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Massive vote of confidence having 2MP not **** around testing the market and playing games that kid is a quality player, quality person and serious about his career
Word I got yesterday is that its pretty common knowledge at the club Gary is one more year and out, I don't think thats a bad thing and seems like the club have moved beyond him now and focusing on the future fabric players which is a big step
Having said that I think he is deserving of a great year of footy without the pressure of captaincy
 
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No. | Player | Origin | Years at Club | Status | Contracted To | Source
\ 1 | Pearce Hanley | IRE
(Mayo GAA)
| 1 Year
(2017–)
| Recruit
(3 Years)
| 2019 | [1]
\ 2 | Jarrad Grant | VIC
(Dandenong)
| 2 Years
(2016–)
| Recruit
(2 Years)
| 2017 | [2]
\ 3 | Matt Rosa | VIC
(North Ballarat)
| 2 Years
(2016–)
| Recruit
(3 Years)
| 2018 | [3]
\ 4 | Jack Martin | WA
(Claremont)
| 5 Years
(2013–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2017 | [4]
\ 5 | Jarrod Harbrow | QLD
(South Cairns)
| 7 Years
(2011–)
| 3 Year
Extension
| 2017 | [5]
\ 6 | Alex Sexton | QLD
(Redland)
| 6 Years
(2012–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2018 | [6]
\ 7 | Jesse Lonergan | TAS
(Launceston)
| 5 Years
(2013–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2017 | [7]
\ 8 | Brayden Fiorini | VIC
(Greensborough)
| 2 Years
(2016–)
| 1 Year
Extension
| 2018 | [8]
\ 9 | Gary Ablett Jr | VIC
(Geelong)
| 7 Years
(2011–)
| 3 Year
Extension
| 2018 | [9]
\ 10 | Kade Kolodjashnij | TAS
(Launceston)
| 4 Years
(2014–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2018 | [10]
\ 11 | Touk Miller | VIC
(Calder)
| 3 Years
(2015–)
| 1 Year
Extension
| 2017 | [11]
\ 12 | Sam Day | SA
(Sturt)
| 7 Years
(2011–)
| 3 Year
Extension
| 2019 | [12]
\ 13 | Callum Ah Chee | WA
(South Fremantle)
| 2 Years
(2016–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2019 | [13]
\ 14 | Mitch Hallahan | VIC
(Dandenong)
| 3 Years
(2015–)
| Recruit
(3 Years)
| 2017 | [14]
\ 15 | Daniel Currie | VIC
(Eltham) | 2 Years
(2016–)
| Recruit
(TBA)
| TBA |
\ 16 | Rory Thompson | QLD
(Southport)
| 9 Years
(2009–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2019 | [16]
\ 17 | Steven May | NT
(Southern Districts)
| 7 Years
(2011–)
