Oppo Camp Dangerfield's Gone (Zero tolerance to trolling) - READ THREAD LINKED IN OP BEFORE POSTING

[Pugsley]

Roo just said it will all come out in due course. My $ on his missus is prego

Mardi Hardwood ?

 

[Archie87]

At the end of the day, a suitable trade will be worked out IMO. It's easy being a keyboard warrior and acting tough on here as a Geelong poster and saying they'll trade away their picks before offering a deal to Dangerfield but a different kettle of fish in reality for the actual recruiters.

It is a well known fact that AFL clubs try not to screw each other over TOO much at the trade table, as it's likely that it might come back to bite them the other way down the track. No, we won't get market value for Paddy (which would be pick 1) but I'm sure an outcome will be reached where we don't get totally reamed.

 

[scalesofjustice]

Roo just said it will all come out in due course. My $ on his missus is prego

Thats not an extraordinary reason. I am sure they have hospitals in Adelaide.

 

[douglyzia]

Open Mike 2025:

"you know I have to ask Patrick, do you regret leaving the Crows?"

"Patrick, you've been a great player for Carlton, even though they didn't make the finals during the six years you were there. Are you disappointed that Geelong were not able to offer Adelaide adequate compensation for you?"

 

[Pugsley]

Thats not an extraordinary reason. I am sure they have hospitals in Adelaide.

In due course we will.

 

[Red mist]

I think we will settle for 2 first rounders after matching. This yrs and next years. Think the AFL is all over it and brought in the futures trading for a circumstance just like this.

 

[scalesofjustice]

In due course we will.

lol

 

[feenix67]

"Patrick, you've been a great player for Carlton, even though they didn't make the finals during the six years you were there. Are you disappointed that Geelong were not able to offer Adelaide adequate compensation for you?"

Sheehan still on TV in 2025 is the most disturbing part of that picture

 

[Pugsley]

Sheehan still on TV in 2025 is the most disturbing part of that picture

That wrinkly fossil look. Blergh.

 

[Vooligan]

Are you saying that everything that roo says during his comedy based radio show is fact and his true position

In regards to this, yes Roo's breakfast show is a comedy show somewhat - lighthearted humour. However, the interview you/we are referring to with Mark Ricciuto hinting at the fact that we WILL match wasn't on his breakfast show at all. He came in for an interview on the Sport Show (which is a lot more serious that the breakfast show) to do his interview. If you think the Crows won't match, you're

 

[rezagun]

Thats not an extraordinary reason. I am sure they have hospitals in Adelaide.

Its extroadinary for michaelangelo rucci because hes never been able to find a vagina

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

I think we will settle for 2 first rounders after matching. This yrs and next years. Think the AFL is all over it and brought in the futures trading for a circumstance just like this.

I think this is how it will play out.

Contracted Geelong players won't be involved in the trade.

 

[Captain Furious]

Just remember Dangerfield is a Restricted Free Agent…you will be the ones lobbying to change the rules unless you do a decent trade!

Once we match, free agency is inconsequential to the argument.

Yes. This seems to be the point a lot of people, including the Vic media, are missing. He is a restricted free agent, which is in place to protect clubs from losing the elite players they want to keep, or getting very little for them. Adelaide are absolutely within their rights to match the deal and trade, that's what it's there for.

Interesting language yesterday that he wants a move back to Victoria, not just to Geelong. Is that him saying 'if you make this hard for Geelong, I'll happily go into the PSD and go to another Melbourne club'? Because the last thing Paddy wants is to go to a Geelong (who IMO have a very average list and are in decline) without 2 years of 1st round draft picks. Pretty much goodbye any hopes of a flag considering where they're at now.

Remember Carlton effectively screwed themselves in the Judd deal. Sure Judd was a champion for them but I don't think there's any doubt West Coast came well out on top in that one. Geelong won't destroy themselves to get Danger, as much as they want him. Their proposed $800K is a sign of that.

And if he did go into the PSD with that number or even $1M, yes he would be picked up. For sure. Even if he and Connors told every club no (which they officially can't) you think arrogant clubs like Carlton or especially Collingwood wouldn't back themselves in take him and turn him around. Absolutely. The reason it hasn't happened before was guys priced themselves out with $ and years.

But to be honest, I think Geelong has always been a pretty fair club to deal with. If we go in there asking for the world, it could end badly and we lose a prized asset for nothing for the second time in a few years. Let's be fair about it and use what we get to build a stronger list.

