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WOW!! 1st impressions? This game is scaring the ****ing crap out of me!!! Dim the lights, let the 5.1 surround sound goodness take hold and DAMN!! Had to stop after 30 mins, or else i'd end up in the cardiac ward.

That's it, i've had my rest ... back into it!!
 
Originally posted by captain-boomer
I just upgraded my PC to run it
:D
3.1 Gigahertz
Radeon POWERCOLOR 9800 Pro.

I got the game and it runs like a dream witn 1024x800 res.
:D
This game is scary **** though, BEWARE.

How much for the graphics card? I need an upgraded graphics card to run SCPT.
 
Bah. It will never beat games like Morrowwind, Heroes III and IV StarCraft, Diablo II, Wing Commander (all of them), Civ II and III and MoO II.

Don't care how good the graphics are in Doom III. I want a game that you can play time and time again. FPS do not have that replay value like the games I had mentioned.
 

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Originally posted by 3rdEchelon
I should just go get a console.
Yep, I got fed up and got an Xbox... $300 with Halo. Great graphics, Xbox live is awesome, fantastic games, and not continually having to upgrade hardware.

I usually hire games from the video store for a weekend and if I really like them I buy them (ie Rainbox Six 3, Halo, Splinter Cell PT). So many games look great but either the gameplay is poor or they are over before they started.
 
Originally posted by Thrawn
Bah. It will never beat games like Morrowwind, Heroes III and IV StarCraft, Diablo II, Wing Commander (all of them), Civ II and III and MoO II.

Don't care how good the graphics are in Doom III. I want a game that you can play time and time again. FPS do not have that replay value like the games I had mentioned.

Civ 1 > All.
 
Originally posted by Thrawn
Bah. It will never beat games like Morrowwind, Heroes III and IV StarCraft, Diablo II, Wing Commander (all of them), Civ II and III and MoO II.

Don't care how good the graphics are in Doom III. I want a game that you can play time and time again. FPS do not have that replay value like the games I had mentioned.

Nail. Hammer. Head.

Most gamers don't even realise they've been playing variations of the same sh*t for the last 5 or more years!
 
Ironic.

"Variations of the same s**t are terrible!"
"Hooray for Morrowind (the third in the series), Heroes III and IV (which ripped off Master of Magic anyway), StarCraft (third in the series), Diablo II (sequel, and merely a graphical nethack), Wing Commander (okay, that one can get through), Civ II and III. and MoO II (third in the series, and rip-off of Civ anyway)!"

I'm not bagging those games - I'm bagging people who think anything in that list (except Wing Commander) is not simply a variation on the same stuff.

On a sidenote, Diablo II has very little replay value for me - I played fifty hours of Diablo I and got bored with II very very quickly. Go play Neverwinter Nights instead.

And Doom III may not have replay value in itself, but the fan modifications certainly will.
I'm not a big FPS fan, but seriously, try to think before you talk.
 
Originally posted by nonchalance

"Variations of the same s**t are terrible!"
"Hooray for Morrowind (the third in the series), Heroes III and IV (which ripped off Master of Magic anyway), StarCraft (third in the series), Diablo II (sequel, and merely a graphical nethack), Wing Commander (okay, that one can get through), Civ II and III. and MoO II (third in the series, and rip-off of Civ anyway)!"

Whether or not games have been ripped off from others has nothing to do with replay value. And MoO II is sort of like Civ, except you try and take over an entire galaxy and have fleets of ships instead of riflemen. Same principles, different genre. However, strategey games have a much higher replay value than FPS. I'll include RPGs too, including Ultima Online.

I'm not bagging those games - I'm bagging people who think anything in that list (except Wing Commander) is not simply a variation on the same stuff.

Most games are. That's irrelevant to replay value though.

On a sidenote, Diablo II has very little replay value for me - I played fifty hours of Diablo I and got bored with II very very quickly. Go play Neverwinter Nights instead.

Morrowind is better. However, Diablo II's replay value comes from finding better items, and leveling up. This look sawy of me for a while but I'm not playing it anymore.

And Doom III may not have replay value in itself, but the fan modifications certainly will.

Most RPG games and strategy games have their own mods.

I'm not a big FPS fan, but seriously, try to think before you talk.

Is this directed at me or Pablo? Whether or not games are variations of others has got nothing to do with their replay value. There is not much variety in FPS games (that is, in playing it), not on the same level as RPGs and games like StarCraft. There are mods, but we're just talking about the actual game in full. That's because these games have more features, more interactions.
 
the replay value for any fps (or any game for that matter) comes from the multiplayer, i.e. the online play.
get broadband and the longevity of any game increases.
 
Bloody computing. You buy yourself what you consider to be a great system, and a year later you're badly wanting to upgrade! I've got a P4 2.4GHz (800MHz FSB but crappy P4PE mobo), 512 MB DDR400 RAM with a GeForce 4 Ti 4800SE. It's been great for SCPT, Max Payne 2, XIII, etc, and will play Doom 3 but it's not going to be long before the games' requirements outstrip it.

I s'pose that's the nature of the beast though. Hoping to get Doom 3 next week, I wanna be scared!
 
