Universal Love David Mackay Appreciation Thread

[azza77]

Very happy with MacKay so far, I was a hater but he's played fairly well this year. Tackling like crazy and his intent is there which is good to see.
The reason why everyone here was on his back so much because he's got way too much talent to be a mediocre 13 disposal a game player.
All the best on 150 d-MAC.

The fact that we are winning and the whole team is putting in such an even performance from all 22 players is the reason why Mackay has looked good. Yeah there's intent, but if there isn't he'd be out of the side quicker than you could blink because that's almost all he's got going for him.

Everyone is praising all his inside 50s blah blah and yet I cannot remember one passage of play so far in 5 rounds where he spotted someone up. All I seem to be able to recall is him just getting the ball and bombing away as deep into the 50 as possible.

People are getting ahead of themselves imo. Shoot me down all you want for being a so called hater, I'm not I just honestly think he still isn't playing that well and is riding on a team high produced by our stunning gameplan. As I stated in another thread, I think a lot of people are under the illusion that he's playing well because he's playing better than last year. Fact of the matter is I don't think he's still playing all that well and it goes to show how bad he really was last season.

I honestly think we would be better off in the short, medium and long term by playing someone like Knight, Menzel, Milera, possibly even Gore based on the very inside orientated role Mackay has been playing.
VB, Wright and Mackay were the trio of players in our side that I hated them being there and didn't think we would be going anywhere fast with them in our 22. 2/3 are gone so far.

Despite all this, Im okay with him staying in the side for now. We are playing good footy, he is contributing somewhat to the game plan. However, I really would have thought he'd be depth by now along with VB given Knight's emergence late last season and the acquisition of Menzel and Seedsman.

Good luck to him in his 150th and all, but I really want to see others who are more talented and more important to our future in the side sooner rather than later.

No top four team

Winners are grinners. At the moment he's riding high, happy if he can stay there

Exactly

 

[azza77]

I said pre-season Mackay was the direct one for one replacement for Dangerfield ....now in at centre bounces .......and so the sermon concludes

That is still the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard and there is next to zero evidence to prove that so.

There has been no "direct 1 for 1" Dangerfield replacement if you've actually been watching. We've completely restructured our midfield.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

That is still the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard and there is next to zero evidence to prove that so.

There has been no "direct 1 for 1" Dangerfield replacement if you've actually been watching. We've completely restructured our midfield.

You don't catch on quickly to someone having a bit of trolling do you

 

[azza77]

You don't catch on quickly to someone having a bit of trolling do you

Been on and off the board as I'm overseas so haven't been following every little detail.

Not unlike you to make a ridiculous statement like that though is it now?

 

[Mattrox]

He's playing more inside than ever this year

Under different instructions, where he is providing more run and carry and delivering I50.

He was "outside" under Sando yet had to get his own ball in hard ball gets often enough, particular noticed this in 2014. More handballs and CP with less UnCP 2014 than this year where he is "inside" more than ever.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Under different instructions, where he is providing more run and carry and delivering I50.

He was "outside" under Sando yet had to get his own ball in hard ball gets often enough, particular noticed this in 2014. More handballs and CP with less UnCP 2014 than this year where he is "inside" more than ever.

The term a players role is regularly used, but rarely understood ......all most judge players on are stats ...but coach's can enhance or destroy a players career, irrespective of that players talent

Think after 8 years the Melbourne coach is finally getting the best out of Watts, as a case in point

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Not bad for a talent-less hack who should never be allowed to play another AFL game

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Matrix Reloaded

 

[Bovo]

The fact that we are winning and the whole team is putting in such an even performance from all 22 players is the reason why Mackay has looked good. Yeah there's intent, but if there isn't he'd be out of the side quicker than you could blink because that's almost all he's got going for him.

Everyone is praising all his inside 50s blah blah and yet I cannot remember one passage of play so far in 5 rounds where he spotted someone up. All I seem to be able to recall is him just getting the ball and bombing away as deep into the 50 as possible.

People are getting ahead of themselves imo. Shoot me down all you want for being a so called hater, I'm not I just honestly think he still isn't playing that well and is riding on a team high produced by our stunning gameplan. As I stated in another thread, I think a lot of people are under the illusion that he's playing well because he's playing better than last year. Fact of the matter is I don't think he's still playing all that well and it goes to show how bad he really was last season.

I honestly think we would be better off in the short, medium and long term by playing someone like Knight, Menzel, Milera, possibly even Gore based on the very inside orientated role Mackay has been playing.
VB, Wright and Mackay were the trio of players in our side that I hated them being there and didn't think we would be going anywhere fast with them in our 22. 2/3 are gone so far.

Despite all this, Im okay with him staying in the side for now. We are playing good footy, he is contributing somewhat to the game plan. However, I really would have thought he'd be depth by now along with VB given Knight's emergence late last season and the acquisition of Menzel and Seedsman.

Good luck to him in his 150th and all, but I really want to see others who are more talented and more important to our future in the side sooner rather than later.



Exactly

You obviously missed the Richmond game then. Two clear pieces of play that hit Douglas (goal) and either Eddie or Walker (goal). But from this post it is obvious you have made your mind up....so not sure why I even bother.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[TrainRoo32]

Me thinks, time to retire!!
Press conference midweek

 

[Deaneus!]

