Draft Expert Davo-27's 2024 Draft Thread

[mattyc75]

Bo Allan looks good in the midfield, Luke Urquhart is a very direct long kicking mid who can burst away from congestion, Hamish Davis looks decent as well

Malakai Champion should fit the criteria

Champion will be nowhere near the pointy end.

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[Obeanie1]

Now, you're starting to lift.......looking forward to see what you have up your sleeve for the remainder of the season mate.

The talls take time and the u18 talls start impressing more close to the draft.

Mids and flankers can impress much earlier and take the early running on the top 20.

 

[spec tator]

Just found the Ranking points and stats from the U18 games on AFL Match centre.

 

[Davo-27]

July 2024 Rankings - Top 52


1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh (VC) - 182cm
2. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham (Bris FS) - 179cm
3. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm
4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel - 180cm
5. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm
6. Jonty Faull - GWV - 195cm
7. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 194cm
8. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm
9. Harry O'Farrell - Calder - 196cm
10. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm
11. Taj Hotton - Sandringham - 182cm (acl injury)
12. Josh Murphy - Murray - 190cm
13. Tyler Welsh - WWT (Adel FS)- 191cm
14. Christian Moraes - Eastern - 183cm
15. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 180cm
16. Jack Whitlock - Murray - 200cm
17. Harvey Langford - Dandenong - 190cm
18. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 186cm
19. Sam Marshall - Sandringham (Bris A) - 185cm
20. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm
21. Bo Allan - Peel - 191cm
22. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 185cm
23. Joe Berry - Murray - 180cm
24. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 181cm
25. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) - 194cm
26. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong - 190cm
27. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel - 182cm
28. Kayle Gerreyn - West Perth - 199cm
29. Thomas Sims - Northern - 199cm
30. Matt Whitlock - Murray - 197cm
31. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 183cm
32. Noah Mraz - Dandenong - 198cm
33. Zaydyn Lockwood - Bendigo - 198cm
34. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) - 175cm
35. Jesse Dattoli - Northern - 179cm
36. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm
37. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh - 186cm
38. Malakai Champion - Subiaco (WCE NGA) - 172cm
39. Damon Hollow - Calder - 180cm
40. Lucas McInerney - Northern - 180cm
41. Kade Herbert - WWT - 184cm
42. Lucca Grego - Western - 184cm
43. Doug Kerr - Oakleigh (acl injury/Coll NGA) - 192cm
44. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo - 186cm
45. Hugh Boxshall - Clare - 187cm
46. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tas - 178cm
47. Evan Bradley - Nth Adel - 174cm
48. Jacob Newton - Norwood - 178cm
49. Luke Urquhart - East Frem - 190cm
50. Jasper Alger - Oakleigh (VC) -182cm
51. Xavier Ivisic - Geelong - 180cm
52. Charlie Nicholls - Cent Dist - 197cm

 

[ydc55]

Still think Murphy Reid top 10 though you have brought him in from 30s.
Cannot see Josh Murphy being drafted before joe berry.
Sid Draper at 4 is way too early for mine.
I reckon Floyd burmiester is athletically gifted.
I watched retschenko play last week. Very slow for mine- one paced.

 

[THE_GUN]

20 - Lalor
29 - Thomas Sims
34 - Kako
44- Archer Day-Wicks

Id love this at Richmond it they were our later picks

 

[FB19]