| 3 Year
Extension
| 2017 | [17]
\ 18 | Trent McKenzie | VIC
(Altona)
| 8 Years
(2010–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2017 | [18]
\ 19 | Tom Lynch | VIC
(Dandenong)
| 7 Years
(2011–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2018 | [19]
\ 20 | Michael Barlow | VIC
(Shepparton)
| 1 Year
(2017–)
| Recruit
(2 Years)
| 2018 | [20]
\ 21 | Jack Leslie | VIC
(Gippsland)
| 4 Years
(2014–)
| 1 Year
Extension
| 2017 | [21]
\ 22 | Tom Nicholls | VIC
(Sandringham)
| 8 Years
(2010–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2018 | [22]
\ 23 | Sean Lemmens | SA
(Port Adelaide)
| 4 Years
(2014–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2018 | [23]
\ 24 | David Swallow | WA
(East Fremantle)
| 8 Years
(2010–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2019 | [24]
\ 25 | Jarryd Lyons | VIC
(Sandringham) | 1 Year
(2017–)
| Recruit
(TBA)
| TBA |
\ 26 | Matt Shaw | VIC
(Dandenong)
| 8 Years
(2010–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2017 | [26]
\ 27 | Ben Ainsworth | VIC
(Gippsland)
| 1 Year
(2017–)
| Draftee
Contract
| 2018 | [27]
\ 28 | Jarrod Witts | NSW
(Sydney University) | 1 Year
(2017–)
| Recruit
(TBA)
| TBA |
\ 29 | Jack Bowes | QLD
(Cairns)
| 1 Year
(2017–)
| Draftee
Contract
| 2018 | [29]
\ 30 | Peter Wright | VIC
(Calder)
| 3 Years
(2015–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2019 | [30]
\ 32 | Brandon Matera | WA
(South Fremantle)
| 8 Years
(2010–)
| 3 Year
Extension
| 2017 | [32]
\ 33 | Aaron Hall | TAS
(Hobart)
| 6 Years
(2012–)
| 3 Year
Extension
| 2018 | [33]
\ 34 | Mackenzie Willis | TAS
(Kingborough)
| 2 Years
(2016–)
| Draftee
Contract
| 2017 | [34]
\ 35 | Michael Rischitelli | VIC
(Keilor)
| 7 Years
(2011–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2017 | [35]
\ 36 | Josh Schoenfeld | WA
(Peel)
| 2 Years
(2016–)
| Draftee
Contract
| 2017 | [36]
\ 37 | Jack Scrimshaw | VIC
(Sandringham)
| 1 Year
(2017–)
| Draftee
Contract
| 2018 | [37]
\ 38 | Jesse Joyce | QLD
(Palm Beach)
| 2 Years
(2016–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2018 | [38]
\ 40 | Brad Scheer | QLD
(Palm Beach)
| 1 Year
(2017–)
| Draftee
Contract
| 2018 | [40]
\ 41 | Will Brodie | VIC
(Murray)
| 1 Year
(2017–)
| Draftee
Contract
| 2018 | [41]
\ 42 | Adam Saad | VIC
(Coburg)
| 3 Years
(2015–)
| 2 Year
Extension
| 2018 | [42]
 
