Rumour Draft Rumours 2025

[Pure_Ownage]

Dovaston at 13 and pass on Williams if there’s a bid in the first or early second round would be my preference.

I suspect WCE think Banfield won’t require a points match or will get to Cat A.

Yeah dovaston would fit well for you actually. Do you think you would pass on Williams if Geelong or another team bid in that range? Personally id rather we bid on addinsall or Murray but Williams is a Wells type.
How many cat a/b rookie spots do you guys have?

 

[bulldogs201616]

The draft is a day away. Here’s who your club is set to pick

Here’s our final forecast of how the first 30 picks at this week’s AFL draft will play out.

www.theage.com.au

Any chance you can copy and paste the article? Its behind a pay wall. Thanks mate

 

[eaglevision]

Yeah dovaston would fit well for you actually. Do you think you would pass on Williams if Geelong or another team bid in that range? Personally id rather we bid on addinsall or Murray but Williams is a Wells type.
How many cat a/b rookie spots do you guys have?

As far as we know:
33 main list
4 Cat As but expect Champion to change from Cat B to Cat A as well as addition of Robertson to make 5 Cat As minimum
1 Cat B (Champion) but expect Champion to move opening the 2 spots for Evans and Walley

I expect our draft strategy to be 13,34,41 for 9 and 54.

1-Duursma
2-CDT
9-Best available
Match Williams with 54, deficit if needed
Match Banfield for free or Cat A
Evans and Walley Cat B
Take pick 1 in the rookie draft
Add Robertson & McCrae Cat A via SSP
One spot for train on

 

[Stamos]

Any chance you can copy and paste the article? Its behind a pay wall. Thanks mate

I’m not allowed to post the archive link, but if you post the above link into archive you can see it

 

[iambrilliant]

I’m not allowed to post the archive link, but if you post the above link into archive you can see it

What do you mean posting it into “archive” ? Forgive my ignorance

 

[Stamos]

What do you mean posting it into “archive” ? Forgive my ignorance

archive.ph

 

[Keystone agony]

There are some rumours Geelong will go for him at 19 though I hope we dont. The Eagles also want banfield although he might get through to RD

It will still cover it

 

[THE_GUN]

As far as we know:
33 main list
5 Cat As but expect Champion to change from Cat B to Cat A as well as addition of Robertson to make 6 Cat As minimum
1 Cat B (Champion) but expect Champion to move opening the 2 spots for Evans and Walley

I expect our draft strategy to be 13,34,41 for 9 and 54.

1-Duursma
2-CDT
9-Best available
Match Williams with 54, deficit if needed
Match Banfield for free or Cat A
Evans and Walley Cat B
Take pick 1 in the rookie draft
Add Robertson & McCrae Cat A via SSP
One spot for train on

Regarding Eagles/ Blues trade you posted above 13,34,41 for 9 and 54.
That works for both clubs apart from early bids for the eagles academy/FS points

I just dont get why the eagles wouldnt do a deal with the blues prior to today for the pick #53 which could come into #46/#47 which would be worth 120 points something like #53 + #80 for #72 + #87 rather than trading it to the doggies for a nothing pick next year

 

[marcmurphy3]

Regarding Eagles/ Blues trade you posted above 13,34,41 for 9 and 54.
That works for both clubs apart from early bids for the eagles academy/FS points

I just dont get why the eagles wouldnt do a deal with the blues prior to today for the pick #53 which could come into #46/#47 which would be worth 120 points something like #53 + #80 for #72 + #87 rather than trading it to the doggies for a nothing pick next year.

I assume neither us or the Eagles have the list spots available to take that pick to the draft. So Eagles have essentially given it away in exchange for some good will.