July 2024 Rankings - Top 52


1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh (VC) - 182cm
2. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham (Bris FS) - 179cm
3. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm
4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel - 180cm
5. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm
6. Jonty Faull - GWV - 195cm
7. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 194cm
8. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm
9. Harry O'Farrell - Calder - 196cm
10. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm
11. Taj Hotton - Sandringham - 182cm (acl injury)
12. Josh Murphy - Murray - 190cm
13. Tyler Welsh - WWT (Adel FS)- 191cm
14. Christian Moraes - Eastern - 183cm
15. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 180cm
16. Jack Whitlock - Murray - 200cm
17. Harvey Langford - Dandenong - 190cm
18. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 186cm
19. Sam Marshall - Sandringham (Bris A) - 185cm
20. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm
21. Bo Allan - Peel - 191cm
22. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 185cm
23. Joe Berry - Murray - 180cm
24. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 181cm
25. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) - 194cm
26. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong - 190cm
27. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel - 182cm
28. Kayle Gerreyn - West Perth - 199cm
29. Thomas Sims - Northern - 199cm
30. Matt Whitlock - Murray - 197cm
31. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 183cm
32. Noah Mraz - Dandenong - 198cm
33. Zaydyn Lockwood - Bendigo - 198cm
34. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) - 175cm
35. Jesse Dattoli - Northern - 179cm
36. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm
37. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh - 186cm
38. Malakai Champion - Subiaco (WCE NGA) - 172cm
39. Damon Hollow - Calder - 180cm
40. Lucas McInerney - Northern - 180cm
41. Kade Herbert - WWT - 184cm
42. Lucca Grego - Western - 184cm
43. Doug Kerr - Oakleigh (acl injury/Coll NGA) - 192cm
44. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo - 186cm
45. Hugh Boxshall - Clare - 187cm
46. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tas - 178cm
47. Evan Bradley - Nth Adel - 174cm
48. Jacob Newton - Norwood - 178cm
49. Luke Urquhart - East Frem - 190cm
50. Jasper Alger - Oakleigh (VC) -182cm
51. Xavier Ivisic - Geelong - 180cm
52. Charlie Nicholls - Cent Dist - 197cm

And that’s why we need to keep our picks in the top 30. oFarrell and Shanahan will do nicely thanks.

 

[SaintsofSteel]

Its an interesting draft isnt it - very even, to a point where your last pick Nicholls could go in the top 25. I think small forwards are a premuim atm and Kako, Champion, Dattoli, Day-Wicks will all be top 30. I havent seen a lot of Faull but wouldnt rate him any higher than Simms or Gerryn on what I have seen. Faull projects as a Mihocek type and big bodied worker.

I thought the Whitlocks have been fairly ordinary in their championships games both look to lack agility/speed and dont rate either inside the top 40. Unless Lalor has a big back end of the season I can see him also being a big slider similiar to George Stevens last year. But its all subjective and I appreciate your efforts Davo.

 

[Davo-27]

Its an interesting draft isnt it - very even, to a point where your last pick Nicholls could go in the top 25. I think small forwards are a premuim atm and Kako, Champion, Dattoli, Day-Wicks will all be top 30. I havent seen a lot of Faull but wouldnt rate him any higher than Simms or Gerryn on what I have seen. Faull projects as a Mihocek type and big bodied worker.

I thought the Whitlocks have been fairly ordinary in their championships games both look to lack agility/speed and dont rate either inside the top 40. Unless Lalor has a big back end of the season I can see him also being a big slider similiar to George Stevens last year. But its all subjective and I appreciate your efforts Davo.

Faull strong mark and knows how to finish, a bit like Mihocek, maybe even better and i rate Mihocek and what he does for Coll in clutch moments.

The Whitlocks have great athletic traits, but have been a bit ordinary so far in the champs, I'm hoping they lift in their last 2 games to show their best and if they help VC win the champs, they could change perceptions

 

[robbo 39]

Surely Crows are doing everything possible to get him. Would be stupid not too.

I guess it’s the crows though.

Would they trade a 3rd to move up?

 

[hugecannon]

Would they trade a 3rd to move up?

Possibly depending on what changes there are to FS bidding as we have Welsh to consider.

I’m hoping we trade next years first for another pick this year and hopefully add a couple of high production midfielders.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

What’s your knock on Kako? To me he is doing everything possible to push as a potential top 10 selection.

Any thoughts on Xavier Kardachi from the jets? Even though he didn’t make the stacked Metro squad I feel like he is criminally underrated. Rarely plays a bad game, can play inside/outside and good balance between his offensive and defensive running.

