Player Watch Daniel Curtin

[Scorpus]

And fair to say on paper West Coast and Hawthorn offered better deals than us too.

I think they'd be pretty upset after knowing what deal GWS actually took

 

[119others]

I think they'd be pretty upset after knowing what deal GWS actually took

agreed. we got him for such a mininal price - effectively our future second rounder only (perhaps pick 30-35 next year) compared to an Eagles likely pick 1-3 and Horks 2-6.

Sometimes you are kissed on the **** by a fairy and for once, it was US

 

[PeterSalt]

agreed. we got him for such a mininal price - effectively our future second rounder only (perhaps pick 30-35 next year) compared to an Eagles likely pick 1-3 and Horks 2-6.

Sometimes you are kissed on the **** by a fairy and for once, it was US

I wonder if the analysts put a value on the time decay of their playing lists

 

[Carn The Texan]

I wonder if the analysts put a value on the time decay of their playing lists

Do you mean "is there an equivalent draft cost to trading back a year, every year"? I think somebody has quantified that on here before, and the answer was definitely yes. I just don't know who posted it and where they posted it sorry

 

[119others]

I wonder if the analysts put a value on the time decay of their playing lists

Could play a part mate. But all up I just feel we got very very lucky. Time will tell but wouldn’t surprise me to see Curtin the second best player from this draft. Let’s review in 5 years time..

Considering all the facts at play (Doggies not needing talls esp with Croft coming, Dees wanting speed and Windsor, Kangas apparently scared by go-home factor) before the far superior deals (Eagles and Howks F1) that GWS knocked back because they wanted to stay in the draft to get favoured prospect as feel they are close to a flag.

just a confluence of so many factors. Feel very lucky and happy with this one

 

[PeterSalt]

Do you mean "is there an equivalent draft cost to trading back a year, every year"? I think somebody has quantified that on here before, and the answer was definitely yes. I just don't know who posted it and where they posted it sorry

Yes

For me, without doing any research, I wonder if GWS look at the age profile of the players on their list and think they're better off getting in a couple of quality players immediately .. rather than a top 4 pick 12 months down the track?

Not necessarily doing it year on year

 

[Crow till I die]

And fair to say on paper West Coast and Hawthorn offered better deals than us too.

What it also tells us is that both clubs rated Curtin at least worthy of a top 5 pick as both clubs would not reasonably expect their F1 to be outside next years top 5 in a strong midfielder draft

 

[119others]

Yes

For me, without doing any research, I wonder if GWS look at the age profile of the players on their list and think they're better off getting in a couple of quality players immediately .. rather than a top 4 pick 12 months down the track?

Not necessarily doing it year on year

Yep agreed esp for GWS who are right in the premiership window. In 2-3 years time some of their elite mids will be fading. Coniglio, Whitfield and T Greene all 30+ next season..

 

[PeterSalt]

Yep agreed esp for GWS who are right in the premiership window. In 2-3 years time some of their elite mids will be fading. Coniglio, Whitfield and T Greene all 30+ next season..

I legit think, based on GWS's form in the back half of the season, that they can be a legit premiership contender in 2024

A better start to the season and maybe a top 4 finish, who knows

 

[119others]

What it also tells us is that both clubs rated Curtin at least worthy of a top 5 pick as both clubs would not reasonably expect their F1 to be outside next years top 5 in a strong midfielder draft

I did have someone with apparent Weagles Board connections let me know Freo and Weagles had Curtin rated top 3. I emailed old mates Reidy and Silvers again (yes apologies for those who get annoyed by me doing this ) and passed this info on amongst other things. They knew of the same info recd in one of the return emails from both Gents

we will need to get ready for both WA clubs to try and raid Curtin - I imagine after the first contract even before he gets too entrenched here. Luckily for us we have a very young and exciting contending group with so many blockbuster games coming up. Great time to join our young talented group.

that said, wondering what flexibility we have to even start with getting a small extension (eg even if just one year initially… clearly the longer the better assuming all works out as planned). Can we say move his third year of current rookie contract up to say 500k assuming he signs for a 1-2 year extension at similar or higher amounts?). Good investment if so…show the boy the money

 

[119others]

I legit think, based on GWS's form in the back half of the season, that they can be a legit premiership contender in 2024

A better start to the season and maybe a top 4 finish, who knows

Yep absolutely. Kingsley apparently told their Board it would take 2-3 mths to bed down the new game plan and after that they were probably a top 2-3 performing team in the second half of the year and very unlucky not to beat Pies in prelim.

