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BomberGal said:
I think walking alone would have been horrible for me. Sometimes it's just too much time to think.
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That's what I feel like.


None of the medication I've tried works.

The only time I can feel relaxed is when I drink.

Haven't drank for a while,then I get feelings of anxiety then I just chaindrink coffee.

When I talk on the phone,I do laps of the house.

I can't sit still for one sec.


Anxiety is a killer.

You can't do any ****ing thing.

Your brain spins too much to think.

I ****ing hate it when I'm in that mood like now.:(

Don't want to sleep.

Wait till it's daytime.

Daylight makes me ill also.
 
I wanna get trashed.

I can see why alcoholism is on the rise.


It's a way out for a lot of people who've given up on todays society and how it preaches looking like a supermodel,being rich,all these bullshit capitalistic things.
 
Smasha do you have a good circle of friends? are they rats? are they loyal.. etc? How old are you?
It matters not if you were not good at school. I agree that music is turning to s**t.... but it is like a rat race mate, drummers and traditional band slammers (real musos) will be back bigger and better than ever. It is like the mullet, the flares, white footy boots, shaved head, undercut etccc........ they are never spent forces and who gives a fu*k if the music is turning gay? It does not mean that you cannot still be part of a normal band! I'm assuming that you have a regular gig somewhere?
Even if you are not, just rock on try and use that as your release.
 

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Depression is a terrible thing and you really really cannot understand it until you suffer from it. I guess you would say i had a very mild case of it compared to some but its just a terrible disease that you really have no control over.

You can't just say to someone with depression that the things they are being upset over are trivial and they shouldn't be upset. It unfortunately doesn't work that way. I would find myself so amazingly upset over something as trivial as not being invited to something.

Depression is nasty. The best thing for me was just being around people. Social interaction just kind of takes your mind off things. When your alone, well i did at least, tend to over analyze everything and it just made things worse.
 
Had depression for about a year and it was horrible.

Gained a shitload of weight and pretty much spent all day sitting at home and getting angry with those around me.

Luckily I've managed to sort it out and everything.

The best thing to do is get out and be active in whatever you like. Keep exercising and keep in constant contact with friends and family.

Good luck mate:thumbsu:
 
This thread (more succinctly the replies to it, mostly thanks to Essendon supporting females) is just the shits. Massive LOLs at "Well, replace depression with CANCER!" just the same. "You don't hate...freedom do you?". It is a poor reflection on this site that Mantis hasn't been given the Suzi treatment. Just makes me cringe whenever I see her post.

From what I found (and to pre-empt this, it's my own personal experience, rather than any qualified medical opinion, as such I won't portray it as the universal definition of how people cope with depression or the be all and end all), the biggest positive out of prescription medication for mine, was using them primarily for a placebo effect.

Reminded me of the story of when Crackers Keenan approached a club doctor in a match at 3/4 time, and asked him for a pill to help him lose the pain he felt in his ribs.He gave him some smarties. Crackers was BOG in the last and didn't feel a thing, unaware that he'd taken smarties rather than pain killers.

When I'd taken the benzodiapine (sp?), I often found that the best physical/psychological reactions occurred within seconds, far too soon for the chemicals to take effect, whilst when I took them early in the morning or just before bed, I'd still feel shitful. If you are able to convince yourself that this medication is going to do all this s**t, and make you feel wonderful, then they will work for you too. Otherwise, it's a fair chance that at best, you're simply not going to get any worse.

Otherwise, everything else is up to you to find out what works for you and what doesn't. Certainly not an overnight experience. Best of luck with it.
 
I'm definitely no expert on the subject but spending long periods of time on the computer is something that can have bad effects on you. Even if it's something like Facebook or Myspace. I don't know how much time you spend on the computer/net but i'd try to limit it as much as possible.

