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DJ75 said:
Did we really send Ben Keays to meet him at the airport? Ben Keays?
Not Tex? Not Rory (he never does this stuff though)? Not Laird?
Not Rachele? Or Hinge? Or Thilthorpe? Or Rankine? Or...?

Ben Keays?
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Imagine acting like you know better than the club on who to send to meet a player. The audacity of some of our supporters is unbelievable
 
DJ75 said:
Did we really send Ben Keays to meet him at the airport? Ben Keays?
Not Tex? Not Rory (he never does this stuff though)? Not Laird?
Not Rachele? Or Hinge? Or Thilthorpe? Or Rankine? Or...?

Ben Keays?
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FFS Grow up


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adelaidecrows said:
Some people just hate on players unfairly.
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Happens at every sporting club I follow. No player giving everything they have deserves inane criticism. Keays, Murphy and McHenry are members of the current 'those we love to hate' club but they don't pick themselves and, despite obvious flaws in their games, give all they have each time they step out. Crouch, Fogarty, Milera, Jones, ROB, Sholl and now Sloane are other current players who have been, or are still treated disgracefully by a few supporters.
 
Ok I will bite .
Watching Bickleys interviews which were very good ,with players training in background with all their skills but who was first whilst watching fumble and run past the ball .
Yep probably our smallest play McHenry.
Sorry CDC60 but he isn't going to get any better.
 
craig crowing said:
Ok I will bite .
Watching Bickleys interviews which were very good ,with players training in background with all their skills but who was first whilst watching fumble and run past the ball .
Yep probably our smallest play McHenry.
Sorry CDC60 but he isn't going to get any better.
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I agree. It is likely this is peak Ned. Most of us have already passed judgment on his ability and possible contribution to the team so even more reason not to expect him to be something he's not. Endless criticism doesn't improve anyone either and will likely see them regress.
 
CDC60 said:
I agree. It is likely this is peak Ned. Most of us have already passed judgment on his ability and possible contribution to the team so even more reason not to expect him to be something he's not. Endless criticism doesn't improve anyone either and will likely see them regress.
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Not sure any criticism I have of him is not going to make him lose any sleep.
But from appearances on TV, it doesn't look like lost any self esteem .
I guess when it all added up I just want kids with real talent to get opportunities .
 
craig crowing said:
Not sure any criticism I have of him is not going to make him lose any sleep.
But from appearances on TV, it doesn't look like lost any self esteem .
I guess when it all added up I just want kids with real talent to get opportunities .
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Well lets hope Taylor, Edwards, Cook and one or 2 others really have big preseasons and there is pressure for spots so if players are getting picked, they would have earned it
 
Crow till I die said:
Well lets hope Taylor, Edwards, Cook and one or 2 others really have big preseasons and there is pressure for spots so if players are getting picked, they would have earned it
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Cook is such a clean user of the ball.
Do we use him off a half back flank or up forward?

Taylor was the player I was most looking forward to debut this year, so hoping he gets a good run next season.

Edwards we should use to rest Smith & others during the season.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
Cook is such a clean user of the ball.
Do we use him off a half back flank or up forward?

Taylor was the player I was most looking forward to debut this year, so hoping he gets a good run next season.

Edwards we should use to rest Smith & others during the season.
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If cook can really have a flawless preseason, he is a guy that i'd love to see have a run in McAdam's old spot. As you say he uses the ball well and he has an eye for goal. Just needs to toughen up a bit physically
 
glengowan said:
That was my immediate thought when Wednesday night and 90's was mentioned.
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$10 illusion shakers & $1 sambuca shots...and to really drag the conversation down, how about the booze bus tours where if you were lucky, you'd get 1 plastic cup of weest end beer between pub stops.
 

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Kane McGoodwin said:
Cook is such a clean user of the ball.
Do we use him off a half back flank or up forward?

Taylor was the player I was most looking forward to debut this year, so hoping he gets a good run next season.

