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MannumPower

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Do psychologists even help ??after numerous sessions with mine he said that I just need to do things that make me happy to overcome my depression . It’s not that ******* simple, I actually feel worse in the two years since I saw my psych than I had in my previous 20 years of depression. I think I just have to keep on pretending everything is ok. Maybe one day it will be ok or it will all be over and done with.
 

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Do psychologists even help ??after numerous sessions with mine he said that I just need to do things that make me happy to overcome my depression . It’s not that ******* simple, I actually feel worse in the two years since I saw my psych than I had in my previous 20 years of depression. I think I just have to keep on pretending everything is ok. Maybe one day it will be ok or it will all be over and done with.
I had one that was sh*t in 2019 and it put me off them entirely. Tried again at the end of last year when I went off the edge a bit, and the progress that I've made with her is beyond what I thought was possible.

Don't let a bad experience put you off them completely.
 

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I don't want to presume for anyone, but the difference between a psychologist and psychiatrist.

I have seen both. When it comes to mental health their is no "one size fits all" cure.

A psychiatrist is a medical Dr who can prescibe meds. Less about talking, more about prescribing. But do a bit of both. You need a GP referral. More expensive but get a Medicare rebate.
A psychologist is not a Dr, it's more about talking through your problems and using non-medicinal techniques. Less expensive, can get a Medicare rebate if your GP puts you on some "plan" that Medicare accept for x amount of sessions.

In my 17 years of treatment I have seen both. FOR ME, psychiatrists have been more effective. I can't talk myself out of my problems. Not saying you can't.

It is a tricky thing, mental health. It is still not fully understood.

A GP is the first port of call, but if you are not getting results, insist on change. I had a GP back in the day who just brushed me off, saying I was ok. I was devestated, it took so much courage for me to seek help and to get dismissed like that set me back a year. I suppose people with mental health issues are good with covering them up. I know I am.
 

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So after struggling my entire life with a plethora of social issues which started causing pretty bad depression and anxiety I'm now being sent for an Autism screening at 31. Would make a lot of sense - I've been called autistic by people my whole life. I always took it as a joke, but I tick pretty much every box except for the flat-voice.
 

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It's such a paradox that we've started to spend all this money on mental health when we still have a welfare policy that is designed to make people broke and miserable. It's like we could treat the cause and give people an amount they could actually live on... but instead we're starting to treat the symptom.

I write this as someone who has discussed his COVID unemployment in this thread and who tonight, for the first time ever, has had to start researching food bank services in my area, cos I literally have 70 cents in my pocket until Monday.
 

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It's such a paradox that we've started to spend all this money on mental health when we still have a welfare policy that is designed to make people broke and miserable. It's like we could treat the cause and give people an amount they could actually live on... but instead we're starting to treat the symptom.

I write this as someone who has discussed his COVID unemployment in this thread and who tonight, for the first time ever, has had to start researching food bank services in my area, cos I literally have 70 cents in my pocket until Monday.
I hear you. I always hear about all this money getting poured into mental health. Where is it going? I know I'm not getting a cent.

I've had to deal with Centrelink recently as my parents were applying for the pension. The front desk people are fine, but they don't make the decisions. It's the people behind the scenes that do all that. They should have the courage to face the people they are dealing with so cruely.
 

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I hear you. I always hear about all this money getting poured into mental health. Where is it going? I know I'm not getting a cent.

I've had to deal with Centrelink recently as my parents were applying for the pension. The front desk people are fine, but they don't make the decisions. It's the people behind the scenes that do all that. They should have the courage to face the people they are dealing with so cruely.
Largely into the below areas in my experience (have a fair bit)

- Addiction treatments (drug, alcohol)
- Pay increases
- Immediate response services (hotlines, domestic violence support)

The money poured in is there but its such a disgraceful amount, it isnt capable of being spread into any place other then the extreme circumstances ie. keeping people alive
 

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So after struggling my entire life with a plethora of social issues which started causing pretty bad depression and anxiety I'm now being sent for an Autism screening at 31. Would make a lot of sense - I've been called autistic by people my whole life. I always took it as a joke, but I tick pretty much every box except for the flat-voice.
Same but what is a screening? And what type of autism? And what kind of help is offered for those in their 30s?

At my age I really don't give a sh*t. I am who I am and muddle along with everyone else.

Go for it be interesting to here what comes of t.

And not having a go but at my age with a shitload of other issues just don't see the benefit. (Sure be nice to know but what's the cost and what is offered after)?

But am just in a funk atm.
 

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Same but what is a screening? And what type of autism? And what kind of help is offered for those in their 30s?

At my age I really don't give a sh*t. I am who I am and muddle along with everyone else.