Hard to dislike Giants IMO

 

[Crow till I die]

I did have someone with apparent Weagles Board connections let me know Freo and Weagles had Curtin rated top 3. I emailed old mates Reidy and Silvers again (yes apologies for those who get annoyed by me doing this ) and passed this info on amongst other things. They knew of the same info recd in one of the return emails from both Gents

we will need to get ready for both WA clubs to try and raid Curtin - I imagine after the first contract even before he gets too entrenched here. Luckily for us we have a very young and exciting contending group with so many blockbuster games coming up. Great time to join our young talented group.

that said, wondering what flexibility we have to even start with getting a small extension (eg even if just one year initially… clearly the longer the better assuming all works out as planned). Can we say move his third year of current rookie contract up to say 500k assuming he signs for a 1-2 year extension at similar or higher amounts?). Good investment if so…show the boy the money

I would think if he comes in next year and really leaves a mark, they will be trying to get him to extend before the end of next year and if we really do have a warchest, they would be able to put a pretty substantial deal his way

 

[Golumless]

We played him up forward late in the season didn’t we? Maybe that was a dress rehearsal as we knew McAdam was gone.

Half back flank/wing if i recall.

We've pretty exclusively used Cook as an outside mid at AFL level.

 

[Velvet George]

Half back flank/wing if i recall.

We've pretty exclusively used Cook as an outside mid at AFL level.

I meant SANFL

 

[GreyCrow]

Kangas apparently scared by go-home factor) before the far superior deals (Eagles and Howks F1) that GWS knocked back because they wanted to stay in the draft to get favoured prospect as feel they are close to a flag.

I dont understand this from North - they wanted Reid who was always going and went west yet didnt see the potential long term play by taking Curtin

If Curtin projects as much as said then Reid for Curtin could have been cheaper for North in a few years rather than 3 x 1sts

 

[PeterSalt]

I meant SANFL

Half back later in the season. Thought that could've been a result of losing Keane and Borlase to the AFL team

 

[Golumless]

I meant SANFL

Possible, but I wouldn't attribute that to any kind of master plan if we haven't selected along those lines in AFL. Especially for a lad who has played a fair bit forward in the last few years.

Considering 2023, and how we treated McAdams absence, the chances of us looking for a direct replacement for McAdam is rather low.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Thank god for Adrian Caruso and his love for Gothard

 

[119others]

another one. seems to show some footage not seen elsewhere

 

[Jeffcrowe]

agreed. we got him for such a mininal price - effectively our future second rounder only (perhaps pick 30-35 next year) compared to an Eagles likely pick 1-3 and Horks 2-6.

Sometimes you are kissed on the **** by a fairy and for once, it was US

We were due

 

[119others]

EDIT i have somehow buggered this up. I thought Curtin was BOG in the 2022 Futures game so posted link to the game. Clearly I have got something VERY wrong here haha. Bicks or someone else can you explain what game Curtin kicked 5 and was BOG as certainly not the game linked below !!!


Last one, and apologies if already posted as haven’t read all 30 pages of thread.

2022 AFL Grand Final Futures Game for 17 year olds. Curtin BOG kicking a bag of 5 whilst playing forward. Just trying to work out what position he wins his first Norm Smith playing

NAB AFL U17 Futures Match

2022 U17 Grand Final Curtain Raiser

www.afl.com.au

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

And fair to say on paper West Coast and Hawthorn offered better deals than us too.

But GWS like us were keen to add 1st round players this year... not next year... & the other 2 sides were wanting to use their futures for trading not this year's 1sts.

 

[ABAB]

I dont understand this from North - they wanted Reid who was always going and went west yet didnt see the potential long term play by taking Curtin

If Curtin projects as much as said then Reid for Curtin could have been cheaper for North in a few years rather than 3 x 1sts

Well, from all reports Clarkson did........

 

[Crow till I die]

But GWS like us were keen to add 1st round players this year... not next year... & the other 2 sides were wanting to use their futures for trading not this year's 1sts.

I was surprised WCE had their F1 still on the table for Caddy. Curtin is totally understandable..top end, WA boy, can play anywhere etc. Caddy not in the same talent band to the eye from the highlights

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I was surprised WCE had their F1 still on the table for Caddy. Curtin is totally understandable..top end, WA boy, can play anywhere etc. Caddy not in the same talent band to the eye from the highlights

Or O'Sullivan ?? .....more likely given McGovern is nearer to the end