News Dean Bailey To The Tiges?

[UpTheGuts]

Melb players seemed to love him. I suspect Bailey's time at Melbourne will be best judged in 2013 or so.

I wouldn't go nuts if he came aboard. Cannot imagine he'd be super exey either...

 

[tigs2010]

wow .. proves my point at us being really mediocre and by employing this goose we will stay that way

Out of curiosity have you got anything to back that statement up with? It just seems u like to pot the club at every opportunity. Didn't get Craig, take a pot shot. Getting Bailey...take a pot shot etc etc.

IMO if we were trying to get both Craig and Bailey for the same position as an assistant/development coach then i'd take Bailey. I liked Craig for the role of sports science/assistant which it seems we didn't offer him.

 

[gaz86]

Forgive the intrusion guys, I know theres been a bit between the two supporter bases this week.

Great to see Dean Bailey get another gig somewhere else. As much as he didn't succeed at our club as head coach, doesn't mean he is going to be bad at yours. From what I've about him while on SEN as a special comments man, he has got a good footy brain and will be a great assistant to Dimma.

That said, I seriously think the direction he had us going at Melbourne was the wrong way to go about it. But people learn from mistakes and I am certain that Dean Bailey will too and be a better coach for it, assistant or otherwise.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Out of curiosity have you got anything to back that statement up with? It just seems u like to pot the club at every opportunity. Didn't get Craig, take a pot shot. Getting Bailey...take a pot shot etc etc.

IMO if we were trying to get both Craig and Bailey for the same position as an assistant/development coach then i'd take Bailey. I liked Craig for the role of sports science/assistant which it seems we didn't offer him.

He would rather the big name rather then the best man for the job, it's obvious with his cryng over Ross Smith who has fantastic credentials as a coach for defence but he isn't a big name and didn't cost 500k so

 

[rammbo]

Didn't know he had been with us before

I think weve made good inroads as far as culture is concerned in the last couple of years and melbourne has well and truely taken our mantle as THE BIGGEST LOSERS and for the record id b very wary of taking anyone back from our past eg knights ,lets move forward with winners only now.

 

[lvt06]

I think weve made good inroads as far as culture is concerned in the last couple of years and melbourne has well and truely taken our mantle as THE BIGGEST LOSERS and for the record id b very wary of taking anyone back from our past eg knights ,lets move forward with winners only now.

Matthew Knights.....

Brendan Gale, Wayne Campbell and Richo were all still around in the Knights Era...What do you think about them around the club?

 

[Jimmy6019]

Welcome to RFC Dean Bailey. Excellent football brain and communicator, will be a great asset to the club.

I don't think we can judge him on his Melbourne experience anymore than you can judge Knights on this Essendon experience. Both coaches were massively undermined behind the scenes and were sacrificed as scapegoats at each club by desperate boards. Bailey was always going to be the fall guy, the writing was on the wall as soon as he was ordered to tank by the MFC.

 

[SHIGHT BLOKE]

Great come back mate, your a bigger dud than Bailey. Results paint a picture and Bailey didn't deliver nothing.

A double negative, does that mean he delivered something?

Bailey was a successful assistant. So, who's the dud?

 

[TJTIGER]

At the end of the day, the biggest head that will roll is Hardwick's if there is no improvement and Richmond have a shocking year. I'm not an assistant or ex coach basher, but merely voicing my opinion and you can either like it or lump it.

this is the exact reason that Dimma would not want to even entertain the idea of bringing in someone without substance.

 

[rammbo]

Matthew Knights.....

Brendan Gale, Wayne Campbell and Richo were all still around in the Knights Era...What do you think about them around the club?

Gale and richo seem ok ,i dont rate campbell never hav and i said id b very wary about taking people from a losers culture did not say flat out no way to richmond people ,i would just prefer we didnt risk getting people in with losers baggage.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Well Dean Bailey was a coach at 2 clubs that won premierships before getting the Melbourne job where he was undermined constantly and had to work with Cameron Schwab, not the easiest job around.
He is more then qualified as an assistant.

 

[richolovesgoal]

Well Dean Bailey was a coach at 2 clubs that won premierships before getting the Melbourne job where he was undermined constantly and had to work with Cameron Schwab, not the easiest job around.
He is more then qualified as an assistant.

 

[aNImatedTiger]

A double negative, does that mean he delivered something?

Bailey was a successful assistant. So, who's the dud?

"Successful assistant", mate take those beer goggles off and have an open mind. How do you know he had any bearing on the outcome of those premierships. Just because you have a successful team or company doesn't mean everyone underneath is pulling their weight or are making an impact.
I understand he was there when they won premierships, but judging on his current form ( like we do with our list EG. Morton or Connors) he is classed as a DUD!

 

[TJTIGER]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Bailey was an Assistant at Essendon when they won the flag in 2000 and also an assistant at Port when they won the flag in 2004, wouldn't that equate to a winning culture?

His experience as an assistant is glowing. His experience as a senior coach is well documented. Maybe an assistant role is his niche.

If true, good luck Dean and welcome.