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Senior List (40 Players)
No. | Player | Origin | Years at Club | Status | Contracted To | Source
\ 1 | Pearce Hanley | IRE (Mayo GAA) | 1 Year
(2017–) | Recruit (3 Years) | 2019 | [1] \ 2 | Jarrad Grant | VIC
(Dandenong) | 2 Years
(2016–) | Recruit (2 Years) | 2017 | [2] \ 3 | Matt Rosa | VIC
(North Ballarat) | 2 Years
(2016–) | Recruit (3 Years) | 2018 | [3] \ 4 | Jack Martin | WA
(Claremont) | 5 Years
(2013–) | 2 Year Extension | 2017 | [4] \ 5 | Jarrod Harbrow | QLD
(South Cairns) | 7 Years
(2011–) | 3 Year Extension | 2017 | [5] \ 6 | Alex Sexton | QLD
(Redland) | 6 Years
(2012–) | 2 Year Extension | 2018 | [6] \ 7 | Jesse Lonergan | TAS
(Launceston) | 5 Years
(2013–) | 2 Year Extension | 2017 | [7] \ 8 | Brayden Fiorini | VIC
(Greensborough) | 2 Years
(2016–) | 1 Year Extension | 2018 | [8] \ 9 | Gary Ablett Jr | VIC
(Geelong) | 7 Years
(2011–) | 3 Year Extension | 2018 | [9] \ 10 | Kade Kolodjashnij | TAS
(Launceston) | 4 Years
(2014–) | 2 Year Extension | 2018 | [10] \ 11 | Touk Miller | VIC
(Calder) | 3 Years
(2015–) | 1 Year Extension | 2017 | [11] \ 12 | Sam Day | SA
(Sturt) | 7 Years
(2011–) | 3 Year Extension | 2019 | [12] \ 13 | Callum Ah Chee | WA
(South Fremantle) | 2 Years
(2016–) | 2 Year Extension | 2019 | [13] \ 14 | Mitch Hallahan | VIC
(Dandenong) | 3 Years
(2015–) | Recruit (3 Years) | 2017 | [14] \ 15 | Daniel Currie | VIC
(Eltham) | 2 Years
(2016–) | Recruit (TBA) | TBA | \ 16 | Rory Thompson | QLD
(Southport) | 9 Years
(2009–) | 2 Year Extension | 2019 | [16] \ 17 | Steven May | NT
(Southern Districts) | 7 Years
(2011–) | 3 Year Extension | 2017 | [17] \ 18 | Trent McKenzie | VIC
(Altona) | 8 Years
(2010–) | 2 Year Extension | 2017 | [18] \ 19 | Tom Lynch | VIC
(Dandenong) | 7 Years
(2011–) | 2 Year Extension | 2018 | [19] \ 20 | Michael Barlow | VIC
(Shepparton) | 1 Year
(2017–) | Recruit (2 Years) | 2018 | [20] \ 21 | Jack Leslie | VIC
(Gippsland) | 4 Years
(2014–) | 1 Year Extension | 2017 | [21] \ 22 | Tom Nicholls | VIC
(Sandringham) | 8 Years
(2010–) | 2 Year Extension | 2018 | [22] \ 23 | Sean Lemmens | SA
(Port Adelaide) | 4 Years
(2014–) | 2 Year Extension | 2018 | [23] \ 24 | David Swallow | WA
(East Fremantle) | 8 Years
(2010–) | 2 Year Extension | 2019 | [24] \ 25 | Jarryd Lyons | VIC
(Sandringham) | 1 Year
(2017–) | Recruit (TBA) | TBA | \ 26 | Matt Shaw | VIC
(Dandenong) | 8 Years
(2010–) | 2 Year Extension | 2017 | [26] \ 27 | Ben Ainsworth | VIC
(Gippsland) | 1 Year
(2017–) | Draftee Contract | 2018 | [27] \ 28 | Jarrod Witts | NSW
(Sydney University) | 1 Year
(2017–) | Recruit (TBA) | TBA | \ 29 | Jack Bowes | QLD
(Cairns) | 1 Year
(2017–) | Draftee Contract | 2018 | [29] \ 30 | Peter Wright | VIC
(Calder) | 3 Years
(2015–) | 2 Year Extension | 2019 | [30] \ 32 | Brandon Matera | WA
(South Fremantle) | 8 Years
(2010–) | 3 Year Extension | 2017 | [32] \ 33 | Aaron Hall | TAS
(Hobart) | 6 Years
(2012–) | 3 Year Extension | 2018 | [33] \ 34 | Mackenzie Willis | TAS
(Kingborough) | 2 Years
(2016–) | Draftee Contract | 2017 | [34] \ 35 | Michael Rischitelli | VIC
(Keilor) | 7 Years
(2011–) | 2 Year Extension | 2017 | [35] \ 36 | Josh Schoenfeld | WA
(Peel) | 2 Years
(2016–) | Draftee Contract | 2017 | [36] \ 37 | Jack Scrimshaw | VIC
(Sandringham) | 1 Year
(2017–) | Draftee Contract | 2018 | [37] \ 38 | Jesse Joyce | QLD
(Palm Beach) | 2 Years
(2016–) | 2 Year Extension | 2018 | [38] \ 40 | Brad Scheer | QLD
(Palm Beach) | 1 Year
(2017–) | Draftee Contract | 2018 | [40] \ 41 | Will Brodie | VIC
(Murray) | 1 Year
(2017–) | Draftee Contract | 2018 | [41] \ 42 | Adam Saad | VIC
(Coburg) | 3 Years
(2015–) | 2 Year Extension | 2018 | [42]
I would be interested to see a breakdown of Titans players and their background so we could compare it to us. I think they would have a large amount of players from NSW like we have from Victoria. Any chance Matchu?
 