 

[Keystone agony]

Regarding Eagles/ Blues trade you posted above 13,34,41 for 9 and 54.
That works for both clubs apart from early bids for the eagles academy/FS points

I just dont get why the eagles wouldnt do a deal with the blues prior to today for the pick #53 which could come into #46/#47 which would be worth 120 points something like #53 + #80 for #72 + #87 rather than trading it to the doggies for a nothing pick next year

Because carlton dont have the list spots for all those picks

And theres no point them trading points for points

If you help someone else, they need to help you. Give - give

Plus eagles having 1,2,9,54 means they miss T.Williams if the rumours of 1st round bids are true and even 2nd round bid hurts puts their future 2nd likely pick 19 into deficit and moves it back

 

[THE_GUN]

Because carlton dont have the list spots for all those picks

And theres no point them trading points for points

If you help someone else, they need to help you. Give - give

Out :
Jaxon Binns (del)
Alex Cincotta (del)
Charlie Curnow (trd)
Tom De Koning (FA)
Sam Docherty (ret)
Corey Durdin (trd)
Orazio Fantasia (del)
Elijah Hollands (del)
Harry Lemmey (del)
Jack Silvagni (FA)
Will White (del)

Who did they get
Dawson , Florent , ??

Their picks are 9, 11, 43, 54, 67, 72, 87, 105
#53 could have slotted in as their last pick wiping out the rest

 

[eaglevision]

Regarding Eagles/ Blues trade you posted above 13,34,41 for 9 and 54.
That works for both clubs apart from early bids for the eagles academy/FS points

I just dont get why the eagles wouldnt do a deal with the blues prior to today for the pick #53 which could come into #46/#47 which would be worth 120 points something like #53 + #80 for #72 + #87 rather than trading it to the doggies for a nothing pick next year

I wouldn’t want to match an early bid and I hope we don’t. Dovaston with 9 and then use what ends up a pick in the mid 40s on a Curtin/Dalton type would be far more preferable than say Farrow at 9 and early Williams bid match.

 

[BluesForEternity]

Out :
Jaxon Binns (del)
Alex Cincotta (del)
Charlie Curnow (trd)
Tom De Koning (FA)
Sam Docherty (ret)
Corey Durdin (trd)
Orazio Fantasia (del)
Elijah Hollands (del)
Harry Lemmey (del)
Jack Silvagni (FA)
Will White (del)

Who did they get
Dawson , Florent , ??

Their picks are 9, 11, 43, 54, 67, 72, 87, 105
#53 could have slotted in as their last pick wiping out the rest

We have exactly four list spots remaining. Picked up Campbell Chesser, Liam Reidy, Ainsworth, Florent, Hayward. We also had two people join as SSPs and two join as MSD in 2025 (friendly reminder to everyone how injured our list was...), so had a huge surplus of players on our list.

 

[Keystone agony]

Out :
Jaxon Binns (del)
Alex Cincotta (del)
Charlie Curnow (trd)
Tom De Koning (FA)
Sam Docherty (ret)
Corey Durdin (trd)
Orazio Fantasia (del)
Elijah Hollands (del)
Harry Lemmey (del)
Jack Silvagni (FA)
Will White (del)

Who did they get
Dawson , Florent , ??

Their picks are 9, 11, 43, 54, 67, 72, 87, 105
#53 could have slotted in as their last pick wiping out the rest

Reidy, chesser, ainsworth

Draftguru says they have 32/6

Meaning 4 open spots

9,11, 43 and 54

 

[Keystone agony]

So carlton are moving 9 to 13 with no futures so eagles dont bid on dean at 2?

Just so tigers can bid on him at 3?

 

[Wrenny]

So carlton are moving 9 to 13 with no futures so eagles dont bid on dean at 2?

Just so tigers can bid on him at 3?

 

[THE_GUN]

So carlton are moving 9 to 13 with no futures so eagles dont bid on dean at 2?

Just so tigers can bid on him at 3?

Cant believe people actually think this type of blackmail happens
Sure there are things that do happen like the eagles wont bid on lions kids due to the trade they have done or other intangibles but i doubt the above happen.

There would need to be some dressing up of it of sorts
something like #13 + #34 + #51 +F3 for #9 + #41 + #54 + F4

 

[marcmurphy3]

So carlton are moving 9 to 13 with no futures so eagles dont bid on dean at 2?

Just so tigers can bid on him at 3?

If we get 13, 34, 41 (1660) for 9, 52 (1397) we will be 263 points better off. More once the picks come down after bid matching.

In addition a bid 2 match would cost us 2481 points. Bid 3 would be 2178. Save another 203 points there at a minimum. Westcoast probably bids on Uwland. Knocks Dean down further. Another 216 points saved. Up to 419.