Edwards we should use to rest Smith & others during the season.
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Edwards needs to go the Will Day path, after thinking about it a bit

Wing/HB for the first two or three years at AFL level while he gains confidence in his body and abilities, whilst developing his mid game in the SANFL, culminating in high level CBA minutes from year four, or hopefully sooner
 
Danger in Texas said:
Edwards needs to go the Will Day path, after thinking about it a bit

Wing/HB for the first two or three years at AFL level while he gains confidence in his body and abilities, whilst developing his mid game in the SANFL, culminating in high level CBA minutes from year four, or hopefully sooner
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He is a fair bit more solid than day was in his draft year
 
Crow till I die said:
$10 illusion shakers & $1 sambuca shots...and to really drag the conversation down, how about the booze bus tours where if you were lucky, you'd get 1 plastic cup of weest end beer between pub stops.
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Geez, used to put down the Illusion shots down like water.

The Lemon Ruskies...
 
Crow till I die said:
If cook can really have a flawless preseason, he is a guy that i'd love to see have a run in McAdam's old spot. As you say he uses the ball well and he has an eye for goal. Just needs to toughen up a bit physically
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We played him up forward late in the season didn’t we? Maybe that was a dress rehearsal as we knew McAdam was gone.
 

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George Kramer said:
We played him up forward late in the season didn’t we? Maybe that was a dress rehearsal as we knew McAdam was gone.
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No, his only game was on a half back flank & he played well.

Played much of his earlier games up forward.
 
George Kramer said:
We played him up forward late in the season didn’t we? Maybe that was a dress rehearsal as we knew McAdam was gone.
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I think it’s a risky move to play Cook up forward as he might get starved of the footy in our forward line

Needs to play wing or HB to get him more involved in the game


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Inside the draft: How Dons landed Caddy, Saints cash in on pick scramble

Cal Twomey reveals the behind-the-scenes dealings during a dramatic first round at the 2023 AFL Draft
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still cant believe we pulled this off. FN amazing


IT WAS the St Kilda trade decision that likely cost West Coast drafting Dan Curtin last week.

In the lead-up to the first round of the AFL Draft last Monday night, all attention centred on Curtin's landing spot and Greater Western Sydney's pick No.7. With Curtin projected to slide, the Giants had multiple offers from five clubs for the pick.
One was from the Eagles, who were willing to trade their future first-round pick for the Giants' selection this year.

The Giants looked at all options but had decided they wanted to prioritise drafting small forward Phoenix Gothard. They proposed a trade with the Saints, which would have seen the Giants give up pick 16 and a future second-round pick to take the Saints' pick 13.

That would have put the Giants ahead of North Melbourne, who had a level of interest in Gothard, as well as the Saints, who were also in the mix for the Murray Bushrangers prospect, and all but lock GWS in to grab the goalkicker.

If that deal had gone through, the Giants would then likely have accepted the Eagles' offer of their future pick – which could be a top-three pick next season – and allowed West Coast to couple Harley Reid with a Curtin coup. But the Saints said no, conscious that a slide of three spots would risk their access to Darcy Wilson given Adelaide and North's interest after their selection. The Giants moved in a different direction, leaving Adelaide to swoop on Curtin.

It was just one of countless sets of sliding doors moments in last week's first round, as the draft continues to evolve as a tactical and strategic battle. This is the inside story of the first 29 selections in the 2023 draft – the countless offers and deals that didn't happen, the 'what ifs' and maybes, the players who were in each club's sights, the bluffs, the bids and proof that every draft pick is connected to the next.

That decision then left the Giants with the biggest call of the draft.

Days earlier, it had become clear that there was a growing chance Curtin would be available at their pick. But did the Giants want another tall defender? And how much did other clubs want the tall defender?

West Coast offered its future first-round pick. Hawthorn offered its future first-round pick for the selection and a future third-rounder coming back. Essendon offered its future first-round pick, with another offer of its top pick and a future second-round pick. Adelaide put forward different scenarios using its first two first-round picks to snag the Giants' prized selection. All were plotting ways to be the Curtin raiser.

