Universal Love David Mackay Appreciation Thread

[Elite Crow]

Just as I expected

 

[Elite Crow]

You're right.

Your old mate Elite Crow wanted to let you know that the coaches gave him votes in his 3 good games out of those 8 (all 3 were against bottom 8 opponents).

The other 5 performances (including 5 of the first 6 games of the season) netted him a grand total of 0 votes.

Hardly a good start to the year I wouldn't have thought.

But honestly, who cares what his start to 2015 was like? It's been blatant for 4 years now that Mackay is not a difference maker at AFL level. He's a solid depth outside player who wouldn't be in any competitive side's best 22 in 2016. He won't be in our side either if all of Knight, Cameron, Menzel, Seedsman, Hampton, Smith etc are fit to start the year. The return of Henderson and Jaensch to calculations by Round 5-10 will make his path to senior footy even harder, and it's pretty easy to see Milera going past him by the bye (if he hasn't already).

Mackay has been kissed on the dick in the past by our club's lack of viable alternative outside options. That issue has now been rectified, and I wouldn't mind betting that D-Mac gets traded for a bag of chips this offseason (pick 40-50) to a struggling Victorian club like Essendon, Melbourne or Carlton.

Just in case I missed it, has Wayne's-World addressed this yet?

 

[Squiba]

You're right.

Your old mate Elite Crow wanted to let you know that the coaches gave him votes in his 3 good games out of those 8 (all 3 were against bottom 8 opponents).

The other 5 performances (including 5 of the first 6 games of the season) netted him a grand total of 0 votes.

Hardly a good start to the year I wouldn't have thought.

But honestly, who cares what his start to 2015 was like? It's been blatant for 4 years now that Mackay is not a difference maker at AFL level. He's a solid depth outside player who wouldn't be in any competitive side's best 22 in 2016. He won't be in our side either if all of Knight, Cameron, Menzel, Seedsman, Hampton, Smith etc are fit to start the year. The return of Henderson and Jaensch to calculations by Round 5-10 will make his path to senior footy even harder, and it's pretty easy to see Milera going past him by the bye (if he hasn't already).

Mackay has been kissed on the dick in the past by our club's lack of viable alternative outside options. That issue has now been rectified, and I wouldn't mind betting that D-Mac gets traded for a bag of chips this offseason (pick 40-50) to a struggling Victorian club like Essendon, Melbourne or Carlton.

Hey WW, just wondering what you think of this? Elite Crow is just wondering as well, being quite polite about it actually.

I agree with Hulucidal, that with 3 more outside options coming into the squad (Milera, Seedsman, Hampton) as well as our remaining outside players (Atkins, Henderson, Wigg etc) he will find it very difficult if he is dropped for over 3 games and his replacement performs.

If Dmac carves up the SANFL with 40+ touches 3 weeks in a row he could get back no worries, but I doubt it will happen.

 

[Ozzie]

Most of the team struggled. Mackay embarrassed himself. Do you remember the incident in the goalsquare? I refuse to call it a contest.

This is exactly what I was thinking when this whole thing started. You are not content to leave it as the whole team struggled, no you have to isolate one incident. This is the hatred part I was talking about. Absolutely no need for it IMO. This applies to others on here as well not just you. Getting back to incidents like that, I forget over the years how many times by different players rubbish like that has happened. As a player, you just pick yourself up and try and do better.

 

[Brown_DOG68]

This is exactly what I was thinking when this whole thing started. You are not content to leave it as the whole team struggled, no you have to isolate one incident. This is the hatred part I was talking about. Absolutely no need for it IMO. This applies to others on here as well not just you. Getting back to incidents like that, I forget over the years how many times by different players rubbish like that has happened. As a player, you just pick yourself up and try and do better.

Oh stop with the emotive stuff already. Hatred?? really?
I dont believe there is one poster on this board who hates David Mackay.
There are plenty of posters on this board who are simply frustrated at his continued selection over a number of years based on 1 half decent game in every ten, and they happen to be passionate about the issue. But hatred? no.

 

[Ozzie]

Oh stop with the emotive stuff already. Hatred?? really?
I dont believe there is one poster on this board who hates David Mackay.
There are plenty of posters on this board who are simply frustrated at his continued selection over a number of years based on 1 half decent game in every ten, and they happen to be passionate about the issue. But hatred? no.

Well how about stopping the derogatory remarks every time his name gets mentioned then.If that is not showing hatred towards a player most of us don't know personally I don't know what is. IMO there is a fine line between passionate and hatred.

 

[Tex200]

Well how about stopping the derogatory remarks every time his name gets mentioned then.If that is not showing hatred towards a player most of us don't know personally I don't know what is. IMO there is a fine line between passionate and hatred.

I doubt anyone hates him - his continued selection maybe.

I think you will find most have a grudging respect for him. We all aspire to hit that perfect point in our lives where we know we are gaining maximum money for minimum output.

David is there and we can only envy his position.

 

[Ozzie]

I doubt anyone hates him - his continued selection maybe.

I think you will find most have a grudging respect for him. We all aspire to hit that perfect point in our lives where we know we are gaining maximum money for minimum output.

David is there and we can only envy his position.

This a sensible post.

 

[Paladin]

This is exactly what I was thinking when this whole thing started. You are not content to leave it as the whole team struggled, no you have to isolate one incident. This is the hatred part I was talking about. Absolutely no need for it IMO. This applies to others on here as well not just you. Getting back to incidents like that, I forget over the years how many times by different players rubbish like that has happened. As a player, you just pick yourself up and try and do better.

