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[diggler]

I heard Miller, in a speech earlier this year, say that the club thought Rogers and DK were better options than late picks in the draft.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Originally posted by diggler
I heard Miller, in a speech earlier this year, say that the club thought Rogers and DK were better options than late picks in the draft.

and whats your expert opinion on those late draft picks?

 

[ac_tiger33]

I reckon they should be allowed to play one more game for the tigers then retire. I'd hate to see them retire without playing a game. Because its been good watching them over the years.

 

[itsintheblood]

Originally posted by ac_tiger33
I reckon they should be allowed to play one more game for the tigers then retire. I'd hate to see them retire without playing a game. Because its been good watching them over the years.

We cant afford to do that right now unless we have a few injuries. We have some tough games coming up so we need to tread carefully. They'll get their opportunity at the end of the season when we have no hope of making the finals

 

[cairo tiger]

stupid thinking by the tigers and not prepared to make the tough call of asking these blokes to step aside.
to me it is clear that these guys when fit still should not be in the best 22!
so why keep them?
my only thought was that we had culled a few duds already and were left at the bottom of the barrell for numbers...as far as i am concerened as i have always said play the kids

 

[diggler]

and whats your expert opinion on those late draft picks?

Well considering they picked up someone liked Hartigan very late and he's played every game, I would of gone with the picks instead of the losers!

 

[Pirate]

Originally posted by oxx
LMAO

Wher u been Pirate ?

Did u go travelling?

A little astral travelling

 

[Cogs is a gun]

Originally posted by diggler
and whats your expert opinion on those late draft picks?

Well considering they picked up someone liked Hartigan very late and he's played every game, I would of gone with the picks instead of the losers!

What number pick did we get hartigan? How late in the draft?

 

[oxx]

Originally posted by Pirate
A little astral travelling

Good 4 u mate.
Welcome back.

 

[Crumden]

Originally posted by Cogs is a gun
What number pick did we get hartigan? How late in the draft?

6th round, pick 70

 

[peejay]

Originally posted by froars
Yep, good on Jakovich. He actually stated one of the reasons he was retiring was that so some up and coming kid could have a go. Full credit to him for thinking of the kids and the club.

this comment really shows that some times you really don't know what you are talking about - as stated earlier a retirement does not allow a rookie to come up.

Give Dunc the chance to play some footy for coburg and if form warrants play in the ones. he might surprise you. If he does not come up or if form is average then he gets cut - everyone at the club as all but said this, or don't the likes of yourself, diggler et al listen to the club.

We cut 12 players last season and more will come this year.

How long will it take for some of you to absorb this often explained explanation .

 

[froars]

He should have been cut last year - don't you understand that.

 

[sante]

We have to give Dunc one game this year to send him off with a win!!!

 

[peejay]

Originally posted by froars
He should have been cut last year - don't you understand that.

Do you understand anything about the rule pertaining to the maximum number of players that can be cut in a year.

If you do then who would you have not cut from last year to flick Dunc?

 

[froars]

I would have kept anyone who would have got onto the field this year. That is my point - he is not fit. He hasn't been fit for 2 years (all bar a couple of games which are suspiciously doubtful he was even fit then).

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

to all who are saying we should have got rid of dunc and rogers last year.well its the very same reason why spud will stay on as coach until the end of the year.CONTRACTS.


cheers!

 

[1980]

Anyone screaming that DK and Rogers should have been axed last year needs to also nominate who should have been brought up from the rookie list.

Most ppl say that Moore and Foley are more likely for next season, not this one. And I havent seen anyone else that deserves a senior call before these 2.

 

[Otto's ladder]

Originally posted by tiger of old
to all who are saying we should have got rid of dunc and rogers last year.well its the very same reason why spud will stay on as coach until the end of the year.CONTRACTS.


cheers!

Exactly. I heard somewhere (probably on one of the threads in hear) that Rogers was asked to gracefully step down at the end of last year and declined. And I don't blame him, why give up a cushy pay-packet to kick a bit of leather around. Won't have the same power when the contract is up.

Also don't mind the idea of giving a player a send off match, as long as they warrant their spot in the team. Neither Dunc nor Rogers would fit in the side at the moment, if ever again. Neither would keep up with the current pace of the game. There would need to be injuries to quite a few to fit them in now. Would even rather see Pettifer given another chance before these old timers, at least he MAY provide some future, (not holding out much hope there though).

