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[Danger in Texas]

Is it right that ROB had 6 hitouts and LMac had over 30 in the intraclub?

3:50

 

[adelaidecrows]

Is it right that ROB had 6 hitouts and LMac had over 30 in the intraclub?

3:50

I dont agree that this rule change was necessary. The whole concept of AFL was any player can play anywhere. The rule was to ensure fairness at the ball up by allowing both ruckman to jump. Ok thats fair on principle but all they have done is gifted the ultra athletic jumper. I can seriously see clubs scouting A grade teams in amateur and country leagues to find jumpers they think they can manipulate to play this role, then they will just run on and off the bench.

 

[1970crow]

I dont agree that this rule change was necessary. The whole concept of AFL was any player can play anywhere. The rule was to ensure fairness at the ball up by allowing both ruckman to jump. Ok thats fair on principle but all they have done is gifted the ultra athletic jumper. I can seriously see clubs scouting A grade teams in amateur and country leagues to find jumpers they think they can manipulate to play this role, then they will just run on and off the bench.

30 to 6 would mean ROB has been beaten around the ground as well.

 

[adelaidecrows]

30 to 6 would mean ROB has been beaten around the ground as well.

True. By all reports Lachie Mac had a major pre season and probably earned his spot regardless of the new rules. I am not going to dismiss his selection. But there would be some clubs though that just get pummeled on this rule.

 

[FR0GGY]

Were possession stats taken, I saw Bicks say that Rob had the ground covered over McAndrew but the one follow up I saw by Rob he turned it straight over.

 

[SugarShane]

I dont agree that this rule change was necessary. The whole concept of AFL was any player can play anywhere. The rule was to ensure fairness at the ball up by allowing both ruckman to jump. Ok thats fair on principle but all they have done is gifted the ultra athletic jumper. I can seriously see clubs scouting A grade teams in amateur and country leagues to find jumpers they think they can manipulate to play this role, then they will just run on and off the bench.

You think teams will effectively play 1 short just to win the tap?

 

[FR0GGY]

You think teams will effectively play 1 short just to win the tap?

Isn’t that what we do with Rob?

 

[SugarShane]

Isn’t that what we do with Rob?

Touche.

 

[Mutineer]

Is it right that ROB had 6 hitouts and LMac had over 30 in the intraclub?

3:50

I think former top line Melbourne ruckman Jeff White's video the other day was easily the best demonstration of how the ruck battles will work out, already Darcy Cameron has done his homework and was easily negating the influence of the taller jumping rucks. At this stage we'll wait to see if ROB can work out a similar strategy that suits him. I'd certainly go with Jeff White over those two internet blokes at this point Jeff can see ways how rucks will likely contend with the new rules.

 

[FR0GGY]

I think former top line Melbourne ruckman Jeff White's video the other day was easily the best demonstration of how the ruck battles will work out, already Darcy Cameron has done his homework and was easily negating the influence of the taller jumping rucks. At this stage we'll wait to see if ROB can work out a similar strategy that suits him. I'd certainly go with Jeff White over those two internet blokes at this point Jeff can see ways how rucks will likely contend with the new rules.

What has Cameron done to negate this?

 

[Mutineer]

What has Cameron done to negate this?

Watch the video it's all explained by Jeff White in detail

 

[spenze]

I reckon you run through there jumping ruck once and poleaxe him into the ground, he'll think bloody hard about jumping a second time

 

[FR0GGY]

Be interesting to see our ruck coach scouting notes.

 

[1970crow]

My prediction is that McAndrew got a fo in the scratch, “and were really happy with what he showed us”, then it’s ROB in the trial and then he’s into round 1.

 

[spenze]

My prediction is that McAndrew got a fo in the scratch, “and were really happy with what he showed us”, then it’s ROB in the trial and then he’s into round 1.

McAndrew was just showing off with those taps, follow ups and contested marks, he has a lot of game to work on before he is even considered for R1

 

[ABAB]

My prediction is that McAndrew got a fo in the scratch, “and were really happy with what he showed us”, then it’s ROB in the trial and then he’s into round 1.

Old Nicks "Yes", new Nicks "No". We will know which Nicks we get round 1 and whether he will get sacked end of this year, it took him 4-5 weeks to finally drop Smith and Murphy for them to not return even though they should have been dropped a lot longer than those 4-5 weeks.

 

[Velvet George]

Will ROBs contract prove to be one of the stupidest contract extensions ever?

The thing is it was foreseeable, no hindsight needed.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

My prediction is that McAndrew got a fo in the scratch, “and were really happy with what he showed us”, then it’s ROB in the trial and then he’s into round 1.

Barring injury, McAndrew is playing round 1.

 

[Carmo]

I wonder if the reason why we haven't drafted a ruckman despite really needing some young blood is because we were waiting to see how these new ruck rules pan out and so what type of ruckman to go for??

 

[UcantCme]

True. By all reports Lachie Mac had a major pre season and probably earned his spot regardless of the new rules. I am not going to dismiss his selection. But there would be some clubs though that just get pummeled on this rule.

Stretch is now 25 and has served his apprenticeship- he is at that age where he can now complete with the more athletic rucks around the league

That’s why drafting a ruck can always be risky - it’s such a long timeline until they are afl ready

I was expecting him to jump well around the ground but was a little surprised by his contested marking

The other bonus - we won’t play like Rob and call for a handball when we are transitioning the football - he will play within his lanes

 

[UcantCme]

My prediction is that McAndrew got a fo in the scratch, “and were really happy with what he showed us”, then it’s ROB in the trial and then he’s into round 1.

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[UcantCme]

I wonder if the reason why we haven't drafted a ruckman despite really needing some young blood is because we were waiting to see how these new ruck rules pan out and so what type of ruckman to go for??

I’m never a fan of wasting a draft pick on a ruckman

Even when the likes of Josh Fraser were drafted as top picks the wait for a young ruck to be AFL ready is to long

I prefer the approach that we took with Jacobs and now Stretch - target to bring a ruck in from another club when they have spent 4-5 years in the system developing.

We went hard at the young GC ruck and also targeted Andrew’s

Never a fan using a top draft pick on a ruck

 

[Velvet George]

I wonder if the reason why we haven't drafted a ruckman despite really needing some young blood is because we were waiting to see how these new ruck rules pan out and so what type of ruckman to go for??

So we’ve been holding off for 10 years? lol

 

[SugarShane]

I’m never a fan of wasting a draft pick on a ruckman

Even when the likes of Josh Fraser were drafted as top picks the wait for a young ruck to be AFL ready is to long

I prefer the approach that we took with Jacobs and now Stretch - target to bring a ruck in from another club when they have spent 4-5 years in the system developing.

We went hard at the young GC ruck and also targeted Andrew’s

Never a fan using a top draft pick on a ruck

Why waste picks on a Grundy, English, Gawn type when you can just score a ROB for free. It's like I always say, why pay more for a rib eye steak when you can just get a Big Mac for $10.

 

[FR0GGY]

I wonder if the reason why we haven't drafted a ruckman despite really needing some young blood is because we were waiting to see how these new ruck rules pan out and so what type of ruckman to go for??

The rules were announced last year, we haven’t drafted one for years.