Oppo Camp Dangerfield's Gone (Zero tolerance to trolling) - READ THREAD LINKED IN OP BEFORE POSTING

[CutAboveTheRest]

I would take their 2015 and 16 first round picks. Except that if they get him, the 2016 pick could be #18

Won't win a flag with him

 

[TheLeftFist8]

This years and next years is way unders... need a decent player on top. Make them make it happen. They will lose so much face if it doesnt. Id be pissed if the afc just took 2 crappy picks.

Spot on! Look at the AFL weighting on draft picks…pick 9 is nowhere near as valuable as the pick 3 that the Eagles got in the Judd deal! And we aren't getting a Kennedy either at this stage.

If we only get 2 first rounders they should both be in single figures.

 

[SydCrow]

Doubtful 18 but yes Geelong quite possibly could have 1 last spike with this list + Danger before dropping down. So could be around pick 15.

9 + 15 for the 2nd best player in the competition…pathetic.

what did Hawthorn get for Buddy - #18?

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Any clause in a contract that is contrary to the laws of the land is not binding. So just because the AFLPA has signed the agreement it doesn't mean the ALFPA is legally bound by it.

What law does it not comply with?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Remember what? It's been happening to us for years. We always seem to be on the giving end.

You got Betts!

That's completely different

Why?

...shut up. That's why.

 

[Don Muraco]

what did Hawthorn get for Buddy - #18?

They couldn't match Sydcolas offer.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Fairness would be the 2 1st and a player worth a 2nd round pick.

We should start our claim with 2 1st and Motlop, and then we either drop a 1st or Motlop for Murdoch.

There are plenty of clubs sniffing around who I'm sure could offer Danger a lot more $$$ than Geelong which will easily pay for his fuel costs travelling in to Melbourne, or for rent at a cushy townhouse near training so he doesn't have to commute every day.

Unfortunately if Danger went this way fearing the Crows and Cats are at an impasse then he could accept RFA offer from another club which we can't match. As long as we are confident we can match any deals and Danger def won't stay here then we are in the box seat. Honestly we should get a decent steak knife on top of the 1sts.

Would be happy if fairness matched reality and think we need to go for fairness but don't think fairness will eventuate

 

[mistylake]

Being screwed? Being screwed?

How about this? We lost the best player of the last twenty years (Gary Ablett jnr) by an AFL plot to strengthen GC by allowing GCS such a big salary cap that, to match, we would have to pay our whole cap just on Ablett alone.

At least the AFL haven't directly intervened in making sure that a player of yours ends up at a club by engineering a situation where two new clubs can price anyone out of a bidding war.

No argument here. The AFL screwed us to with Bock and Davis. Then GCS and GWS grabbing every decent kid for 3/4 years in a row all while a bunch of other best 22 elope as well. Sydney with there Cola. Bloody annoying as hell.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Would be happy if fairness matched reality and think we need to go for fairness but don't think fairness will eventuate

I understand and agree unfortunately.

Hopefully we push hard for the upper end of fairness first before settling for dregs.

 

[mistylake]

Ok didnt Tony Abbott try this on with those ungrateful indonesians and their Tsunami relief?

Those pesky Indonesians owe us one!!

I believe they replied with GFYS or something to that effect. Pretty similar.

 

[hippyhippy]

what did Hawthorn get for Buddy - #18?

Hawks didnt want to match.. im sure afc will match anything geelong dish up.. especially since they dont want to pay danger more than duckwood.

 

[subaru]

Being screwed? Being screwed?

How about this? We lost the best player of the last twenty years (Gary Ablett jnr) by an AFL plot to strengthen GC by allowing GCS such a big salary cap that, to match, we would have to pay our whole cap just on Ablett alone.

At least the AFL haven't directly intervened in making sure that a player of yours ends up at a club by engineering a situation where two new clubs can price anyone out of a bidding war.

I never said " being screwed"!
Seriously - Settle down ! I merely pointed out we have lost several good to very good players by being Mr Nice Guy to assist players move to clubs of their choice

In this instance - and arguably the best if these players - I don't think the club feel quite as genial about the whole thing

 

[jenny61_99]

This years and next years is way unders... need a decent player on top. Make them make it happen. They will lose so much face if it doesnt. Id be pissed if the afc just took 2 crappy picks.

