Vic Daniel Andrews and the Statue of Limitations

[Gralin]

You’re a moderator Gralin. Moderate all posts. Not just the ones you dislike. This below, is clearly trolling also. But yet they get a free pass.

oh so you do have an issue

see its not hard

did you report that post that you took issue with?

 

[adogsfan5]

oh so you do have an issue

see its not hard

did you report that post that you took issue with?

Nope still no issue. But I’ll happily call out hypocrisy when I see it.

 

[Gralin]

Nope still no issue. But I’ll happily call out hypocrisy when I see it.

well if you're not going to report a post but you are going to complain publicly about moderation of that post I really can't see the point of continuing the conversation beyond reminding you that if you have an issue with moderation of a board take it up privately with the board mods or raise a support ticket

 

[adogsfan5]

well if you're not going to report a post but you are going to complain publicly about moderation of that post I really can't see the point of continuing the conversation beyond reminding you that if you have an issue with moderation of a board take it up privately with the board mods or raise a support ticket

If I need it, I’ll certainly do that, thank you.

 

[Chief]

now supposedly it’s a good source to use and will harm his business.

The Daily Mail has got a definite bias.

And a rich crackpot's opinion reported in the Daily Mail might harm his business.

Both can be true.

 

[adogsfan5]

The Daily Mail has got a definite bias.

And a rich crackpot's opinion reported in the Daily Mail might harm his business.

Both can be true.

Ok sure, keep me posted on how much of his millions he loses in the coming week, before everyone forgets about it.

 

[Chief]

Ok sure, keep me posted on how much of his millions he loses in the coming week, before everyone forgets about it.

"Might". Not "will".

 

[Festerz]

The Daily Mail has got a definite bias.

And a rich crackpot's opinion reported in the Daily Mail might harm his business.

Both can be true.

And the focus on the Daily Mail as opposed to the actions of the subject of their article that was linked in my post misses the point entirely of course.

Although I plead guilty to the allegation that I was trolling cookers in my post - albeit in a generic rather than a targeted manner. Apologies to any self identified cookers who were offended.

But perhaps this explains my point better.

 

[adogsfan5]

And the focus on the Daily Mail as opposed to the actions of the subject of their article that was linked in my post misses the point entirely of course.

Although I plead guilty to the allegation that I was trolling cookers in my post - albeit in a generic rather than a targeted manner. Apologies to any self identified cookers who were offended.

But perhaps this explains my point better. View attachment 2184709

Imagine buying a Jim’s Mowing franchise, selling it, and are then looking for a new job, because Daniel Andrews can’t use Jim’s Mowing for his lawn (no one even knows if he ever has or ever would).

This would be the perfect time to use the word “cooker”.

 

[Sttew]

Interesting opinion piece in paper today by Kevin Donnelly, academic, former VCE examiner and Board Member of Victorian Board of Studies.

He lays the blame for the VCE exam debacle on Dan Andrews who appointed Educrats and political appointees to replace teachers who for decades wrote, marked and reviewed exams. What happened this year is a “long term systemic problem” according to Donnelly.

65 out of 74 mainstream VCE exams compromised this year, with no changes made to 40 exams even after leaks were discovered.

 

[Gough]

Interesting opinion piece in paper today by Kevin Donnelly, academic, former VCE examiner and Board Member of Victorian Board of Studies.

He lays the blame for the VCE exam debacle on Dan Andrews who appointed Educrats and political appointees to replace teachers who for decades wrote, marked and reviewed exams. What happened this year is a “long term systemic problem” according to Donnelly.

65 out of 74 mainstream VCE exams compromised this year, with no changes made to 40 exams even after leaks were discovered.

They could be teaching straight out of the old testament and Kevin Donnelly would still find reason to criticise a Labor government.

 

[Sttew]

They could be teaching straight out of the old testament and Kevin Donnelly would still find reason to criticise a Labor government.

You disagree with his take?

Leanings aside, Donnelly is eminently more qualified to talk about this debacle than you and I.

 

[Jane Doe]

You disagree with his take?

Leanings aside, Donnelly is eminently more qualified to talk about this debacle than you and I.

Dan Andrews could murder someone and old mate would still defend him.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

You disagree with his take?

Leanings aside, Donnelly is eminently more qualified to talk about this debacle than you and I.

He's like that other bozo Terry MCrann, only economist who found significant faults with the handling of the GFC because he's a right wing conservative same applies with Donnelly who's got 1950s views on Education and never says anything positive about Labor even if it goes against fellow experts in the field. If he has other experts backing up his claim than it has merit otherwise it's just a bias viewpoint from a right wing former principal.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

I always felt sorry for Brett, he seemed like he was just toeing the company line most of the time and the one time he says too much, he was finally given a rest for a few days!

Haha, Andy Robertson said the wrong thing in WA and got sent to the Siberian salt mines. Sutton got off lightly.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

Yep! As conceded, the Feds were a part of the issue. Just nothing like the omnishambles of the Vic Gov though.

Out of interest, what was the end percentage of repatriated Australians who came back through the Kingsford Smith airport and the Berejiklian government's hotel quarantine?

NSW did most of the heavy lifting in that regard after Andrews locked Vic down hard.

Gladys was the best of the lot during COVID.