 

[Davo-27]

What’s your knock on Kako? To me he is doing everything possible to push as a potential top 10 selection.

Any thoughts on Xavier Kardachi from the jets? Even though he didn’t make the stacked Metro squad I feel like he is criminally underrated. Rarely plays a bad game, can play inside/outside and good balance between his offensive and defensive running.

I have no knocks on Kako, just compare N Watson stats to Kako Stats in ctl, Academy and champs, the answer is there, Watson kicked over 2 a game, while also averaging around 30 in mid or hbf and in nearly every game was in the top 6 players, Kako is a bit over 1 a game, not so great in mid or hbf and rarely in the best 6 for his team, both quick exciting small forw prospects though, just not in the same league leading up to their professional careers, (1 is a top 5-10 and the other a 2nd rounder imo)Karachi didn't stand out enough for me, even at the Vic trials.

 

[TylerDurden]

Kako 34?? Bargain pick.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I have no knocks on Kako, just compare N Watson stats to Kako Stats in ctl, Academy and champs, the answer is there, Watson kicked over 2 a game, while also averaging around 30 in mid or hbf and in nearly every game was in the top 6 players, Kako is a bit over 1 a game, not so great in mid or hbf and rarely in the best 6 for his team, both quick exciting small forw prospects though, just not in the same league leading up to their professional careers, (1 is a top 5-10 and the other a 2nd rounder imo)Karachi didn't stand out enough for me, even at the Vic trials.

Interesting! Not sure I agree, but it's interesting to discuss.

Watson was a bit of a freak outlier when it came to his production as both a small forward and as a midfielder, however I think his midfield stats are a bit of a moot point because he is never going to be a full time midfielder at AFL level anyway, same goes for Kako. He was rightly ranked inside the top 5.

Kako's CTL stats compare favourably (if not better) with the likes of other recently drafted small forwards like, Jacob Konstanty, Josh Rachele, Cody Weightman who were all taken inside the top 20. Kako, imo has just as much upside as someone like a Rachele or Weightman when playing purely as a small forward.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Kako reminds me of Papley. Will be a better player than that cheating little bitch Watson.

 

[BuffDog]

I think Kako will be a dud and no one should take him in the top 40

 

[I got the outside word]

Kako reminds me of Papley. Will be a better player than that cheating little bitch Watson.

The Wiz take your girl or something?

 

[FB19]

Kako reminds me of Papley. Will be a better player than that cheating little bitch Watson.

That’s a very poor way to speak about anyone let alone an 18 year old guy trying to make it as an elite athlete who would have faced pretty difficult challenges and crap like this all through his childhood.

 

[SaintsofSteel]

Interesting! Not sure I agree, but it's interesting to discuss.

Watson was a bit of a freak outlier when it came to his production as both a small forward and as a midfielder, however I think his midfield stats are a bit of a moot point because he is never going to be a full time midfielder at AFL level anyway, same goes for Kako. He was rightly ranked inside the top 5.

Kako's CTL stats compare favourably (if not better) with the likes of other recently drafted small forwards like, Jacob Konstanty, Josh Rachele, Cody Weightman who were all taken inside the top 20. Kako, imo has just as much upside as someone like a Rachele or Weightman when playing purely as a small forward.

I believe Kako's strengths will translate better to AFL than Watson. I see Watson as a small man child (Gary Moorcroft) who wont have the same levels of improvement of other kids his age. Thats not to suggest he isnt or wont be a good player just limited because of his already mature body. Kako looks more in the Brad Close/Brent Daniels mould who can play that link role into the F50.

 

[Tortured Tiger]

That’s a very poor way to speak about anyone let alone an 18 year old guy trying to make it as an elite athlete who would have faced pretty difficult challenges and crap like this all through his childhood.

Yeah pretty classless sadly, apologies on behalf or decent Tiger supporters.

