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Sounds weak. But I wish my mum was able to just give me a hug and tell me everythings going to be alright.
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Go to bed and sleep. When you wake up you will feel like s**t and want to stay in bed forever. Don't. Don't get up before you are ready but don't sleep in either. Sleep well but not over the top. Get up and even thou you will hate it get on with your day and muddle through. You will lothe it but just punch through. After a while it will become second nature. Then once you are part through the day your brain will be clear and you can think clearer.
If someone has died/you are about to go to jail then you need professional help. Otherwise try and stay moving and you will work out what needs to be done. My advice from experience anyway.
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The days coming off a bender are some of the hardest you will go through. The urge to just blot out the pain with alcohol, drugs, anything, can be so seductive.
Remember that your feelings matter. But what you are feeling NOW won't always be what you feel - they change over time and you need to give yourself some space to process through them. Sleep is a good one for a start, then follow it up with a healthy meal - I always like a medium-rare rump steak and a good serve of veggies. Give your body some fuel and give your mind some space. If you don't feel like cooking, grab some half decent takeaway of a cuisine you enjoy. Be gentle on yourself.
Moving ahead, seek out some professional help - a GP is a good start. Use the Lifeline hotline to get some beginning therapeutic advice too. Try to stay off the beers....you need to try to be in control as best as you can - watching your cash dwindle just adds another layer to your pain, even as it seems to be making you feel better....it's an illusion. When you come back down from your high, the dark waves of reality just swamp you again and again.
Eat, sleep, rinse, repeat for the short term, the next few days. If needed, take some time off work if that's at all possible.
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I can't go to work tomorrow. I simply can't. Can't do the alarm, early morning and putting on a show all week. If it was up to me I'd lay in bed all week. But I have to. For s**t pay. To carry on for a while longer to the next weekend. Rinse and repeat.
(Not s**t pay but s**t enough to afford anything decent in Australia. Really need to move).
(Not s**t pay but s**t enough to afford anything decent in Australia. Really need to move).
Can I ask how old you are?
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Thanks.
I'm 47 diagnosed with depression and on medication since I turned 42. I've got a 6 figure salary, good job, great kids and wife and am paying off a mortgage.
In reasonably good nick for my age, have a full head of hair and no gut
I figured it was a mid life crisis but didn't figure that it would sometimes cripple me with emotion and sometimes suicidal thoughts.
I fake nearly every single day my exterior. I laugh as much as I can, often it's forced laughter which turns into natural laughter and makes me feel better. I force myself to socialise and talk to people, asking a lot of questions etc.
I try as hard as I can to force myself out of feeling depressed, most of the time it works. I always try to keep my mind active, talking, watching tv, listening to music, social media, working in my yard and spending time in my mancave (garage).
If I can pass on something that works for me, stay active and try not to wallow in self pity, it will make you feel worse.
Good luck, try to think positive thoughts mate
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Thanks.
I'm 47 diagnosed with depression and on medication since I turned 42. I've got a 6 figure salary, good job, great kids and wife and am paying off a mortgage.
In reasonably good nick for my age, have a full head of hair and no gut
I figured it was a mid life crisis but didn't figure that it would sometimes cripple me with emotion and sometimes suicidal thoughts.
I fake nearly every single day my exterior. I laugh as much as I can, often it's forced laughter which turns into natural laughter and makes me feel better. I force myself to socialise and talk to people, asking a lot of questions etc.
I try as hard as I can to force myself out of feeling depressed, most of the time it works. I always try to keep my mind active, talking, watching tv, listening to music, social media, working in my yard and spending time in my mancave (garage).
If I can pass on something that works for me, stay active and try not to wallow in self pity, it will make you feel worse.
Good luck, try to think positive thoughts mate
Excellent advice mate
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Thanks.
I'm 47 diagnosed with depression and on medication since I turned 42. I've got a 6 figure salary, good job, great kids and wife and am paying off a mortgage.
In reasonably good nick for my age, have a full head of hair and no gut
I figured it was a mid life crisis but didn't figure that it would sometimes cripple me with emotion and sometimes suicidal thoughts.