BomberGal said:
To make you feel a little better, I think a lot of people do this.
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+1:thumbsu:
 
LondonCalling said:
This thread (more succinctly the replies to it, mostly thanks to Essendon supporting females) is just the shits. Massive LOLs at "Well, replace depression with CANCER!" just the same. "You don't hate...freedom do you?". It is a poor reflection on this site that Mantis hasn't been given the Suzi treatment. Just makes me cringe whenever I see her post.
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The cancer analogy had a point. It was insinuated that depression was not 'real' and does not deserve the treatment it was getting in this thread. It was extreme, but also served to highlight the bigotry of people who just don't understand.
 
No, it doesn't have a point. This is why:

a) You can essentially use "you wouldn't say that if it were cancer" for just about anything. Politics, nuclear proliferation, poverty, gender, the economic crisis. Doesn't mean that the opinion on these issues are any less prevalent or relevant. They are also as much apples to oranges as cancer is to depression.

b) So far, no correlation between depression and cancer has been proven.

c) Such an argument is really only tugging on the heartstrings of posters, in order to paint the OP as being a heartless bastard, rather than prove any point.

d) Comparing cancer to depression (especially without any elaboration as to what aspect of the two illnesses you're comparing) fails to highlight the severity of depression, and probably does more to devalue cancer than anything constructive.
 
long time sufferer here. About 6 years. Still medicated but coping fine. To suggest anti-d's dont work is absurd. You just have to find the right one. Some are better than others for your own needs.
I started out similar to the OP. Down on everything, fetal position, not moving throughout the day, couldnt function, couldnt eat.
Got onto zoloft, felt fine, got off them and symptoms returned about a year later where i had an 'episode'. These days im on Effexor.
Seen councellors for anxiety and depression etc. Im 29 but old school when it comes to this its been a huge part of my life.
Its hard to give advice of exercise, get out and get some sun etc to someone who is depressed. They know that that is what helps. They just cant do it. My advice is to keep trying with different meds. You will find your lust for life will return and help your battles to which your depression came in the first place. And if you suffer from anxiety really badly, then lay off the stimulants like coffee mate ;). If ya need to talk to someone who really has been there and done that, shoot me a PM.
 

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eastcoastcrow said:
Your gaining some exercise and Vitamin D exposure (ie Sunshine) is well know to help alleviate depression.
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I live in London and its very noticeable that people are far happier here in summer rather than winter when there are few hours of daylight. I have seen people who have worked with a special lamp to provide artificial light during the daylight to alleviate this. IIRC depression related to a lack of sunshine is quite prevalent in Scandinavia.
 
had depression in for possibly 10 years from my teens up until now, in varying strengths over that time.
anti-depressants can work, it's true they may not in certain cases, and can be a while before you find one that does. it may also be a case of them simply alleviating rather than curing as it were, stopping you from completely bottoming out and leaving you to do the rest. if someone is interested in getting better and looking for improvement (not all depressed people are, and i understand the lack of motivation), it's probably better to attempt to try medication rather than sit back and say it won't work.

i tend to spend a lot of time in malaise. sort of numb. while i've managed to overcome a few things the OP mentioned recently (quoted below), it sort of evolves. in my mind, depression takes on a path of least resistance... that is there will be something in your life that you can mold your depression around. some people are fat, some people have no friends. sure they might be the reasons, but people go in and out through chemical origins as much as life-changing events. you can solve your life but depression if it remains will find something else to beat you up with.

It's a way out for a lot of people who've given up on todays society and how it preaches looking like a supermodel,being rich,all these bullshit capitalistic things.
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on the surface i agree and understand, but underneath i know there is much more to society than the parts that preach. if i were going to a therapist and saying that (which i once was, but i left), i'd probably be in line for some cognitive behavioural therapy, get fed the famous epictetus quote, "we are disturbed not by events, but by the views which we take of them". if alcoholism is a way out for people from that, it's only because they've chosen to believe that is where all the success in life lies. some of it maybe, but surely not all. plenty of ways to skin a cat, etc etc.

(i binge drink for fun!)

for what it's worth, i also believe happiness is ephemeral and that contentedness is the more natural state.
 
smasha said:
Who couldn't care less if they were run over by a truck today?:(


Who lives in the past and doesn't see anything good in todays society?


