the perception we’ve dumped him might open us up to liquidated damages and other liability... so maybe we are maintaining appearances

Which is not the same as maintaining relations

On the other hand we might still believe this mumbo jumbo is awesome

 

[Vhaluus]

Normally you engage an outside firm of consultants for a job with various break clauses etc which undoubtedly would have been triggered by now in normal circumstances

However an earlier announcement talks about the crows having exclusivity with CM, prob wanting to protect our competitive advantage from using these clowns, but that sort of thing involves different types of obligations

As he is a one man band (boom tish) any public repudiation would damage his business and him. Particularly if he is arguing he has done nothing wrong under his terms of engagement.

Confirming or allowing the perception we’ve dumped him might open us up to liquidated damages and other liability... so maybe we are maintaining appearances

Which is not the same as maintaining relations

On the other hand we might still believe this mumbo jumbo is awesome

I'd much rather see the club call him out as a charlatan, admit they shouldn't have been duped and fight whatever legal battle is necessary as a consequence of that than continue to lie to its fans.

We were willing to cop huge fines in order to protect Trigg and the Board, so why won't we be willing to risk a large sum in damages for the sake of our players?

 

[CrowinNT]

I'd much rather see the club call him out as a charlatan, admit they shouldn't have been duped and fight whatever legal battle is necessary as a consequence of that than continue to lie to its fans.

We were willing to cop huge fines in order to protect Trigg and the Board, so why won't we be willing to risk a large sum in damages for the sake of our players?

Maybe have a read.
Even read between the lines of what has been posted.
Or raise a Go fund Me Mr V cause.
You are off the track.
Let us all see a copy of this CM Contract with your legal expertise
and we can decide then if we wish to contribute .

 

[Vhaluus]

Maybe have a read.
Even read between the lines of what has been posted.
Or raise a Go fund Me Mr V cause.
You are off the track.
Let us all see a copy of this CM Contract with your legal expertise
and we can decide then if we wish to contribute .

You all contributed to bailing out Triggy, you aren't willing to do the same to get our players out of this disgraceful position?

 

[CrowinNT]

Confirming or allowing the perception we’ve dumped him might open us up to liquidated damages and other liability... so maybe we are maintaining appearances

This is a very salient point.
I do not know about LD's in the field of the Contract we have engaged the CM group in. My major expertise was in Contract Admin of NPWC / MNW / Consultants
I've shared before on here.

I wonder what Insurance they had to provide Sanders?

In Contracts what would their Indemity Insurance say ?
Well more what the AFC asked for to be a pre requisite.

In trees what rate of the winds will birdies fall down?

I once lost a job for being too thorough.
No wonder this foolish club chose to ignore the basics

Disgrace

 

[Roovolution]

I'd much rather see the club call him out as a charlatan, admit they shouldn't have been duped and fight whatever legal battle is necessary as a consequence of that than continue to lie to its fans.

We were willing to cop huge fines in order to protect Trigg and the Board, so why won't we be willing to risk a large sum in damages for the sake of our players?

Easily the worst way to handle things. Makes the club look incompetent and CM look incompetent and potentially opens us up to a lawsuit. Better to quietly do things behind closed doors.

 

[CrowinNT]

You all contributed to bailing out Triggy, you aren't willing to do the same to get our players out of this disgraceful position?

Name where I bailed out Trigg
Why are you using " You All" instead of we or us. You don't belong here

 

[Vhaluus]

Name where I bailed out Trigg
Why are you using " You All" instead of we or us. You don't belong here

Luckily you don't get to chose where I belong.

I also helped bail out Trigg because I was a member at the time, now I'm not because the board that let him do what he did is still there, looks like I was right not to give them any more money to waste.

 

[Vhaluus]

Easily the worst way to handle things. Makes the club look incompetent and CM look incompetent and potentially opens us up to a lawsuit. Better to quietly do things behind closed doors.

The club already looks incompetent.

 

[CrowinNT]

Luckily you don't get to chose where I belong.

I also helped bail out Trigg because I was a member at the time, now I'm not because the board that let him do what he did is still there, looks like I was right not to give them any more money to waste.

Geez this answers all

 

[Roovolution]

The club already looks incompetent.

True but at least they haven’t opened themselves up to potential legal action.

 

[El Doederino]

True but at least they haven’t opened themselves up to potential legal action.

As if we wouldn’t have a decent counter claim

 

[hey shorty]

As if we wouldn’t have a decent counter claim

Would the players want all this out in the open though ??

 

[El Doederino]

Would the players want all this out in the open though ??

These things normally settle behind closed doors in any case

 

[ithrowcraze]

Amon Woulfe’s instagram has gone private

 

[Elite Crow]

Amon Woulfe’s instagram has gone private

He’s on the bus.

 

[GreyCrow]

He’s on the bus.

Cant be contacted?

 

[cm_perfect]

[QUOTE="arrowman, post: 56257502, member: 11372
thing is woo and nonsense, I will allow that some people will get somethingof it and good for them. If it's not compulsory and one size fits all, and if the cult camp thing has been slapped down then that's the main thing.

We're not going to get a straight pexplanation of the detail so maybe that'll have to do for now.

I tend to agree.
Though I think this is not a "case closed " by any means.
As supporters we have to continuously question what is going on when this season has reeked of incompetent practices.

CM is an absolute fraud in my mind.
He knows it. It's his attempt to enter a niche market. He created his business knowing the gullible can be easily be sold to. To "get the edge" over other clubs in a sports field and it is big business .
This Contract would not be minimal $
AFC has been fooled.

These retreat type camps have grown rapidly. I sight Ubud Bali as an examples
Ever since Eat Pray Love hit you can go to a host of retreats promising a human smorgasbord of "healings". They'd they are so expensive.
All thanks to Ketut Liyer I see so many like sheep wanting to find a Bali Healer.
No wonder with the $$ involved to be reaped it created so many snake oils up there. Human monetary greed

As in Aboriginal culture and Balinese Culture there are genuine Medical /Healing persons in their lands. They know who.
The rest are frauds.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you can’t fix stupid. May as well take money off them ..

 

[Roovolution]

Would the players want all this out in the open though ??

Probably wouldn’t want people knowing how soft they are.

 

[Roovolution]

As if we wouldn’t have a decent counter claim

Possibly. Hard to believe the camp was that traumatising. But but but they took away my phone for a day! Waaah waaaah.