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Matera is a downhill skier. If we have a good year, he will too.

Downhill skiing would require too much effort for Matera. More like a tandem parachutist so he doesn't even have to pull the cord.

A trained monkey could run back to our goal square when the opposition turn it over and get the ball on his own on the goal line.

The modern game has passed him by.
 
I would be interested in who the outstanding players whose contracts expire in 2017.
There is only one, big surprise it's May o_O

Pay him what he is worth or risk losing 1 of the best defensive players in the league *shrugs*

I shouldn't have to mention his loyalty and influence.
 
I would be interested to see a breakdown of Titans players and their background so we could compare it to us. I think they would have a large amount of players from NSW like we have from Victoria. Any chance Matchu?
Player | Origin
\ Kurt Bernard | NZ
(Glenora)
\ Morgan Boyle | NSW
(Cobargo)

\ Nathan Davis | NSW
(Hinchinbrook)

\ Anthony Don | NSW
(Grafton)

\ Kane Elgey | QLD
(Tugun)

\ Jarryd Hayne | NSW
(Campbelltown)

\ Konrad Hurrell | NZ
(Auckland)
\ Ryan James | NSW
(Bilambil)

\ Karl Lawton | QLD
(Burleigh)

\ Chris McQueen | QLD
(Kingaroy)

\ Ben Nakubuwai | NSW
(Bidgee)

\ John Olive | NSW
(Kingsgrove)

\ Agnatius Paasi | NZ
(Mangere)
\ Nathan Peats | NSW
(La Perouse)

\ Nathaniel Peteru | NZ
(Glenora)
\ Eddy Pettybourne | NSW
(Mascot)

\ Pat Politoni | NSW
(Leichhardt)

\ Kevin Proctor | NZ
(Te Kuiti)
\ Leivaha Pulu | NZ
(Mount Albert)
\ Tyrone Roberts | NSW
(Newcastle)

\ Dan Sarginson | ENG
(Hertfordshire)

\ David Shillington | QLD
(Brisbane)

\ Ryan Simpkins | QLD
(Currumbin)

\ Zeb Taia | NSW
(Enfield)

\ Ashley Taylor | QLD
(St George)

\ Peterika Vaivai | NZ
(Blockhouse Bay)
\ Jarrod Wallace | QLD
(Runaway Bay)

\ William Zillman | QLD
(Rochedale)


Player Origin Breakdown
State | Total
\ New South Wales | 12/28 (43%)
\ Queensland | 8/28 (28%)
\ New Zealand | 7/28 (25%)
\ England | 1/28 (4%)

Some interesting examples of origin there but I've tried to stick to the area that a player spent the majority of their juniors. Similar numbers for the Titans when compared to the Suns if you consider how reliant each team is on New South Wales and Victoria respectively. The Titans have one extra Queenslander on their list so that's comparable as well. What's not comparable is the large number of Kiwis on the Titans' list and not having players from other parts of Australia like the Suns do. So the two lists are similar in some ways but very different in other ways.

Both teams have junior programs on the Coast and other parts of Queensland that probably should be producing more players for the Gold Coast but, for whatever reason, both clubs are heavily reliant on the larger states that are south of the Tweed. As the city continues to grow and the junior programs continue to flourish you will see a larger number of Queenslanders on those lists but they will likely be reliant on the southern states for a while yet.
 
Player | Origin
\ Kurt Bernard | NZ
(Glenora)
\ Morgan Boyle | NSW
(Cobargo)
\ Nathan Davis | NSW
(Hinchinbrook)
\ Anthony Don | NSW
(Grafton)
\ Kane Elgey | QLD
(Tugun)
\ Jarryd Hayne | NSW
(Campbelltown)
\ Konrad Hurrell | NZ
(Auckland)
\ Ryan James | NSW
(Bilambil)
\ Karl Lawton | QLD
(Burleigh)
\ Chris McQueen | QLD
(Kingaroy)
\ Ben Nakubuwai | NSW
(Bidgee)
\ John Olive | NSW
(Kingsgrove)
\ Agnatius Paasi | NZ
(Mangere)
\ Nathan Peats | NSW
(La Perouse)
\ Nathaniel Peteru | NZ
(Glenora)
\ Eddy Pettybourne | NSW
(Mascot)
\ Pat Politoni | NSW
(Leichhardt)
\ Kevin Proctor | NZ
(Te Kuiti)
\ Leivaha Pulu | NZ
(Mount Albert)
\ Tyrone Roberts | NSW
(Newcastle)
\ Dan Sarginson | ENG
(Hertfordshire)
\ David Shillington | QLD
(Brisbane)
\ Ryan Simpkins | QLD
(Currumbin)
\ Zeb Taia | NSW
(Enfield)
\ Ashley Taylor | QLD
(St George)
\ Peterika Vaivai | NZ
(Blockhouse Bay)
\ Jarrod Wallace | QLD
(Runaway Bay)
\ William Zillman | QLD
(Rochedale)