Good call S.B. He was clearly rated and considered experienced enough as an assistant to be given an opp'ity at the next level up. I'm not sure you can really doubt his background there. I guess at this stage we wont know about the support or otherwise he was given at Melb. I think it would be fair to say that the success or failure of a club is not down to one person, but is down to the overall team on and off field. So any suggestion that we'll be heading in the wrong direction with his inclusion is a little overblown in my thinking. In Dimma & his team I trust. Go RFC

 

[Kyusss]

"Successful assistant", mate take those beer goggles off and have an open mind. How do you know he had any bearing on the outcome of those premierships. Just because you have a successful team or company doesn't mean everyone underneath is pulling their weight or are making an impact.
I understand he was there when they won premierships, but judging on his current form ( like we do with our list EG. Morton or Connors) he is classed as a DUD!

Rabble Rabble Rabble dey took er jerbs ! Stoked i found the ignore list

 

[TJTIGER]

Thing is Dimma got to be on the recieving end of what Dean was probably doing at Ess & Port. Which would give him some insight into the man as an assistant and if he believes that that is whats needed at Tigerland at this stage, I trust his judgement based on his experinces.

 

[SHIGHT BLOKE]

"Successful assistant", mate take those beer goggles off and have an open mind. How do you know he had any bearing on the outcome of those premierships. Just because you have a successful team or company doesn't mean everyone underneath is pulling their weight or are making an impact.
I understand he was there when they won premierships, but judging on his current form ( like we do with our list EG. Morton or Connors) he is classed as a DUD!

Judging a player is completely different to judging a coach and it's not something I care to be drawn in on.

Back on topic, now try to stay with me here, it's hard enough to be an assistant coach in one successful era, but to be in two holds credibility.

In order to be successful, you need everything to click. That last line almost resonates out of every camp following a premiership win.

 

[jihg]

"Successful assistant", mate take those beer goggles off and have an open mind. How do you know he had any bearing on the outcome of those premierships. Just because you have a successful team or company doesn't mean everyone underneath is pulling their weight or are making an impact.
I understand he was there when they won premierships, but judging on his current form ( like we do with our list EG. Morton or Connors) he is classed as a DUD!

How do you know he had no impact on those premierships. Judging on his current form he didn't quite make it as a senior coach luckily we have not given him that role.

I think it should also be remembered that the week before his dismissal from Melbourne he was going to be offered an extension and Schwab was going until Schwab threatened to take sponsors with him and the club buckled to his threats.

 

[Dustin Credible]

Thing is Dimma got to be on the recieving end of what Dean was probably doing at Ess & Port. Which would give him some insight into the man as an assistant and if he believes that that is whats needed at Tigerland at this stage, I trust his judgement based on his experinces.

Didn't occur to me that Dimma would've been coached by Bailey.

As many have already said it depends on his role. The good assistant coaches get the head coach jobs, whether they can make the grade at that level is something you only learn with time. Did he fail as a head coach - yes, otherwise he would still be doing it (even if Melbourne's backroom boys have a lot to answer for).

But to get the position in the first place he would have been a talented assistant coach. The only question is how he will cope with going from being the main man to second fiddle. He doesn't strike me as being particularly egotistical, so I don't think it will be a problem. (I think a poster here said he used to play cricket with Dean , Dea Day?, hopefully he can shed some more light on that)

 

[Bojangles17]

ya know my final impressions of bailey when I saw his exit interview from the Demons was a man with alot of class. working for a prick like schwab would be by no menas easy, for him to be a scapegoat and hold his dignity the way he did spoke volumes to me for the mans integrity. I enjoy listening to him on SEN, sounds like an intelligent fellow. He has broard expereince and would also have linkages to dimma through time at ESS and port. So if that makes for a more cordial relationship then im all for it.

GREAT move...bailey and smith will be terrific additions

 

[Heisenberg_]

We still have another 4 new development coaches to sign up for those wanting to widen the net a little.

 

[KiwiTiger]

For what it's worth, I attended lunch at Punt Rd and am, at this point, negotiating the transport system that is Metro on way home from said repas.

Damien was in attendance and was asked re the SEN - Bailey report. He answered that he's had a couple of chats with Dean. He respects his footy intellect and that was that. He also confirmed that JR8 is having his 5th op next week. Big tribute for Maurice Rioli with the function room at the PRD being named in his honour.

Tired. Emotional. Long day.

Haere Ra

 

[Jimmy6019]

Off topic, but WTF! five operations now?? There is no way we should have been playing him!

Perhaps we need to recruit some new medical staff also??

 

[Frank Grimes]

I think this is actually better than us getting Craig.

As the post above says,he was part of the Port and Essendon flags.

A different change in a club with an enormous postive outlook and passionate supporter base might rejuvenate Bailey.

I like this move.

Essendon won the flag in 2000 and Port 2004. While he was coaching Melbourne he has shown that he can't adapt to the modern game plans and structures.

Not to mention that he thinks for a club to get ahead they must tank.

No thanks to Bailey.

 

[KiwiTiger]

Off topic, but WTF! five operations now?? There is no way we should have been playing him!

Yes. KB asked that very question. Coach replied along lines of 60 goals and goal assists trebled, JR8 had a remarkable year.

Coach also said, when asked by Caroline W, whether the players were instructed not to participate in the Footy Show revue, he just played a straight face and said more or less said " what do you think?"

Haere Ra