List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[Ambrose Burnside]

Is it clear cut for CDT at pick 2?

I think if we keep Picks 1 and 2, we're going Duursma and CDT.

 

[amazingjoshy]

I cant really be bothered listening to it, but what how could he reasonably explain skipping the best talent ?

Listened to a bit and basically he doesn't rate Duursma but his reasoning isnt great

Compares him to Scully and reckons he wont thrive in a bad team. Then has Richmond taking him....

 

[TerryFilk]

Is it clear cut for CDT at pick 2? There seems to be some whispers that he could slide. I know there is plenty of love on here for Sharp, but I feel like it will come down to CDT vs Robey at pick 2.

CDT had plenty of haters on here for a long time but some have come around now. Robey hasn’t got the runs on the board but when things clicked for him late in the season it was very impressive. All draftees are speculative, but these two have plenty of question marks to go along with their high ceiling.

So if you sat in the Eagles final draft meeting, and had the last say to split the vote between Robey and CDT, who would you take?

CDT the athletic freak ‘unicorn’ ruck/forward, who lacks ruck craft, but then does it matter? Tim English coming off AA went almost a full season without winning a hit out differential. Our tall forward prospects are strong so where do we play him? Or do you just back the talent regardless? New ruck rules and extended interchange, versatility can’t be a bad thing? If Luke Jackson can play as a part time midfielder then maybe CDT can too.

Robey the prototype explosive, physical big bodied mid/forward. Small sample size of his best form but it came at the right time. Is he a flash in the pan or can we cut him some slack due to a huge growth spurt and role change? We need mids so badly, but is he the right type with Harley and Elijah, or again do we back the talent and the more the merrier attacking mids to suit our run and gun game plan? If he doesn’t cut it as a full time mid maybe he ends up as a Zurhaar/Stringer type, best case he could be in the Petracca/De Goey mould.

FWIW I don’t mind the idea of splitting and taking Sharp/Cumming at 5 & 6. But I’m curious if it came down to Robey vs CDT who people would pick as both are maligned in their own way. Especially if we weren’t sure to land another decent mid with our next pick and with Duursma possibly being more of a utility than a pure mid.

For that reason it would sway me to Robey. We need midfielders more than KPP, and as has been mentioned there is good ruck prospects in the next 1-2 years.

Would love to move 13 up to 9 and have Sharp slide there, end up with Duursma, Robey and Sharp. But more likely we might land Farrow at our third pick which would still be okay.

I think Robey is a hell of a lot more boom or bust than CDT personally, I’m a Robey fan but I also don’t really get why he’s being labelled as some sort of explosive athlete or player because he isn’t and that’s what worries me.

I love a good bolter but him playing like 5 good games of football against average competition is scary stuff, especially when a lot of his highlights are just him as a half forward matched up on a smaller defender kicking pretty easy goals.

 

[TerryFilk]

I think if we keep Picks 1 and 2, we're going Duursma and CDT.

Yeah, I think if we’re not taking CDT we’ll be splitting

To me I think it’s very clear our board is

1. Duursma
2. CDT
3. Sharp

But we recognise we need Sharp more, so first we’ll try and move up from 13 to take Sharp and if we can’t do that I suspect we’ll consider splitting 2 for Sharp and someone else whilst maybe picking someone at 13 or moving that or the other pick from the pick 2 split into next year.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Listened to a bit and basically he doesn't rate Duursma but his reasoning isnt great

Compares him to Scully and reckons he wont thrive in a bad team. Then has Richmond taking him....

Scully Catching a lot of strays on this board. He was a very good player before he dislocated his ankle.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Assuming we pick up CDT we need to give him the keys to the ruck/ 4 mid straight away. If we are investing heavily into a Luke Jackson lite roll he needs to be developed and given the keys asap more reps he gets the better long term

CDT won't be a viable ruck or KPF in his first few years. His development curve would need to be huge.

 

[Keys]

Is it clear cut for CDT at pick 2? There seems to be some whispers that he could slide. I know there is plenty of love on here for Sharp, but I feel like it will come down to CDT vs Robey at pick 2.