I fake nearly every single day my exterior. I laugh as much as I can, often it's forced laughter which turns into natural laughter and makes me feel better. I force myself to socialise and talk to people, asking a lot of questions etc.
I try as hard as I can to force myself out of feeling depressed, most of the time it works. I always try to keep my mind active, talking, watching tv, listening to music, social media, working in my yard and spending time in my mancave (garage).
If I can pass on something that works for me, stay active and try not to wallow in self pity, it will make you feel worse.
Good luck, try to think positive thoughts mate
Very true. And I try to remain aware of the fact this is my problem and not blame others. There are some nice people in the world and I treat people as I find them and thus it pays to internalise. OTH however I will no longer put up with bullshit and if that upsets some so be it. We are all the victim of our own choices (me included).
I am just s**t out of ideas how to improve. But I reckon that happens to all men (people in general). Get to around mid 30ish and you basically are hanging on for dear life so may as well do what you do and enjoy the good times.
A decent night sleep would help.
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it is hard to re-invent yourself but it is possible. Can I ask what things you like doing or would want to be doing?
oh and don't worry about "ideas how to improve". Perhaps I've taken your words out of context but start by thinking "how do I improve my situation" rather improve yourself. I just find self reflection doesn't help unless you are in a good frame of mind.
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Not really. You wake up with the shakes= Balls of Steele. Your liver won't agree Just sleep in with deep breaths till mid day than go about life. It is a funny world and you are simply caught in the middle. Don't stress.
Well I'm 36, and I refuse to think my life has peaked in any way shape or form. I'm someone who has been on Zoloft since I was 24 as I had experienced 6 months of living hell with anxiety/depression.
I think everyone needs to find things to channel positive energy into. For me it's a combination of improving at my job and trying to get fitter and in better shape than I've ever been before.
I still have bouts of it now but now where near as bad, and I do notice when I am feeling that way I get impatient for rapid improvement, like some kind of magic pill to fix things. What I end up realizing is that simply pitting positive steps in place to solve the things you are worried about helps elevate the negativity a lot.
I know everyone is different, but these are just some things that work for me.
I would advise staying clear of drugs and alcohol when down as well. If you find things in life which make you feel good, you will realize how much better that is than going on big benders to numb the pain.
If I am going to have a big night drinking I try to avoid it when I am at a low point.
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Fair question.
But I don't know. I need time to process, rest or whatever. I am unmotivated and clouded. Possibly jaded. Definitely burnt out. Need a rest. But can't afford time off to rest or travel.
Then maybe life can open up and I can have a go at another career change or finding out what I can realistically do.
Am too old, fed up and tired atm to answer thou. Hard in a sense as getting older to a degree I know what I am and what works for me. Problem is these aren't the qualities needed or wanted or from a job sense commercially viable.
Don't see my long term future in Melbourne thou. That is dam sure.
Hi guys! I haven't had read all the comments on this thread but I thought I'd share my experiences and hopefully get some stuff off my chest!
For a while now I've been battling severe anxiety and depression because of my work. I work in an environment that I'm not used to and nor passionate about. I don't have any support at work and my work exposes me to the dark side of society and gives me a bleak outlook on life!
What made it difficult leaving was a family member helped me get the job originally, but it turned out to be nothing like the job described, so for almost 2 years I've been going to work so stressed, sad and generally very uneasy at a workplace that has affected my mentality so much fearing if I quit I'll disappoint them or the family because she wants me to explore the organisation. Where as i really just do not want to be working within that department at all. SO!! just recently I managed to 'man up' and decide for myself to leave. I've booked a trip with my partner for overseas to help get me back on track and spend quality time together. I have mentioned management (Just a team leader) I intend on going whether they approve leave or not. BUT I very much would rather quit on good enough terms and pursue a new career elsewhere where. I have almost 3 months before I leave... should I feel guilty about leaving or use these last few weeks planning and seeing where my life takes me, in an exciting way?
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For a while now I've been battling severe anxiety and depression because of my work. I work in an environment that I'm not used to and nor passionate about. I don't have any support at work and my work exposes me to the dark side of society and gives me a bleak outlook on life!