 

[WilliamPowell]

Originally posted by peejay
this comment really shows that some times you really don't know what you are talking about - as stated earlier a retirement does not allow a rookie to come up.

Have to disagree with you here peejay.

We are one short on our list now - so we could promote a rookie at anytime.

If we are not looking at promoting because of TPP pressures then a player retiring would free up TPP space because I don't believe we have to pay out the contract - thus enabling us to pronmote a rookie.

Regarding the Jakovich comment about his retirement creating the opportunity of giving a kid a go. He listed young blokes currently on the Eagles list that may not be getting a game because he was being selected. His own opinion was that he may have getting games when his form was not what he believed it needed to be to keep getting picked and therefore holding back a younger bloke from getting a chance.

 

[froars]

to all who are saying we should have got rid of dunc and rogers last year.well its the very same reason why spud will stay on as coach until the end of the year.CONTRACTS.

I've read reports from Diggler saying Dunc offered to retire, but as Miller said at the Playerlink address (which i was there at but too busy talking - otherwise i would have heard it too lol) they thought Dunc was better than late draft picks.

I just luv the reasoning of our club.

And PJ, i don't know everything about how the system works - but thank god you're here to fill me in. You're just full of it - great info that is.

 

[Darth_Tiger]

i am just greatful jakovich decided not to retire 2 weeks later than he did.

 

[diggler]

Its funny the things they mention at playerslink.
Hutchison admitted on saturday, that Telstra dome did not suit their style, due to poor skills and the turnovers hurt on a small ground!!!
He said they were glad to be back at the G.
Why do they want to plays so many games at Telstra Tomb?

 

[WilliamPowell]

Originally posted by diggler
Its funny the things they mention at playerslink.
Hutchison admitted on saturday, that Telstra dome did not suit their style, due to poor skills and the turnovers hurt on a small ground!!!
He said they were glad to be back at the G.
Why do they want to plays so many games at Telstra Tomb?

Yeah when I heard that one Diggler - I had a chuckle.

But I think there maybe about 400,000+ reason why we play at the Tomb

 

[Crumden]

Originally posted by WilliamPowell
We are one short on our list now - so we could promote a rookie at anytime.

If we are not looking at promoting because of TPP pressures then a player retiring would free up TPP space because I don't believe we have to pay out the contract - thus enabling us to pronmote a rookie.

I think you're wrong on both counts WP. To promote a rookie at anytime, a club must have a full senior list plus one or two empty spots on the veterans list. We are one short on our senior list and have a full veterans list. For example, Melbourne had 38 on their senior list but only one on their veterans list, so had one spot to promote a rookie. We have only 37 on our senior list. If Dunc retired, it would open a spot on our vets list for a rookie, but we still wouldn't meet the requirement of having a full senior list (and can't at this stage).

On the TPP, it doesn't matter whether you actually pay out the contract or not. The contracted amount is still included in the TPP.

Bottom line is that we can only promote a rookie if we have a long term injury (8 weeks or more). In that case, the rookies salary isn't counted in the TPP.

 

[WilliamPowell]

Originally posted by Crumden
I think you're wrong on both counts WP. To promote a rookie at anytime, a club must have a full senior list plus one or two empty spots on the veterans list. We are one short on our senior list and have a full veterans list. For example, Melbourne had 38 on their senior list but only one on their veterans list, so had one spot to promote a rookie. We have only 37 on our senior list. If Dunc retired, it would open a spot on our vets list for a rookie, but we still wouldn't meet the requirement of having a full senior list (and can't at this stage).

Thanks Crumden - I will stand corrected on the TPP side of things because I was not totally sure on that one.

On being able to promote a rookie because we are one short on our list now. I actually asked this question of one of the Gregs last season when Gaspar was out injured. My question was - were going to put Gaspar on the long term injury list and promote a rookie?

Which ever Greg it was told me that we were not going to put Gaspar on the long term injury list and because we were already short on our list we had the ability to promote a rookie at anytime.

That's how I came to the conclusion on my original comment. Again if I have misinterepted what I was told - OOPS - I stand corrected.