Sigh. I was Davids biggest fan. But he has let us down again and again. I don't hate him but that final v Hawthorn proved we have to move on and he has a huge amount of work to do to get another chance.

I agree the repetitive bagging when he is not even relevant to the discussion is uncalled for and boring.

 

[marty36]

Oh stop with the emotive stuff already. Hatred?? really?
I dont believe there is one poster on this board who hates David Mackay.
There are plenty of posters on this board who are simply frustrated at his continued selection over a number of years based on 1 half decent game in every ten, and they happen to be passionate about the issue. But hatred? no.

It has nothing to do with the hatred of Mackay, he is either good enough or isnt, but the club is and should be open for discussion, on why he was given a large, long contract and a lot of game time if his performance doesnt warrant it!

 

[Ozzie]

It has nothing to do with the hatred of Mackay, he is either good enough or isnt, but the club is and should be open for discussion, on why he was given a large, long contract and a lot of game time if his performance doesnt warrant it!

FGS we all know why he was given the long contract. Do we need to be reminded endlessly. Look there reaches a point where one has to stop acting like a dog worrying a bone and just let it go. Peace and sanity will return to your lives.

 

[Elite Crow]

FGS we all know why he was given the long contract. Do we need to be reminded endlessly. Look there reaches a point where one has to stop acting like a dog worrying a bone and just let it go. Peace and sanity will return to your lives.

Why was he given the contract?

 

[GROTTO]

I doubt anyone hates him - his continued selection maybe.

I think you will find most have a grudging respect for him. We all aspire to hit that perfect point in our lives where we know we are gaining maximum money for minimum output.

David is there and we can only envy his position.

Mackay has been there ever since he signed his contract.

It will be so funny if he has a blinder of a year in his final year of the current contract.

 

[huludicidal]

Just in case I missed it, has Wayne's-World addressed this yet?

Nope

 

[marty36]

Mackay has been there ever since he signed his contract.

It will be so funny if he has a blinder of a year in his final year of the current contract.

Then get the spoons out for a bit of eating humble pie, I and the others hope you are right as it may mean a succesfull year on field! People only critisize as they are unhappy with finishing where we do, they wont success and look for the weak links why we are not acheiving it, and to have $$$$ tied up in salary to an under performer isnt really the right direction

 

[SydCrow]

at least we have put to bed any doubts about this year's whipping boy

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[King Elvis]

FGS we all know why he was given the long contract. Do we need to be reminded endlessly. Look there reaches a point where one has to stop acting like a dog worrying a bone and just let it go. Peace and sanity will return to your lives.

Why was he given the contract?

Admin incompetence is what I assume...

 

[Ozzie]

Why was he given the contract?

Admin incompetence is what I assume...

The common reason I have gathered by reading on here is Melbourne offered him a long term deal which we matched as we had a dearth of outside runners at the time. Thanks, Yippett and Vlad. (2 bigger arseholes you will never find). No other reason makes sense.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I doubt anyone hates him - his continued selection maybe.

I think you will find most have a grudging respect for him. We all aspire to hit that perfect point in our lives where we know we are gaining maximum money for minimum output.

David is there and we can only envy his position.

you serious ? ..........the answer is not correct

if i had the time & willingness i could bring up posts that actually are hatred of a Crows player ....no grey area

Now people will think iam a supporter of Mackay ......well, i'll agree that i believe every Crows player is deserving of respect for having represented this great club ......and yes that applies to Meesen as well

This doesn't mean we can't be critical of players performances .....after all that's what this forum is about .....but you can do it with respect

That said ......no matter what anyone says .....there's a group of supporters akin to the Soccer "active supporter groups" that has their own agenda, and frankly doesn't support their club (although they would argue the opposite vehemently)

What's disappointing is the ringleaders don't find it hard to get the Lemming followers to follow mindlessly

9 flares .....yet a hundred supporters jumping up and down applauding what exactly?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Mackay has been there ever since he signed his contract.

It will be so funny if he has a blinder of a year in his final year of the current contract.

And the sense i get ...is that great performance will disappoint many .......understand that logic

 

[WaynesWorld19]

at least we have put to bed any doubts about this year's whipping boy

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Mackay took over from Doughty ......there will always be players who rise from the depths to be the next whipping boy

At least we're not Essendon fans, who actually boo their whipping boy at games ......Salmon, Stanton .......now that is total disrespect

 

[1970crow]

The common reason I have gathered by reading on here is Melbourne offered him a long term deal which we matched as we had a dearth of outside runners at the time. Thanks, Yippett and Vlad. (2 bigger arseholes you will never find). No other reason makes sense.

The name of the bloke who was getting paid large sums to protect our interests was a Mr Steven Trigg. I wouldn't bother directing my anger anywhere else. Mr Steven Trigg.

 

[1970crow]

And the sense i get ...is that great performance will disappoint many .......understand that logic

That's rubbish. After his bottler against Melbourne, the most consistent theme was that it was always known to be in there and it's now about getting to or near that level much more often. Sadly, we returned to the usual transmission all too quickly.

 

[Ozzie]

The name of the bloke who was getting paid large sums to protect our interests was a Mr Steven Trigg. I wouldn't bother directing my anger anywhere else. Mr Steven Trigg.

Well, we can make that 3 arseholes then but your point is well taken.

 

[Elite Crow]

So Wayne has continued to ignore the posts which refute his claim of how good DMack was in the first 8 games. Says it all really