What made it difficult leaving was a family member helped me get the job originally, but it turned out to be nothing like the job described, so for almost 2 years I've been going to work so stressed, sad and generally very uneasy at a workplace that has affected my mentality so much fearing if I quit I'll disappoint them or the family because she wants me to explore the organisation. Where as i really just do not want to be working within that department at all. SO!! just recently I managed to 'man up' and decide for myself to leave. I've booked a trip with my partner for overseas to help get me back on track and spend quality time together. I have mentioned management (Just a team leader) I intend on going whether they approve leave or not. BUT I very much would rather quit on good enough terms and pursue a new career elsewhere where. I have almost 3 months before I leave... should I feel guilty about leaving or use these last few weeks planning and seeing where my life takes me, in an exciting way?
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Just leave and try to go on good terms. Definitely a bad idea to stay in a job you hate for others. You need to look out for number 1 (as it looks like you are doing)
It's actually amazing how much someone patting your head (in my case stroking my hair) and saying "it'll all be OK" can ease the worst of times. There's really something to that "catastrophising" mindset and wallowing in "what ifs" that meets its match in a mum/gf/wife/friends gentle caring touch.
Because you know what? It WILL be alright. Or it won't. But there's a bloody good chance it won't be as bad as you're thinking it will be.
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Sorry to hear your ex is being awful. Chin up buddy.
I happened to go to a lecture the other day based on Anxiety and Depression and it was one of the best lectures I have been to and I wanted to share it with you awesome people
To try and condense the lecture into a little bit he was talking about how back in 1990 the World health Organisation said that Mental Health is going to be the cause of suicide in a very big way by the year 2020. Now the fact that we are in 2017 and suicide is the second biggest killer after heart attacks is very scary, they predicted it accurately.
Some of the causes which I totally agree with is that social media has a huge effect on people. People go onto Facebook/Twitter, read about other peoples lives and feel that they are leading a better life and this puts people into a state of depression.
Also back in 1945 even though people came back off a second world war, many lost their lives, many lost their loved ones and many lost their homes however people were happier back then that what they are today.
This raised a very important question in my mind, why is that? We have all the luxuries today that people never used to back then, If you want to call someone, you pick up your mobile phone, you call them, you go into whatsapp, or even skype regardless of where they are in the world, people didnt have that luxury back then, people had to write a letter to their loved ones to see how they were.
More people have jobs today compared to back then, women work now as well which wasnt the case back then, we have access to the Internet will all the information that we want which wasnt the case back then and yet why are we so depressed today?
I feel its because our expectations have increased too, we expect to have more, we want more and not happy with what we already have and I think this is the problem, Social media doesnt help our cause but if we recognise these symptoms then we can be on the road to recovery i feel. I have already implemented these ideologies and feel its really helped me.
i have curbed my expectations and stopped comparing myself to what other people have, they may very well have certain things that you envy but then you might have something they dont.
What do you guys think? I would be interested in your thoughts on this?
To try and condense the lecture into a little bit he was talking about how back in 1990 the World health Organisation said that Mental Health is going to be the cause of suicide in a very big way by the year 2020. Now the fact that we are in 2017 and suicide is the second biggest killer after heart attacks is very scary, they predicted it accurately.
Some of the causes which I totally agree with is that social media has a huge effect on people. People go onto Facebook/Twitter, read about other peoples lives and feel that they are leading a better life and this puts people into a state of depression.
Also back in 1945 even though people came back off a second world war, many lost their lives, many lost their loved ones and many lost their homes however people were happier back then that what they are today.
This raised a very important question in my mind, why is that? We have all the luxuries today that people never used to back then, If you want to call someone, you pick up your mobile phone, you call them, you go into whatsapp, or even skype regardless of where they are in the world, people didnt have that luxury back then, people had to write a letter to their loved ones to see how they were.
More people have jobs today compared to back then, women work now as well which wasnt the case back then, we have access to the Internet will all the information that we want which wasnt the case back then and yet why are we so depressed today?
I feel its because our expectations have increased too, we expect to have more, we want more and not happy with what we already have and I think this is the problem, Social media doesnt help our cause but if we recognise these symptoms then we can be on the road to recovery i feel. I have already implemented these ideologies and feel its really helped me.
i have curbed my expectations and stopped comparing myself to what other people have, they may very well have certain things that you envy but then you might have something they dont.