Then there is no guarantee Richmond bid on Dean first up. Annable and Patterson are rated higher by most draft watchers.

Overall, could benefit Carlton by up to 1000 points or so.

Dean should not really attract a bid at 2 in the first place. Westcoast would be extorting us, but there is enough in it for us to give in.

I think its a deal we'd look at anyway, but the guarantee of avoiding a top 3 bid would be the cherry on top.

 

[THE_GUN]

If we get 13, 34, 41 (1660) for 9, 52 (1397) we will be 263 points better off. More once the picks come down after bid matching.

Thats a great deal for Carlton but wipes out the eagles ability to match any of their Academy/FS kids

 

[eaglevision]

So carlton are moving 9 to 13 with no futures so eagles dont bid on dean at 2?

Just so tigers can bid on him at 3?

We could in theory change a Dean bid at pick 1 to a bid at pick 6 at the earliest by bidding on Uwland, Patterson and Annable.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Thats a great deal for Carlton but wipes out the eagles ability to match any of their Academy/FS kids

I wouldnt say its a great deal. I think it'd work for both parties.

Moving up 4 spots into the top 10, can make a big difference regarding calibre of player available. If Eagles move up it'll be to get a player, that probably won't be available at 13.

From everything I've read their f/s aren't rated that highly. Shouldn't have an issue with points. They also got 2 F2s and an F3, they could trade back in, if an unusually early bid came. Thats if they still want to match.

I reckon getting the player they want with their 3rd pick, would top the priority list, over any late bid matching if it came to it.

 

[txbyhull]

I wouldnt say its a great deal. I think it'd work for both parties.

Moving up 4 spots into the top 10, can make a big difference regarding calibre of player available. If Eagles move up it'll be to get a player, that probably won't be available at 13.

From everything I've read their f/s aren't rated that highly. Shouldn't have an issue with points. They also got 2 F2s and an F3, they could trade back in, if an unusually early bid came. Thats if they still want to match.

I reckon getting the player they want with their 3rd pick, would be top the priority list.

I'd disagree with a little bit of this. There's not really anyone worthy of trading up for ahead of time, and the fact a Dean bid could come very late in the top 8 means theres a high chance anyone the eagles think will slide doesnt.

Our tied talent isnt unanimously rated highly but theres a chance a bid for Williams comes around the 20 range give or take a few.

 

[THE_GUN]

I wouldnt say its a great deal. I think it'd work for both parties.

Moving up 4 spots into the top 10, can make a big difference regarding calibre of player available. If Eagles move up it'll be to get a player, that probably won't be available at 13.

From everything I've read their f/s aren't rated that highly. Shouldn't have an issue with points. They also got 2 F2s and an F3, they could trade back in, if an unusually early bid came. Thats if they still want to match.

I reckon getting the player they want with their 3rd pick, would be top the priority list.

I really cant see a massive difference in the caliber of player between 9-13 thb
the gap between 7/8 to seems to be where it splits into another tier that include Dovaston,Farrow,Lindsay range

 

[marcmurphy3]

I'd disagree with a little bit of this. There's not really anyone worthy of trading up for ahead of time, and the fact a Dean bid could come very late in the top 8 means theres a high chance anyone the eagles think will slide doesnt.

Our tied talent isnt unanimously rated highly but theres a chance a bid for Williams comes around the 20 range give or take a few.

To be honest you wouldn't know and neither would I. Unless you have seen the Eagles draft board. While the top consensus top group might be 7 or 8 players, that doesn't mean the eagles rate the next group equally.

If WC trade for 9 it'll be to grab a player that might otherwise not be available. If they see no difference then they can stick with 13.

 

[txbyhull]

To be honest you wouldn't know and neither would I. Unless you have seen the Eagles draft board. While the top consensus top group might be 7 or 8 players, that doesn't mean the eagles rate the next group equally.

If WC trade for 9 it'll be to grab a player that might otherwise not be available. If they see no difference then they can stick with 13.

well... yeah? nosh? I was just saying that in my opinion that next group of players after Sharp and Cumming are pretty middling, and the likelihood of us trading up I would hope would be live in the event one of those 2 looks like they'll slide