I think this game perfectly encapsulates D-Mac's career

The occasional really good bit of play with a lot of stuff that made you shake your head

Also, JJ's interview: called him "butch"; if that's Mackay's nickname at the club, it's brilliant

 

[40porpoise]

Just watched his highlights package...its surprisingly quite good. He's done well this year and so far is beating the doubters (including me). Keep it up

 

[VSTone]

I think this game perfectly encapsulates D-Mac's career

The occasional really good bit of play with a lot of stuff that made you shake your head

Also, JJ's interview: called him "butch"; if that's Mackay's nickname at the club, it's brilliant

Grigg referred to him as Butcher in a pre-season audio grab as well...

 

[Coopers]

Everyone is praising all his inside 50s blah blah and yet I cannot remember one passage of play so far in 5 rounds where he spotted someone up. All I seem to be able to recall is him just getting the ball and bombing away as deep into the 50 as possible.

So... you don't remember anything about the games at all then?

 

[Ramify]

Couldnt stand him up til now, but the kid has earnt his spot big time this year.
Excepting last week where, despite the numbers,I thought hed gone backward a bit , he has been a big player in the way we move the ball and our onfield success in general.
Hes grown a set.
His tackling technique is unrecognisable compared to previous years and he seems to have shifted his centre of gravity when being tackled,sheperded,bumped and in blustery winds so as to keep his feet a whole lot better.
He is positioning himself far better to rove by getting behind the ball and more inside.
He seems to have found a new level of confidence in taking the game on and backing in his leg speed to the fullest.
He is one of our better inside 50 specialists as he has been lowering the eyes and making use of that leg of his as opposed to just bombing it high and long to a "zone".
He is not panicking anywhere near as much.
He, like Jeanch before him have made me suck eggs and Im very proud of the way I, along with other members of the BF motivation committe have ridden him into form this year.
Douggie and Tex will now be classified as this years whipping boys for me.Whos on board?

Keep it up little man!
Enjoying your breakout.

 

[Crow Envy]

If Mackay played his career like he has this year he wouldn't have copped scrutiny nor would he have been dropped by two coaches over the last 2 years.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If Mackay played his career like he has this year he wouldn't have copped scrutiny nor would he have been dropped by two coaches over the last 2 years.

Yes but new coach has him playing a new role .....talent was never in question, his role was though

 

[Crow Envy]

Yes but new coach has him playing a new role .....talent was never in question, his role was though

He does have a new role and is performing it well, however he has the attributes to be a running outside player which we badly needed and besides the odd game he rarely delivered. That's why he copped it, not because of a lack of talent. He frustrated supporters and some coaches.

 

[azza77]

You obviously missed the Richmond game then. Two clear pieces of play that hit Douglas (goal) and either Eddie or Walker (goal). But from this post it is obvious you have made your mind up....so not sure why I even bother.

So... you don't remember anything about the games at all then?

You guys just don't get it do you. He's just simply not THAT good. He is one of the weakest links in the side. We should be looking to upgrade him in our 22, not be contempt with his mediocre and inconsistent performances.

If we want to be a strong top 4 side and contend come September, again we should be looking to improve. Mackay would probably be in that 20-22 bracket and the thing is, we have much more talented players in our squad.

And again, you harp on about his inside 50s, but your focusing on the amount of inside 50s he has and using as an argument to prove how good he is, when it's almost a useless stat. He has the lowest inside 50 conversion % of our whole squad as another poster touched on. That is a damning stat and should tell you a lot, for someone thats supposed to be one of our "elite ball users" and deliver run and carry and good entry into our 50.

 

[azza77]

Yes but new coach has him playing a new role .....talent was never in question, his role was though

Talent is MOST certainly in question!

He fails to deliver in crucial moments and misses simple targets for someone that supposedly one of the better kicks in our side. What else is it if it's not talent.

Again, he's simply just not that good. So many people seem caught up in what he could have delivered, but the fact of the matter is he continues to deliver very mediocre performances.

After 5+ years inconsistency doesn't become a mental thing, it's just the fact that he doesn't have the talent to deliver time and time again.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Talent is MOST certainly in question!

You should be banned from this "appreciation" thread

 

[Ramify]

You guys just don't get it do you. He's just simply not THAT good. He is one of the weakest links in the side. We should be looking to upgrade him in our 22, not be contempt with his mediocre and inconsistent performances.

If we want to be a strong top 4 side and contend come September, again we should be looking to improve. Mackay would probably be in that 20-22 bracket and the thing is, we have much more talented players in our squad.

And again, you harp on about his inside 50s, but your focusing on the amount of inside 50s he has and using as an argument to prove how good he is, when it's almost a useless stat. He has the lowest inside 50 conversion % of our whole squad as another poster touched on. That is a damning stat and should tell you a lot, for someone thats supposed to be one of our "elite ball users" and deliver run and carry and good entry into our 50.

On current form this year you cannot call him a weak link. Douggie has produced far less.

 

[azza77]

On current form this year you cannot call him a weak link. Douggie has produced far less.

Most of our 22 play far more important roles in our structure and gameplay. Mackay is just tagging along in the midfield group and there for the high 5s all round when we win.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Most of our 22 play far more important roles in our structure and gameplay. Mackay is just tagging along in the midfield group and there for the high 5s all round when we win.

.....couldn't help when i read this