Music down the pooper,sport becoming a big business,over population.


Feck,not much to be happy about today.


Not ****ing much at all.

Being a drummer(drummers are now extinct)Richmond supporter doesn't fecking help.


Who gets really down that you don't care?

Anti depressants do feck all.

All they do is help you write yourself off.

Tried alot and none of them work.
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You seem to be disappointed with life, maybe even cheated by it in some way. What is there in your experience of life to indicate that your existence would be any different to what it is? Is it possible your ambitions for what life would provide were always unrealistic?

I know the above doesn't help much, but one has to wonder what might help. I'm aware that those who have not suffered depression have no idea what's involved. Those of us who aren't afflicted only have available to us what is transmitted by sufferers in their words. The major feeling I get from reading your posts is one of profound disappointment at unmet expectations. Maybe life is only s**t in comparison with your expectations? To compare the lives of super models and those of the rich with the one you lead means you're always going to be disappointed. You are not a super model, or incredibly rich. You are a very ordinary person. What's wrong with that? Expressing your dissatisfaction with the hand life has dealt you, tends to impinge on your time available to do more constructive thinking. Still, you can't help that.

Is it possible nobody can do anything, including yourself, to meet your expectations of existence? Might it help if you gave up the idea of being a supermodel, or incredibly rich?

Give yourself different job.
 
I'm very close with a couple people that have had nearly life-ending depression. It truly is a horrible thing.
And it's such a hard thing to give advice on because everyone is different.

Anti-depressants have absolutely worked for some people. But not as well for others. They certainly do help people calm down in my experience and allow them to think rationally.

As for being outside and keeping active. Again, this has worked for one person and not the other. But as Bombergal pointed out, there are times when being outside and around people is a lot worse then being by yourself.

You may just have to keep on trying things, see what works. Some councillors can be very helpful in my experience.

There's also a lot of stuff you have to do yourself as hard as it is. You need to take care of yourself, alcohol won't help, it'll only make things worse. You have to try value yourself. Try to find a hobby or job you are really good at it, that helped one of the people I know start to see the value of themselves.

I hope you get better man. Depression is a ****ing horrible thing.
 
thought i would add to this thread as i can to SOME degree understand what some people here feel and suffer..

i feel like life is routinal, all i ever do is get up, go to school, eat, work and sleep and i rarely find a great amount of satisfaction day-to-day.

i feel as if people are always saying things about me or people gain quick judgements on myself as a person and feel there has been alot said behind my back.

i tend to rely on going out, clubbing or hitting the gym to relieve the stress

i am always thinking about my dad who is dying of lung-cancer- i still treat him poorly and feeling effing s**t for doing so

i feel good one moment and maybe 10-20 mins later i will feel down again

i smoke alot, drink alot do no exercise and have a shocking diet.

i am on the verge of exams in less than four weeks to add to everything else.
 
Adding my own two cents here...

I have suffered a form depression for a little under 10 months now, ever since my Dad committed suicide, also from depression and from a lack of support from various people within his life including myself. Since then while I have never really been on the verge of suicide, I have struggled to "give a s**t" so to speak.

My uni scores are going down badly. And I just cant seem to care.

Its my 21st on Monday. And I dont care.

I have relatives and friends who have tried to make contact with me, and I cant seem to really make an effort to catch up and chat.

I just feel to an extent a little cheated by life. I realise that Im not helping the situation currently but again, Im just going through the motions and would much rather just stay in bed until work starts at 4pm, rather then get up early, exercise, catch up with friends for coffee or meals, get extra study in etc... Im annoyed, and trying to break the habit, but am struggling at the moment. I keep saying next week, or tomorrow, or in an hour I will change. But I cant.

While this may seem like a petulant little attention seeking post, Im actually trying to use this post, and in fact my 21st as a milestone, basically a fork in the road where everthing changes from here. Getting out of bed, exercising, eating better quality food, getting on with life so to speak.