Player Origin Breakdown
State | Total
\ New South Wales | 12/28 (43%)
\ Queensland | 8/28 (28%)
\ New Zealand | 7/28 (25%)
\ England | 1/28 (4%)

Some interesting examples of origin there but I've tried to stick to the area that a player spent the majority of their juniors. Similar numbers for the Titans when compared to the Suns if you consider how reliant each team is on New South Wales and Victoria respectively. The Titans have one extra Queenslander on their list so that's comparable as well. What's not comparable is the large number of Kiwis on the Titans' list and not having players from other parts of Australia like the Suns do. So the two lists are similar in some ways but very different in other ways.

Both teams have junior programs on the Coast and other parts of Queensland that probably should be producing more players for the Gold Coast but, for whatever reason, both clubs are heavily reliant on the larger states that are south of the Tweed. As the city continues to grow and the junior programs continue to flourish you will see a larger number of Queenslanders on those lists but they will likely be reliant on the southern states for a while yet.
Cheers buddy. I expected that to be the case with NSW players. I have also noticed both teams have quite a few indigenous players and I found some pics from this year even though some of the guys in the Titans pic have moved on.

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Cheers buddy. I expected that to be the case with NSW players. I have also noticed both teams have quite a few indigenous players and I found some pics from this year even though some of the guys in the Titans pic have moved on.

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Interesting observation. Indigenous Australians are well represented on the Gold Coast through the two professional sports teams. Most states and territories in Australia have provided at least one Indigenous player to the Gold Coast. Not only that, there's a very good chance we'll see Ryan James appointed as the Titans' captain in the near future, which would mean both clubs have Indigenous captains.

I'm interested to see the kind of Indigenous talent that will come out of central and north Queensland as the Suns' academy continues to grow. The only player we've really seen so far was Rex Liddy but he retired early so that seems like a lost opportunity. I know Harbrow is from Cairns but he went through before the Suns' academy existed.
 
The SUNS have had a poor record with retaining indigenous players, compared with their non-indigenous counterparts. We have recently appointed Eddie Sansbury as Indigenous Liaison Officer. Hopefully he will help us retain the players we want to. Otherwise we might be reluctant to recruit as many in the future.
 

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The SUNS have had a poor record with retaining indigenous players, compared with their non-indigenous counterparts. We have recently appointed Eddie Sansbury as Indigenous Liaison Officer. Hopefully he will help us retain the players we want to. Otherwise we might be reluctant to recruit as many in the future.
That's fair. Daye, Krakouer and Liddy all leaving after one AFL season (two retiring) wasn't a good look. Two of those boys being Queenslanders makes it look even worse. You'll always have players like Liam Patrick that spend a few years on the list and aren't good enough to cement a spot in the long-term but then you see a guys like Bennell/Garlett and you wonder. You also occasionally find gems like Harbrow and I guess it all comes down to the recruiter's ability to read each individual's character. That goes for non-indigenous players too. Hopefully Sansbury can have a similar effect that Paul Vandenbergh has had at Port Adelaide and future indigenous recruits feel comfortable living and playing on the Gold Coast.

I would have thought the Suns are still a very good chance to pick up Brendon Ah Chee in next year's trade/draft period so that should help young Callum.
 
That's fair. Daye, Krakouer and Liddy all leaving after one AFL season (two retiring) wasn't a good look. Two of those boys being Queenslanders makes it look even worse. You'll always have players like Liam Patrick that spend a few years on the list and aren't good enough to cement a spot in the long-term but then you see a guys like Bennell/Garlett and you wonder. You also occasionally find gems like Harbrow and I guess it all comes down to the recruiter's ability to read each individual's character. That goes for non-indigenous players too. Hopefully Sansbury can have a similar effect that Paul Vandenbergh has had at Port Adelaide and future indigenous recruits feel comfortable living and playing on the Gold Coast.