 

[Davo-27]

July 2024 Rankings - Top 52


1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh (VC) - 182cm
2. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham (Bris FS) - 179cm
3. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm
4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel - 180cm
5. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm
6. Jonty Faull - GWV - 195cm
7. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 194cm
8. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm
9. Harry O'Farrell - Calder - 196cm
10. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm
11. Taj Hotton - Sandringham - 182cm (acl injury)
12. Josh Murphy - Murray - 190cm
13. Tyler Welsh - WWT (Adel FS)- 191cm
14. Christian Moraes - Eastern - 183cm
15. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 180cm
16. Jack Whitlock - Murray - 200cm
17. Harvey Langford - Dandenong - 190cm
18. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 186cm
19. Sam Marshall - Sandringham (Bris A) - 185cm
20. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm
21. Bo Allan - Peel - 191cm
22. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 185cm
23. Joe Berry - Murray - 180cm
24. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 181cm
25. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) - 194cm
26. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong - 190cm
27. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel - 182cm
28. Kayle Gerreyn - West Perth - 199cm
29. Thomas Sims - Northern - 199cm
30. Matt Whitlock - Murray - 197cm
31. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 183cm
32. Noah Mraz - Dandenong - 198cm
33. Zaydyn Lockwood - Bendigo - 198cm
34. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) - 175cm
35. Jesse Dattoli - Northern - 179cm
36. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm
37. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh - 186cm
38. Malakai Champion - Subiaco (WCE NGA) - 172cm
39. Damon Hollow - Calder - 180cm
40. Lucas McInerney - Northern - 180cm
41. Kade Herbert - WWT - 184cm
42. Lucca Grego - Western - 184cm
43. Doug Kerr - Oakleigh (acl injury/Coll NGA) - 192cm
44. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo - 186cm
45. Hugh Boxshall - Clare - 187cm
46. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tas - 178cm
47. Evan Bradley - Nth Adel - 174cm
48. Jacob Newton - Norwood - 178cm
49. Luke Urquhart - East Frem - 190cm
50. Jasper Alger - Oakleigh (VC) -182cm
51. Xavier Ivisic - Geelong - 180cm
52. Charlie Nicholls - Cent Dist - 197cm

Make it a top 55

Harry Armstrong - Sand - 193cm kpf finally fit and looking draft worthy, hahls of 4,3 and 4 in last 3 games could bolt
Alex Dodson - Sturt - 203cm ruck getting some hype, with a lack of top tier rucks could be draft worthy
Hamish Davis - Clare - 190cm med forw with ability to win a good amount of disposal and kick bags in wafl colts

 

[Yoda_]

I have no knocks on Kako, just compare N Watson stats to Kako Stats in ctl, Academy and champs, the answer is there, Watson kicked over 2 a game, while also averaging around 30 in mid or hbf and in nearly every game was in the top 6 players, Kako is a bit over 1 a game, not so great in mid or hbf and rarely in the best 6 for his team, both quick exciting small forw prospects though, just not in the same league leading up to their professional careers, (1 is a top 5-10 and the other a 2nd rounder imo)Karachi didn't stand out enough for me, even at the Vic trials.

The finishing for me is the worry. Field kicking looks reasonable enough but goal kicking less Han 50% at CTL isn't great. I feel Kako is more explosive with both his chase and tackle and his ability overhead.

 

[feelyngood]

How many high visibility games are left for these guys to make an impression? Given Finn hasn't played much I wonder if he will make his mark as the clear no 1

 

[Mutineer]

Make it a top 55

Harry Armstrong - Sand - 193cm kpf finally fit and looking draft worthy, hahls of 4,3 and 4 in last 3 games could bolt
Alex Dodson - Sturt - 203cm ruck getting some hype, with a lack of top tier rucks could be draft worthy
Hamish Davis - Clare - 190cm med forw with ability to win a good amount of disposal and kick bags in wafl colts

I think Alex Dodson is sneaky chance to slip into the 1st round but certainly will be gone before the 3rd round...if he chooses AFL over basketball.