We are not going to get his "worth" in any deal that occurs. here's hoping we get something that is at least hopeful of achieving his worth over time.

 

[DickDunn]

Like someone who has finally realised they have been cuckolded, the humiliation burns deeply.

I refuse to believe Graham Cornes isn't speaking from experience here. Glorious melt.

Should point out I feel bad for you blokes and hope you get a good deal but...come on.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...and-its-personal/story-fnia3m9p-1227543952809

 

[jenny61_99]

You got Betts!

That's completely different

Why?

...shut up. That's why.

He clearly wasn't a required player by Carlton. It is a completely different scenario. And you shut up!

 

[Sanders]

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au...-to-geelong-cats/story-fnjuhrxq-1227191254377

Asked if the Cats would move outside their pay structure to accommodate a game-breaker like Dangerfield, Selwood said: “I wouldn’t think they would do that.”

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-05/motlop-resigns-with-geelong

"It was really just about making sure that he realised his value, but at the same time we maintained a pay structure as we have done."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...415091718?sv=588b1597de4ac46185cdfd86206eecbf

Senior Cats players have demanded the club’s bid for Dangerfield must fit in its “premiership” pay scale, which could not put the superstar Crow’s salary above Geelong’s senior leaders.

Midfielder Mitch Duncan said on Triple M “I don’t think they would throw that (payment) structure out the window”.

“I think the club is going to come first.”

Im thinking the amount of people saying it out of Geelong surely they arent all lying are they?

I'm sorry who is Joel selwood to say what the admin will do?

He's just a player

 

[Don Muraco]

I'm sorry who is Joel selwood to say what the admin will do?

He's just a player

A good ducking player.

 

[Sanders]

With the risk to the player being if they get a career ending injury towards the back end of the second year that they don't have a secured contract to support them for the remaining years. So presumably that provides a bit of weight on not going 'too short' on the original contract.

Exactly when there is an element of risk involved they are separate deals

Both Luke ball and Tippett have done just this with no issue from the AFL

 

[Allefgib]

What I'm saying is that enforceability is irrelevant.

It isn't only illegal if it is enforceable.

If it's not enforceable.. what exists that is illegal?

 

[jenny61_99]

I refuse to believe Graham Cornes isn't speaking from experience here. Glorious melt.

Should point out I feel bad for you blokes and hope you get a good deal but...come on.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...and-its-personal/story-fnia3m9p-1227543952809

Has anyone got a direct link to this please - normal actions aren't getting me around paywall.

 

[marty36]

I'm sorry who is Joel selwood to say what the admin will do?

He's just a player

Illl just list the ones I posted and their roles at the club

Steve Hocking (Football Manager)
Chris Scott (senior Coach)
Joel Selwood (club Captain)
Mitch Duncan (player)

Then Senior listed players

Not sure but that is a fair indication of what the major individuals think of the pay scale at Geelong considering the coach needs to keep his players happy, the football manager negotiates the contracts and the players get paid the $$.

To beleive that these people are irreleavnt, isnt even worth discussing

 

[Sanders]

You should let the Courts know they've been applying the test wrong then!

I think you are confusing the overriding public policy of a person having the right to trade freely, and the second limb of the reasonableness test which very much looks to the injury which may be suffered by the public and their interests in the particular circumstances.

Not sure what coca cola has to do anything.

Feel free to show me how the courts have been interpreting it the same way you have.

Which if you could I suspect you already would have

 

[Sanders]

Illl just list the ones I posted and their roles at the club

Steve Hocking (Football Manager)
Chris Scott (senior Coach)
Joel Selwood (club Captain)
Mitch Duncan (player)

Then Senior listed players

Not sure but that is a fair indication of what the major individuals think of the pay scale at Geelong considering the coach needs to keep his players happy, the football manager negotiates the contracts and the players get paid the $$.

To beleive that these people are irreleavnt, isnt even worth discussing

That's a big fat zero on the people involved in the contract side of things

 

[Niximus]

If it's not enforceable.. what exists that is illegal?

If it's illegal, who is able to enforce it?

 

[Jack McKraken]

Lets not do this again.
We got ablett for about pick 40.

No one had him as a top 20 player.
The advantage we got was hawkins as fs. As that landed us selwood.

To me this is the wrong focus. It's not what you paid, it's more the fact no one had any chance to take him, whether at 1,5, 20, etc