 

[FR0GGY]

If we can get two first rounders, take it and run.
At the end of the day if you turn one first rounder into two first rounders whilst getting 6 years service with 4 of them outstanding. That's pretty good.

 

[rezagun]

Its ok afc im here to **** shit up

 

[big78sam]

I think this is how it will play out.

Contracted Geelong players won't be involved in the trade.

I think that will be about it. We might get steak knives thrown in. A pick upgrade or fringe player gfc are happy to lose. But if I was a betting man I'd go with the 2 picks.

 

[Red mist]

I think this is how it will play out.

Contracted Geelong players won't be involved in the trade.

Yeah, then it is getting closer to true market value which we don't have a chance of getting from a matching standpoint. It's the middleish ground which we don't necessarily like value wise but may have to abide or PSD which both teams would want to avoid. Fair bit of work been done on this already IMO.

 

[DoubleBlue2]

Does anyone else get the vibe there are more to this 'due to personal circumstances' than just Danger wanting to get home?

The use of the word extraordinary in that sentence throws me - I saw Rucci meet with Chapman yesterday shortly after the Crows made the announcement.

The players have seemingly been quite forgiving.

I just wonder whether, without speculating (and I have no idea) but something along the lines of his Mrs is pregnant, family sickness (hopefully not), etc ... something along those lines that is drawing him home.

Yes, they will feed us some bullshit to make everyone feel better, yet the fact remains he had decided to leave last year. That's why he wouldn't discuss a contract. The fact also remains that he is leaving as soon as he becomes an RFA.

THESE TWO THINGS ARE NOT CO-INCIDENTAL OR DUE TO ANY SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

 

[Tex Support]

If we can get two first rounders, take it and run.

And then display them for all to see at the trade table...

 

[jenny61_99]

How would Geelong be shafting Adelaide? Geelong wouldn't be breaking any rules and Geelong is well within its rights to maximise its takings in every deal. The FA system is a complete joke, as is the way that compensation is afforded. But that's not Geelong's problem and it's not incumbent upon Geelong to bridge the gap of unfairness in a system which it didn't implement and quite possibly doesn't even condone. But what's a club to do? All that Geelong need concern itself with is what's best for Geelong. Lobby to AFL house if you don't like your comp.

And on a side note, by matching Adelaide could just as easily be shafting Geelong. With demands of multiple first round picks PLUS asking for a required player who is contracted, a rigid and inflexible demand will result in Geelong walking away. Just because Geelong has committed to Danger doesn't mean it has committed to being shafted by Adelaide in a trade, either.

As much as you all would like to bang on about how Adelaide has the upper hand, I'm at pains to point out that that it really isn't the case.

You are certainly being painful.

Matching will be done. Ball is now in geelongs court.

 

[DJ75]

I think we will settle for 2 first rounders after matching. This yrs and next years. Think the AFL is all over it and brought in the futures trading for a circumstance just like this.

For a circumstance exactly like this one...as in this exact one...

 

[Pugsley]

You are certainly being painful.

Matching will be done. Ball is now in geelongs court.

He's in pain [emoji15]

 

[DJ75]

In regards to this, yes Roo's breakfast show is a comedy show somewhat - lighthearted humour. However, the interview you/we are referring to with Mark Ricciuto hinting at the fact that we WILL match wasn't on his breakfast show at all. He came in for an interview on the Sport Show (which is a lot more serious that the breakfast show) to do his interview. If you think the Crows won't match, you're

God I love that movie!

 

[hippyhippy]

2 first round picks.. 2 picks around 9 and 10... nah .. need a bit more.

 

[Freddy Bassett]

Crows supporters who are feeling down, read this!!!

When Matt Rendell had that pick 10 and called out Dangerfield think how much that pick will get us...

P.Dangerfield for 6 years with 4 elite seasons on and off the field.
With his trade we will net at least 2 first round draft picks...
With our recent history of Danger, Davis, Talia, Smith, Lever it is fair to say we will have another 2 elite players on our list... 200 game players..
Yes Geelong will get another 4 elite seasons out of Danger, but so did we, and it will cost Geelong 2 first round picks and 800k per year.
And lets not forget we will have a spare million dollars to spend on Dangers replacement through Free Agency..

Yes, not seeing Danger bust through packs, sprint away from whoever is chasing and mongrel punt the ball to the opposition will hurt.
... But we will be well compensated. And have plenty of coin to spend. Get those draft picks used wisely and we are way in front.
Spend the spare million wisely and we are a top 4 side for 5 years... Sustained success