 

[Sttew]

He's like that other bozo Terry MCrann, only economist who found significant faults with the handling of the GFC because he's a right wing conservative same applies with Donnelly who's got 1950s views on Education and never says anything positive about Labor even if it goes against fellow experts in the field. If he has other experts backing up his claim than it has merit otherwise it's just a bias viewpoint from a right wing former principal.

Defending the utterly indefensible again. You can criticise Kevin Donnelly but he is right! What has happened with the VCE exams was an absolute debacle that was 100% preventable.

 

[Reg Grundy35]

Interesting opinion piece in paper today by Kevin Donnelly, academic, former VCE examiner and Board Member of Victorian Board of Studies.

He lays the blame for the VCE exam debacle on Dan Andrews who appointed Educrats and political appointees to replace teachers who for decades wrote, marked and reviewed exams. What happened this year is a “long term systemic problem” according to Donnelly.

65 out of 74 mainstream VCE exams compromised this year, with no changes made to 40 exams even after leaks were discovered.

Donnelly is a geriatric loony who gets trotted out when the IPA want to slag schools under labor government. He knows "heck all" about contemporary education. I was in that game for 40 years and the libs were trotting that fwit right through it. All he is good for is writing supportive articles for RW pollies. No school would seriously look at his theories for kids. They'd be laughed at.

 

[Reg Grundy35]

Defending the utterly indefensible again. You can criticise Kevin Donnelly but he is right! What has happened with the VCE exams was an absolute debacle that was 100% preventable.

you wouldn't have to be an expert to see that was a debacle. Even Donnelly couldnt miss that low hanging fruit. A bigger stuff up would be to take his suggestions for teaching and learning seriously. He is a RW puppet who will write you a supportive article on request and inflate his qualifications. No educators in any system, govt, private or ind would dare implement that clown's policies for fear of being laughing stocks. He write for politicians and Murdoch, not school educators. Sucked you in though I see.

 

[Reg Grundy35]

NSW did most of the heavy lifting in that regard after Andrews locked Vic down hard.

Gladys was the best of the lot during COVID.

what???? when she wasn't shagging that crook? i still doubt it. She ran away every day like a scared rabbit. It was pathetic

 

[Reg Grundy35]

You disagree with his take?

Leanings aside, Donnelly is eminently more qualified to talk about this debacle than you and I.

I would query that. What exactly are Donnellys quals?

 

[Reg Grundy35]

Dan Andrews could murder someone and old mate would still defend him.

he could also save someone's life and you'd dump on him . so go figure

 

[Sttew]

I would query that. What exactly are Donnellys quals?

• taught for eighteen years in secondary schools (in both the government and non-government educational systems).
• was branch president of the Victorian Secondary Teachers Association (V.S.T.A.).
• In 1996 he undertook a strategic review of the Queensland Education Department for Minister Bob Quinn, focusing on organisation and curriculum at the senior policy level.
• In 1997 he was a member of the Victorian Board of Studies.
• In 1998 he undertook an analysis of Mathematics, Science and English curriculum across a range of school systems, both national and international, as a benchmarking exercise for the Victorian Department of Education.
• In 2000 he completed a comparative analysis of the New Zealand National Certificate of Educational Achievement for the NZ Education Forum
• In 2005–06, he was a member of the steering committee for the federally funded enquiry into the Australian Certificate of Education
• In 2008 he established the Education Standards Institute in Melbourne
• In 2013 he was appointed as Senior Research Fellow in the Faculty of Education and Arts at the Australian Catholic University in Melbourne

That's just some of his achievements

 

[The Punter]

• taught for eighteen years in secondary schools (in both the government and non-government educational systems).
• was branch president of the Victorian Secondary Teachers Association (V.S.T.A.).
• In 1996 he undertook a strategic review of the Queensland Education Department for Minister Bob Quinn, focusing on organisation and curriculum at the senior policy level.
• In 1997 he was a member of the Victorian Board of Studies.
• In 1998 he undertook an analysis of Mathematics, Science and English curriculum across a range of school systems, both national and international, as a benchmarking exercise for the Victorian Department of Education.
• In 2000 he completed a comparative analysis of the New Zealand National Certificate of Educational Achievement for the NZ Education Forum
• In 2005–06, he was a member of the steering committee for the federally funded enquiry into the Australian Certificate of Education
• In 2008 he established the Education Standards Institute in Melbourne
• In 2013 he was appointed as Senior Research Fellow in the Faculty of Education and Arts at the Australian Catholic University in Melbourne

That's just some of his achievements

You mentioned that last one just to trigger him, right?

 

[Sttew]

Donnelly is a geriatric loony who gets trotted out when the IPA want to slag schools under labor government. He knows "heck all" about contemporary education. I was in that game for 40 years and the libs were trotting that fwit right through it. All he is good for is writing supportive articles for RW pollies. No school would seriously look at his theories for kids. They'd be laughed at.

Find it incredibly hard to believe you were in the teaching caper for 40 years and you're not a "geriatric looney"?

So, we cannot trust anything Donnelly says but we have to accept the crap this government has dished up? I haven't heard you offer a solution? Was Donnelly right in saying HSC / VCE exams used to be written by teachers now they are the province of educrats employed in the oversized Victorian Public Service who see nothing wrong in leaking exams or issuing practice exams to students that contain the actual exam questions?