Go for it be interesting to here what comes of t.

And not having a go but at my age with a shitload of other issues just don't see the benefit. (Sure be nice to know but what's the cost and what is offered after)?

But am just in a funk atm.
I think a screening is just the fancy word for the tests used for an official diagnosis?

Well I haven’t been able to even muddle unfortunately. Most of my adult life has been borderline unliveable.

I haven’t been on a date in 10 years. I have one friend. The longest I’ve kept a job is 2 weeks. The longest I lasted in a course was a month. The last time I did anything social (bar, pub etc) was 2017 and before that it was 2015. I’m 31 and I have missed an entire decade of life because of the issues I’ve faced.

Not just that. I can’t do basic life functions without being completely overwhelmed and breaking down half the time. Things as simple as going to the doctor, grocery store.

Inside my head is a 24/7 loop of self hatred due to the questioning of my own person and why “simple” life things are insanely difficult for me. You start to wonder if you’re just a bum and a lifelong fu** up.

To be told that it’s not my fault and it’s not a personality issue, but a disorder would greatly help me remove some of the self hatred that I’ve lived with for 20+ years that’s become so ingrained in me.

A diagnosis would also help mend relationships with some important people to me that I’ve hurt or disappointed but haven’t been able to explain why.

A diagnosis would get me even some help I know there’s not much for adults on the spectrum. But there’s at least some specialist therapy, support groups etc.
 

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Same but what is a screening? And what type of autism? And what kind of help is offered for those in their 30s?

At my age I really don't give a sh*t. I am who I am and muddle along with everyone else.

Go for it be interesting to here what comes of t.

And not having a go but at my age with a shitload of other issues just don't see the benefit. (Sure be nice to know but what's the cost and what is offered after)?

But am just in a funk atm.
I mentioned this to my psychiatrist, I think I have Aspergers. Which is one of the milder forms of autism. He suspects I do, but there is no point getting an official diagnosis for it. He said it costs around $1500 and you can't get anything from the government like NDIS or anything. You just sort of get an official confirmation.

I do the usual Aspergers things, say things that hurt people or come across as rude when I really don't mean it are my worst traits.

I don't know much about Autism, but I have been told there are so many levels. Which is why they call it a spectrum. Some people are so bad they can't even talk.

EDIT: when I said you don't get anything from the government like NDIS I was told that for Aspergers. Get tested biggiemediums I'm sure you'll get some help.
 
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Caesar

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So lonely. I have people all around me except the person that I need and it’s destroyed me. It’s been over a year. Give it time, they say. It’s gotten more intense
Sounds like chronic grief. I would get help. My mum let herself descend into chronic grief when dad died, and after her friends moved on she really struggled.
 

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So lonely. I have people all around me except the person that I need and it’s destroyed me. It’s been over a year. Give it time, they say. It’s gotten more intense
Best way to overcome chronic grief is to get moving physically. Grief grows off energy so if you can keep active as much as you can it is the first step to help.

After that you will find a bit more mental stamina to undergo therapy. It’s very hard to do so without getting rid of the energy
 

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Best way to overcome chronic grief is to get moving physically. Grief grows off energy so if you can keep active as much as you can it is the first step to help.

After that you will find a bit more mental stamina to undergo therapy. It’s very hard to do so without getting rid of the energy
Energy? I have none
 

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Why do people choose suicide, because they are sick of living with their thoughts, sick of being up and down, sick of their mind telling them how bad they are and reminding them of the mistakes they’ve made. Sick of hiding everything behind a smile or I’m ok . They don’t want to burden people with their problems because they are the problem. They have no one to turn to because they have turned everyone away and the only one who listens is that voice in their head and he doesn’t care.
This is such a hard fight for people and some just don’t understand and never will.
FYI I’m actually ok just need to get stuff out, and this is my outlet. Stay strong everyone.
 

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I’ve never wanted to just leave this earth as badly as I want to now. Another lockdown. I just don’t think I can cope with much more.
Feel for you. I'm the same at times. On top of everything else this last year has broken me. Just shattered ATM.
Hopefully sanity prevails soon.
Would love to give you advice but don't have any. Hang in there.
 

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Feel for you. I'm the same at times. On top of everything else this last year has broken me. Just shattered ATM.
Hopefully sanity prevails soon.
Would love to give you advice but don't have any. Hang in there.
Same with me Perth gal and Run n Spread . I just don't know what to say.
 

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I’ve never wanted to just leave this earth as badly as I want to now. Another lockdown. I just don’t think I can cope with much more.
I know the feeling after last year, don’t give up though! You’ve been a leader in this thread for a long time, & a lot of us value your input/help.....Just take it day by day & keep up the communication. 👍
 

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