Only hours before the draft, the Giants decided they wanted to retain a pick in the top part of the draft, thus ruling out the West Coast and Hawthorn future pick options. The Giants had come off a preliminary final berth with a very quiet Trade Period so wanted to use the draft to add to their list and not stand still.

The only way they would have done that was the St Kilda offer to shift up to pick 13 from 16 and all but guarantee Gothard's availability, which then would have seen the Giants trade the pick to West Coast, who would have selected Curtin. But the Saints weren't moving, either.

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It left the Giants to deal with the Crows, with GWS swapping what had become pick 8 and 17 for Adelaide's picks 11, 15 and a 2024 second-round pick. That appealed to the Giants because it allowed them to retain two first-round picks but be confident Gothard would be available.

The Crows, meanwhile, had prioritised Curtin. Only days before the draft did Adelaide sense Curtin could be in play, with the late wheeling and dealing showing the value of DI (draft intelligence).

West Coast had another crack with Adelaide, hoping the Crows would prefer the Eagles' future pick instead of Curtin, as did the Hawks, but the Crows wanted to bolster their here and now in the key backs department by choosing the Claremont product. It was almost a sign of the next evolution of the draft: the Giants, and then the Crows, were not trading the pick - they were trading the rights to Curtin. Greater Western Sydney had become holder of the player, not the pick. Some clubs feel it represented the first step to trading just drafted players during the event itself.

It sets up an interesting alternative draft universe had the Hawks picked Curtin instead of Watson with their first choice. In the ultimate 'What if?' that order (not including bids) would likely have been Reid to the Eagles, McKercher and Duursma to North, Curtin to the Hawks, Sanders to the Dogs and Watson to the Demons.

Then, the Giants would likely have accepted Melbourne's offer of pick 11 and a future first-rounder for pick seven and the Demons swoop on Windsor, Geelong and Essendon would have still been able to secure O'Sullivan and Caddy and then Wilson could have landed at the Crows. After that, the Giants would still have drafted Gothard and the Swans taken Green before Collard gets to the Saints and Leake to the Crows.
 
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www.afl.com.au

Inside the draft: How Dons landed Caddy, Saints cash in on pick scramble

Cal Twomey reveals the behind-the-scenes dealings during a dramatic first round at the 2023 AFL Draft
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au

IT WAS the St Kilda trade decision that likely cost West Coast drafting Dan Curtin last week.

In the lead-up to the first round of the AFL Draft last Monday night, all attention centred on Curtin's landing spot and Greater Western Sydney's pick No.7. With Curtin projected to slide, the Giants had multiple offers from five clubs for the pick.
One was from the Eagles, who were willing to trade their future first-round pick for the Giants' selection this year.

The Giants looked at all options but had decided they wanted to prioritise drafting small forward Phoenix Gothard. They proposed a trade with the Saints, which would have seen the Giants give up pick 16 and a future second-round pick to take the Saints' pick 13.

That would have put the Giants ahead of North Melbourne, who had a level of interest in Gothard, as well as the Saints, who were also in the mix for the Murray Bushrangers prospect, and all but lock GWS in to grab the goalkicker.

If that deal had gone through, the Giants would then likely have accepted the Eagles' offer of their future pick – which could be a top-three pick next season – and allowed West Coast to couple Harley Reid with a Curtin coup. But the Saints said no, conscious that a slide of three spots would risk their access to Darcy Wilson given Adelaide and North's interest after their selection. The Giants moved in a different direction, leaving Adelaide to swoop on Curtin.

It was just one of countless sets of sliding doors moments in last week's first round, as the draft continues to evolve as a tactical and strategic battle. This is the inside story of the first 29 selections in the 2023 draft – the countless offers and deals that didn't happen, the 'what ifs' and maybes, the players who were in each club's sights, the bluffs, the bids and proof that every draft pick is connected to the next.
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Offers from 5 clubs!
 

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