What do you guys think? I would be interested in your thoughts on this?
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I think social media has a lot to do with it, aside from people seeing what others are doing and feeling like they are living a better life, but because it makes people feel excluded.
If members of their family or their friends post photos of them having fun with each other but without them people sometimes feel like they're being left out which can contribute to existing feelings of depression.
Your 100% correct, it can be the feeling of being excluded and not being part of certain events. This is why social media is crucial to depression or lack of, if you can seperate social media from your feelings then you will manage but too many people feel empty as a result without realising why.
Life sucks ass
It's very hard to distinguish what works for people in terms of turning this around..
For me, i've recently watched the entire series of Curb Your Enthusiasm, which deals with so many variations of social interactions and is fixated on various forms of approachability, awkward situations and people, it's almost zen in it's concept as a show, really helped me in not caring when considering doing new things, the worst that can happen is that you might get an awkward moment or something not ideal but at least you have something to talk about and possibly build up quite a few friendships to then talk about all of things that went wrong or right, or just for a laugh. I like that as an idea to go about your daily life kind of.
Also working in a customer service job kind of helped with caring and not caring about what people think. You get to a point where nothing makes you feel quite so bad, because you've already been through a lot of painful stuff. This helps with numbing anxiety and you sort of realise that most people are going through similar crap! all the time, just in varied forms.
I think a nice ideal is to just try and live the life you really want, deep within you, take the time to shape your life, the way you look, the way you feel, fun stuff to do that you like..
Also, stopped watching T.V. ...this really helps, suddenly you have time to read books and do real hobbies, maybe even make time to go out and do social things...
Exercise and diet, refine, refine, refine, until you have a system that works for you in terms of food and research into what would suit your health the most...
example: you can cook soups or healthy meals, (jamie oliver has awsome recipes, you can even get into cooking a bit more and find a new hobby)
Drinking water and tea instead of soft drink or other stronger drinks...
listening to education audiobooks whilst bored, constantly filling in down time with productive things...
minimalistic living space, refine your workspace and living space into an organised mirage that suits you as a person and a character.
Certain things that cause depression might be complex, but the stuff you can control and can embellish or improve easier, if you can improve those things first then it might make the harder things in life a lot easier...
It's like with dating....
- If someone isn't confident then it makes dating difficult.
- Why aren't they confident??
- Maybe they don't have any hobbies, maybe they need to listen and read comedy or positive affirmations until it replaces the whirlwind of negative thoughts...so conditioning self-talk.
- Does the person like/love themselves first, before even thinking about dating, and how does one go about doing that...
- Does the person have interests outside of just work, e.g. ; music, films, games, hobbies, books, whatever...
- Does the person dress classy and cool or maybe the person has zero idea of what their self image is at all, if you find a nice shirt, nice pants, cool clothes then maybe the person will feel a bit better.
- Exercise, health, fitness, sports, important for mind and body..
- TV, very distracting, try switching it off for a bit, work on yourself a bit more.
- Meditation and breathing practices, sounds lame, but maybe it can help.
- The way the person thinks, maybe the way the person is thinking is actually wrong and needs training to think more positive and maybe the negative thinking is irrational and just on infinite loops..
etc...
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Not sure what evidence there is of people being happier in the late 40's. If you were a woman, gay or ethnic things were pretty rough. If you did have any issues there weren't many resources to help you out.
I agree a bit on the social media side of things. Probably a computer thing in general really. Sedentary lifestyle plays a big part.
Social media and the media in general definitely have an impact but I think it relates to how complicated life has become also.
Back in 1945 after the war many people were simply happy to be alive and looked forward to the post-war years where they could build their new lives.
These days I think things just seem a lot more complicated. While we're not in war, there's a ton of doom and gloom out there, there's a lot of people in the world and I think a lot of people just get consumed by it all. Relating it back to media, TV etc and social, that definitely also impacts on the amount of pressure there is on everyone to become something. As a kid growing up in the dawn of this new social media era at times it can definitely feel like you're failing if you're simply living an ordinary life.