CDT had plenty of haters on here for a long time but some have come around now. Robey hasn’t got the runs on the board but when things clicked for him late in the season it was very impressive. All draftees are speculative, but these two have plenty of question marks to go along with their high ceiling.

So if you sat in the Eagles final draft meeting, and had the last say to split the vote between Robey and CDT, who would you take?

CDT the athletic freak ‘unicorn’ ruck/forward, who lacks ruck craft, but then does it matter? Tim English coming off AA went almost a full season without winning a hit out differential. Our tall forward prospects are strong so where do we play him? Or do you just back the talent regardless? New ruck rules and extended interchange, versatility can’t be a bad thing? If Luke Jackson can play as a part time midfielder then maybe CDT can too.

Robey the prototype explosive, physical big bodied mid/forward. Small sample size of his best form but it came at the right time. Is he a flash in the pan or can we cut him some slack due to a huge growth spurt and role change? We need mids so badly, but is he the right type with Harley and Elijah, or again do we back the talent and the more the merrier attacking mids to suit our run and gun game plan? If he doesn’t cut it as a full time mid maybe he ends up as a Zurhaar/Stringer type, best case he could be in the Petracca/De Goey mould.

FWIW I don’t mind the idea of splitting and taking Sharp/Cumming at 5 & 6. But I’m curious if it came down to Robey vs CDT who people would pick as both are maligned in their own way. Especially if we weren’t sure to land another decent mid with our next pick and with Duursma possibly being more of a utility than a pure mid.

For that reason it would sway me to Robey. We need midfielders more than KPP, and as has been mentioned there is good ruck prospects in the next 1-2 years.

Would love to move 13 up to 9 and have Sharp slide there, end up with Duursma, Robey and Sharp. But more likely we might land Farrow at our third pick which would still be okay.

In the media at least it seems pretty widely expected we’ll take CDT at 2 - whether that’s actually the case or the club has done an outstanding misdirection job I’ve no idea.

On that basis, I’ve decided to accept the probability we take CDT at 2 and trust that the people who’ve been following these kids for years and done a shitload of background are better informed than me to make the right call.

Now a binary choice between Robey and CDT, I’m taking the ruckman on the basis of two years plus of evidence over two months. Robey could be anything, but he could also be nothing and we don’t have the luxury of taking that risk

My overwhelming preference is we trade down from 2 to 5 in order to get one of Sharp or Cumming (not fussed which) plus whatever extra asset(s) we can squeeze out of Essendon. What that might be I’m not sure but I doubt very much we get both 5 and 6 - but if Essendon get pick 15 off Gold Coast as is being mooted and then ontrade that for a F1 pick from say St Kilda who might think Phillipou the younger is a chance at that pick 15

As for pick 9 I don’t think we will be able to get that off Carlton - our best case scenario there is they hold their two picks to match a Dean bid and take the late R1 pick they get back to use on another player. That means our pick 13 in the open pool becomes pick 11 giving us a better chance at either Dovaston or Farrow

If we walk away from night one with:

• Duursma
• Sharp/Cumming
• Dovaston/Farrow

plus a F1 pick tied to a probable mid table team then I’d be more than happy.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Worked before.

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Clearly got talent, get him on the track and drop the baby fat and we could have ourselves a winner. McGovern Mk II.

Are you talking about JW?

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Assuming we pick up CDT we need to give him the keys to the ruck/ 4 mid straight away. If we are investing heavily into a Luke Jackson lite roll he needs to be developed and given the keys asap more reps he gets the better long term

Think Caddy on steroids !!

 

[Monsterdarlz]

CDT won't be a viable ruck or KPF in his first few years. His development curve would need to be huge.

Agreed but if hes played he needs aome exposure as a ruck and running arpumd the middle

 

[txbyhull]

If CDT learnt to take a ****ing mark we’d have our own Sam Darcy

 

[garlic munchers]

If CDT learnt to take a ****ing mark we’d have our own Sam Darcy

And if he doesn’t we could have our own Luke Jackson…….. can’t lose!