Anyway, yeah... change it will hopefully be...
 
I shattered my heel a few years back and think I've suffered depression but being so old I'm not sure if it's just a mid life crisis. Was given tablets to take but never took them. I don't think I think like most people and I know I lack a lot of moral compassion towards others and would love to be more caring but find it's just not me. Each to their own, chin up and lets get a few more laps around the sun under our belts. :):thumbsu:
 
demondude said:
thought i would add to this thread as i can to SOME degree understand what some people here feel and suffer..

i feel like life is routinal, all i ever do is get up, go to school, eat, work and sleep and i rarely find a great amount of satisfaction day-to-day.

i tend to rely on going out, clubbing or hitting the gym to relieve the stress

i am on the verge of exams in less than four weeks to add to everything else.
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I cut out some parts, because they don't apply to me, but the part I quoted was how I felt late last year. I don't really know how I got out of it, beyond getting some good sleep each night (not feeling like a zombie helps a lot) and just trying my best to enjoy things a bit more. It seems hard now, but hopefully you can get some enjoyment out of life and get out of this rut :thumbsu:
 
My heart goes out to all the people who suffer from depression. I have never suffered depression so cannot relate 100% to some of the things that people are saying.

I guess that everyone is different and everyone has different circumstances which are causing depression. And there are a wide range of different depressions as well. So best advice is to get the best medical advice you can and deal with people who can understand, diagnose properly and help you the best way possible.

Under the general term though of being depressed because of an event or something that has happened or just feeling low(as opposed to suffering from depression), sometimes the following things can make you feel a little better.


1 Challenge your thoughts. What is making you feel down? Try and look at the problem or cause rationally? Is there another way in which you can look at the situation in a more positive way? How about some problem solving and identifying possible solutions? This will make you feel a little bit back in control and help to reduce the feeling of helplessness.

2 Change your behaviour. Do things that you enjoy. See a movie, go out for dinner, play some sport, socialise etc. Any of this will have a two fold effect a)it can make you happy and b)it takes your mind off what is keeping you down.

3 Activity. Activity gets you out of the house and doing something. It can get you to take your mind off the depressive state you are in, and gets you active and focussing on something else. As posters before have mentioned, exercise is a very good help as well. It makes you feel better in body and in spirit. The other advantage of activity is that it gives you a small feeling of self achievement. This is helpful because if you have suffered from feeling depressed or down, chances are that your self esteem is down as well.

4 Goal Setting. Goal setting is one of the main tools of overcoming feeling down. The reason why is that you are focusing your attention onto something that you really want to do, and then taking control by moving towards it. Think about something that you have always wanted to do but never had the chance. Then write down the steps you need to achieve it. Then make a plan to move very slowly towards it. At least this gives you a feeling of being in some sort of control of your destiny and happiness rather than being in a perpetual state of unhappiness.


Anyway, these are very very basic and will probably be not of much use to most people on this thread suffering from depression. But maybe it may be of use to one or two people feeling down, in a depressed state or caught in a rut in their life.

The other thing I forgot to mention. Like another poster said before, restrict your time on the internet. The internet can be a real joy killer as it tends to put things out of perspective as to what is important and not, and being inside most of the time is not conducive to happiness.

My best wishes go to all the people in this thread suffering depression or in a low point in their life.
 
my mum suffers depression and she takes anti-depressents but she feels ashamed taking them because she feels embarrassed that she has depression and its heartbreaking to see her so depressed because i cant do anything about it.
its like a never ending cycle of doom.
but its possible to escape.
 
smasha said:
Life is a lottery.

You either get born with brains and get all the spoils in life or the other way and you are the ridicule of people and struggle all the time.


Doesn't seem fair IMO.
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Yeh well, you grow up imagining that you can do something with your life, and everyone tells you that you can do anything. Then one day, you wake up and realise that you're never going to be anything special. You're just going to be another average joe working an average job to pay the bills and survive. It's hardly worth it at the end of the day.
 
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