I would have thought the Suns are still a very good chance to pick up Brendon Ah Chee in next year's trade/draft period so that should help young Callum.

Hopefully Brendon has a good year and if he does want to come to GC Suns next year Port can be fairly compensated with one of our 2nd rd picks and we can be sure he is deserved of a spot on our senior list
 
Hopefully Brendon has a good year and if he does want to come to GC Suns next year Port can be fairly compensated with one of our 2nd rd picks and we can be sure he is deserved of a spot on our senior list

I don't particularly see it happening.
Port got a good bunch of youngsters this draft period.
I'll take a stab and say GC will only draft 3-4 max this yr including Crossley.
The teams looking strong finally.
And full of midfielders or similar that go through there.
Won't be a hell of a lot of guys coming out I'd think.
Minus maybe lemmens shaw maybe matera Mckenzie etc.
Just don't see Brendon being in our needs going forward time will tell!
 
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I don't particularly see it happening.
Port got a good bunch of youngsters this draft period.
I'll take a stab and say GC will only draft 3-4 max this yr including Crossley.
The teams looking strong finally.
And full of midfielders or similar that go through there.
Won't be a hell of a lot of guys coming out I'd think.
Minus maybe lemmens shaw maybe matera Mckenzie etc.
Just don't see Brandon being in our needs going forward time will tell!

Still got 1 year of clean outs to come - it's looking better but there are still 5-6 clear delistings to make to undo Clayton's last brain fart to extend Shaw and Matera

Don't see the point in keeping Hallahan if he can't crack it for best 22 this year
Currie is superfluous to needs if Witts assumes #1 ruck and Crossley comes on board
Grant just isn't deserving of a spot on the list
Jack Leslie in a make or break year
McKenzie make or break year
Lemmens may conceivably not play a game in 2017 unless he vastly improves and could be traded or dropped to the rookie list for McPherson (Davis at 28 won't get a senior list spot)
Ablett also potentially leaving at end of year if rumors are fact

Potentially 5-9 changes to be made

In: Crossley, Dawson + 2 new draftees in 1st and 2nd rd (4 draftees) + McPherson upgrade

1-3 more spots for experienced players

Like I said previously Brendon Ah Chee doesn't request a trade to GC out of the blue unless he was on our radar in the first place so he is a chance to come next year. If Grant, Matera and Davis (due to age) on our list as high half forwards then there is a need for a bloke with a fair bit of talent
 
Still got 1 year of clean outs to come - it's looking better but there are still 5-6 clear delistings to make to undo Clayton's last brain fart to extend Shaw and Matera

Don't see the point in keeping Hallahan if he can't crack it for best 22 this year
Currie is superfluous to needs if Witts assumes #1 ruck and Crossley comes on board
Grant just isn't deserving of a spot on the list
Jack Leslie in a make or break year
McKenzie make or break year
Lemmens may conceivably not play a game in 2017 unless he vastly improves and could be traded or dropped to the rookie list for McPherson (Davis at 28 won't get a senior list spot)
Ablett also potentially leaving at end of year if rumors are fact

Potentially 5-9 changes to be made

In: Crossley, Dawson + 2 new draftees in 1st and 2nd rd (4 draftees) + McPherson upgrade

1-3 more spots for experienced players

Like I said previously Brendon Ah Chee doesn't request a trade to GC out of the blue unless he was on our radar in the first place so he is a chance to come next year. If Grant, Matera and Davis (due to age) on our list as high half forwards then there is a need for a bloke with a fair bit of talent
I don't reckon the decision to re-sign Matera and Shaw was a mistake as they only would have been replaced with more inexperience. With the injuries we've had i think even less experience would have been a nightmare however they are both on the chopping block need year. You look back at round 1 this year and Cameron was in the best 22 and Hallahan was really missed with a foot injury now one is delisted and the other could go next year. A year can change a lot of things.
 

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