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For me this similarities between the Cleveland/Lebron come home to the Geelong/Patty situation were erie.

Probably not a great analogy since injuries to Love/Irving was the only thing that stopped Cleveland from winning the championship last season, and the Cavs are a short priced favourite next season!
 

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It's rare ANYONE gets 2 firsts in a trade.

Only a few weeks ago, we were getting reamed and had to take the compo. Our admin and stood up and called that idea garbage.

Two firsts is par for me. I'd be okay with that, if it happens early in trade week. More - fantastic. Less - questions would need to be asked.
 
It's rare ANYONE gets 2 firsts in a trade.

Only a few weeks ago, we were getting reamed and had to take the compo. Our admin and stood up and called that idea garbage.

Two firsts is par for me. I'd be okay with that, if it happens early in trade week. More - fantastic. Less - questions would need to be asked.
2 firsts and Murdoch is a reasonable outcome.
 
Murdoch would have to improve a lot to be in front of Hendo. Hendo's form this year was miles in front of Murdoch.
Miles in front is a stretch. He has more weapons than Hendo in that he is a left footer (kicks it further as well), has cleaner disposal, tackles well and has elite leg speed which Hendo used to have, but doesn't show that much anymore. I'd feel more comfortable with the ball in Murdoch's hand and more confident he would stick an important tackle so that's enough for me to want him.
 
It's rare ANYONE gets 2 firsts in a trade.

Only a few weeks ago, we were getting reamed and had to take the compo. Our admin and stood up and called that idea garbage.

Two firsts is par for me. I'd be okay with that, if it happens early in trade week. More - fantastic. Less - questions would need to be asked.
Not sure that it is rare. From memory Judd was picks 3, 20 and Kennedy who was pick 4 in his draft. Hawks traded 2 first round picks for Burgoyne from memory. Those are two instances that instantly come to mind. The first one is technically two first rounders but getting a player that was top 5 draft pick is practically the same thing.

While I agree that 2 first rounders is likely result, the likelihood that neither will be a top 5 pick is high and diminishes the value of 2 first rounders.
 
Murdoch would have to improve a lot to be in front of Hendo. Hendo's form this year was miles in front of Murdoch.

I thought Hendo was patchy and really inconsistent

His good is very good however his bad is also very bad

Hendo IMO needs to close the gap between his best and worst

Murdock IMO has a huge ceiling
 

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Miles in front is a stretch. He has more weapons than Hendo in that he is a left footer (kicks it further as well), has cleaner disposal, tackles well and has elite leg speed which Hendo used to have, but doesn't show that much anymore. I'd feel more comfortable with the ball in Murdoch's hand and more confident he would stick an important tackle so that's enough for me to want him.
Im happy to take him just disagree he is in front of Hendo.
 
Not sure that it is rare. From memory Judd was picks 3, 20 and Kennedy who was pick 4 in his draft. Hawks traded 2 first round picks for Burgoyne from memory. Those are two instances that instantly come to mind. The first one is technically two first rounders but getting a player that was top 5 draft pick is practically the same thing.

While I agree that 2 first rounders is likely result, the likelihood that neither will be a top 5 pick is high and diminishes the value of 2 first rounders.

Unlikely to take them to the draft?
 
Probably not a great analogy since injuries to Love/Irving was the only thing that stopped Cleveland from winning the championship last season, and the Cavs are a short priced favourite next season!
Yeah, you are right, the cats wont have a chance at all.
 
Geelong have appointed Simon Llyod as DOC

Confidence in Scott declining?

Gifted a premiership with a squad that had already won two, and had some great players gifted through father son and the like.
 
Murdoch would have to improve a lot to be in front of Hendo. Hendo's form this year was miles in front of Murdoch.
We are seriously misusing Hendo at the AFC, he should be playing on the wing to use his outside speed and booming kick into the forward line....he's essentially an attacking player and we seem hell bent on trying to make him a defender.
 
We are seriously misusing Hendo at the AFC, he should be playing on the wing to use his outside speed and booming kick into the forward line....he's essentially an attacking player and we seem hell bent on trying to make him a defender.
I agree but he still have to improve his physicality dramatically. He's bordering on embarrassing out there and with guys like Hendo, Mackay, Atkins not defending anything on the outside and a couple of big name one way runners on the inside it's little wonder we get cut up so easily.
 

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We are seriously misusing Hendo at the AFC, he should be playing on the wing to use his outside speed and booming kick into the forward line....he's essentially an attacking player and we seem hell bent on trying to make him a defender.
Missing Jaensch - we had Smith and that was plan a, b and c to run it out of defence late in the season. Get MJ back or Hampton comes on and we can move Hendo permanently upfield. Probably why we are nibbling at Seedsman as well.
 
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Miles in front is a stretch. He has more weapons than Hendo in that he is a left footer (kicks it further as well), has cleaner disposal, tackles well and has elite leg speed which Hendo used to have, but doesn't show that much anymore. I'd feel more comfortable with the ball in Murdoch's hand and more confident he would stick an important tackle so that's enough for me to want him.
The reason Hendo doesn't show that elite speed is he's to busy guarding space or defending...something he's not very good at....play him on the wing where he can use his major weapons, speed and booming kick. Also he has been playing with a crook back most of the year, get that right and that speed and kick will return.
 
Geelong have appointed Simon Llyod as DOC

Confidence in Scott declining?
The bloke has been a senior coach for 5 years and has coached a premiership. This situation is very odd. I think I get why hes donating so much time to media roles at the moment. Dont reckon hes going to last in this coaching gig
 
Not necessarily! Just saying that if you are getting Danger, you would at least have to give one of those as a top 5 pick. Wasn't pick 5 traded for Beams last year along with another pick? I would have thought Danger would be worth more.

From memory was Beams still under contract?

This would have pushed up the trade price
 

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