Entire post was directed at Pablo, Thrawn. The replay value of those games (other than Diablo II) is undisputed and excellent, although I still challenge you to find any game with more replay value than NWN - fan created custom content for that game is very very impressive, and multiplayer adds a lot.

As Abaddon said, the FPS replay value is entirely in the multiplayer - and fan mods, which are almost always massively more impressive than the RPG or strategy mods (with the exceptions of NWN, Morrowind, Dungeon Siege and Warlords III).

When you say RPGs and strategy games have much more replay value than FPS, what I see is personal preference, not truth.
Incidentally, on the 'FPS fan mods are just basic variations on the same thing' - check these out - I'm not saying any of these are good, because I haven't played most of them - as I said, not a big FPS fan.
Quake Rally - a racing game, which is a Quake 3 mod.
Bid For Power - a Dragonball-like game, again a Quake 3 mod.
Alien Swarm - turns Unreal Tournament 2004 into an overhead-view squad-based tactical shooter.
Deathball - A sports game, UT2004 mod.

What I'm saying is that just because YOU don't like a particular genre, does not mean that it is stupid, mindless, one-dimensional, or any other epithet suggesting that it doesn't require intelligence.
 

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Originally posted by Higgs Bosun
Bloody computing. You buy yourself what you consider to be a great system, and a year later you're badly wanting to upgrade! I've got a P4 2.4GHz (800MHz FSB but crappy P4PE mobo), 512 MB DDR400 RAM with a GeForce 4 Ti 4800SE. It's been great for SCPT, Max Payne 2, XIII, etc, and will play Doom 3 but it's not going to be long before the games' requirements outstrip it.

I s'pose that's the nature of the beast though. Hoping to get Doom 3 next week, I wanna be scared!
Why waste your money? Get an XBox for $200 and never have to upgrade.

Playing the XBox version on a big screen tv in the dark with true 5.1 surround sound will be far scarier than playing on a PC.
 
Originally posted by likka
Why waste your money? Get an XBox for $200 and never have to upgrade.

Playing the XBox version on a big screen tv in the dark with true 5.1 surround sound will be far scarier than playing on a PC.

Ah yeah, love that low low resolution.
True surround sound is doable on the PC, as is big screen, as is 'the dark'.
And you'll have to upgrade your Xbox in a couple of years when the one you have becomes a paperweight.

Also, have you ever tried to run Photoshop on an Xbox? Just doesn't work too well.
 
Originally posted by likka
Why waste your money? Get an XBox for $200 and never have to upgrade.

Playing the XBox version on a big screen tv in the dark with true 5.1 surround sound will be far scarier than playing on a PC.

Nah, I hear what you're saying, but I can't stand playing FPS games with a keypad -- mouse and keyboard is the way to go, it's a far superior set-up IMO.

Playing sports sims like soccer and driving games, well that's a completely different story.
 
Originally posted by nonchalance
Incidentally, on the 'FPS fan mods are just basic variations on the same thing' - check these out -

What I'm saying is that just because YOU don't like a particular genre, does not mean that it is stupid, mindless, one-dimensional, or any other epithet suggesting that it doesn't require intelligence.

Please find somewhere where I said mods were basic variations on the same thing. I was referring to the games themselves. The concept is the same throughout - shoot stuff and get better weapons. The only advancement in this time has been interacting with other elements in the environment, i.e. vehicles.

As for the online element, jump on a normal server, and then count all the people using cheats/hacks. Great replay value there. FPS' are nothing but mindless entertainment for the lemmings. Hopefully by the time Half Life 2 comes out, many of these lemmings will grow tired of playing the same game over and over and try something different.

Want to explain to me why games like the Championship Manager series are so popular across the world? I'll tell you why, because it's everything an FPS isn't.
 

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Originally posted by Higgs Bosun
Bloody computing. You buy yourself what you consider to be a great system, and a year later you're badly wanting to upgrade! I've got a P4 2.4GHz (800MHz FSB but crappy P4PE mobo), 512 MB DDR400 RAM with a GeForce 4 Ti 4800SE. It's been great for SCPT, Max Payne 2, XIII, etc, and will play Doom 3 but it's not going to be long before the games' requirements outstrip it.

I s'pose that's the nature of the beast though. Hoping to get Doom 3 next week, I wanna be scared!

try selling them. with all those details you probably already do;)
 
Originally posted by Ron
ewww
fps on a console.
no point at all to it, not nearly as good as playing it on a pc.

You I agree, unless you have like a playstation keyboard and mouse and a desk to play it on.

What the heck, PC is the FPS God.
 
try to get yourself a nostromo n45 or belkin type joystick i picked one up for 25 bucks and it has more programmable buttons than you can think of also available the gaming mouse and glove.
 
Well for those who are interested in Doom 3, are in WA, and don't have a good enough computer, Harvey Norman is selling a Doom 3 bundle that has the Doom 3 game itself, an nVIDIA GeForce MX4000 128MB Video Card, and a bonus Baron of Hell figurine for $149.
 
3rdEchelon said:
Well for those who are interested in Doom 3, are in WA, and don't have a good enough computer, Harvey Norman is selling a Doom 3 bundle that has the Doom 3 game itself, an nVIDIA GeForce MX4000 128MB Video Card, and a bonus Baron of Hell figurine for $149.

Even that video card would struggle to run Doom 3 all that well.
 

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