 

[txbyhull]

And if he doesn’t we could have our own Luke Jackson…….. can’t lose!

Personally don’t think he ever ends up as Jackson. Just look at their HO numbers at u18 level. Think he’s somehow more Luke Jackson than Luke Jackson is, if that makes any sense. More Blicavs than Jackson

 

[Goroyals22]

No idea how good this guy is but it’s a decent analysis of our options.

 

[ep2018]

Would be a bad trade but if we really did want Sharp etc we may do an unders trade of pick 2 for pick 5 and a F2 with Essendon.

 

[Barrybran]

Would be a bad trade but if we really did want Sharp etc we may do an unders trade of pick 2 for pick 5 and a F2 with Essendon.

I tend to agree with Keys in that we would at least want an F1

 

[amazingjoshy]

Scully Catching a lot of strays on this board. He was a very good player before he dislocated his ankle.

I didn't use Scully as the comparison, the guy on that video did. The comparison was in regards to him struggling in a bad team just like Scully did (according to him)

I clearly said i didn't agree or like his reasoning at all

 

[twce13]

I think Robey is a hell of a lot more boom or bust than CDT personally, I’m a Robey fan but I also don’t really get why he’s being labelled as some sort of explosive athlete or player because he isn’t and that’s what worries me.

I love a good bolter but him playing like 5 good games of football against average competition is scary stuff, especially when a lot of his highlights are just him as a half forward matched up on a smaller defender kicking pretty easy goals.

Agreed. He was great in that month of footy but still there was a distinct lack of consistent ball winning from the centre or stoppage situations.

Him being a midfielder at afl is pure speculation at this point in time. I really don’t agree with the grouping of Hewett or Harley as type of midfielder at all.

He’s the one I probably prefer us to avoid tbh.

 

[txbyhull]

Would be a bad trade but if we really did want Sharp etc we may do an unders trade of pick 2 for pick 5 and a F2 with Essendon.

I don’t think we’d do that. Waste of time and assets. The only way that happens if we also get one of their seconds AND we are extremely high on next years NGA intake and think they’ll all come in the first round

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Would be a bad trade but if we really did want Sharp etc we may do an unders trade of pick 2 for pick 5 and a F2 with Essendon.

Given that they're apparently already willing to put up 5 and 15 I don't know why we would do that. Surely 15 could be flipped for more than an F2 if we didn't want to use it ourselves. Collingwood's F1 could be very juicy for example.

 

[txbyhull]

If there’s any truth to 5 + 15 rumours then I’d expect us to then flip 13 + 15 on again

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Assuming we pick up CDT we need to give him the keys to the ruck/ 4 mid straight away. If we are investing heavily into a Luke Jackson lite roll he needs to be developed and given the keys asap more reps he gets the better long term

Yeah, let’s throw CDT in to the ruck against Gawn, Xerri etc, in his 1st year…

 

[Eastern Rangers]

An interesting mock! With Duursma at 7. CDT and Sharp to us.View attachment 2470258

It's a phantom draft as opposed to a mock.

I'm not taken by Duursma but him sliding to pick 7 and his assessment when compared to CDT is odd. At a minimum Duursma is going to take marks and take meters. It wouldn't suprise me if Xavier Taylor ended up better playing a similar role.

Duursma has neither shown the ruck or forward craft to justify his hype and doesn't have a role as 200cm midfielder to fall back on. It's just not a thing and he's not going to be the first.

And if he doesn’t we could have our own Luke Jackson…….. can’t lose!

He ain't Luke Jackson.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Agreed but if hes played he needs aome exposure as a ruck and running arpumd the middle

No. He needs to learn his craft whatever position that is and not be thrown to the wolves.

 

[bzparkes]

Duursma has neither shown the ruck or forward craft to justify his hype and doesn't have a role as 200cm midfielder to fall back on. It's just not a thing and he's not going to be the first.


He ain't Luke Jackson.