List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[Keys]

As expected no Dev Robertson on the draft nomination list

And no Finn Macrae

Or Harry Schoenberg

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Well, for example, if keeping Harry Barnett costs us Banfield i wont be too impressed

Yep and Cripps should have been moved to the rookie list.

No Barnett and Cripps and we've freed up another two list spots with no impact on anything.

 

[Mr Q]

It is astounding that a list as poor as ours is struggling for list spots.

Not really.

We're not at the start of a rebuild, we're a couple of years in, and most of the spots are taken by young kids who are still yet to prove or disprove their AFL ability. Not much old wood left to cut - and you don't want to cut any more experience than we already have.

We have a metric shittonne of players coming out of contract at the end of next year - some of who won't be making it.


This isn't the profile of a team with a lot of older dead wood left to cut.

 

[WCEConnor23]

Cooper Ramsay might be a good rookie option. Adam Jones rates him.

 

[Elite Pete]

As expected no Dev Robertson on the draft nomination list

And no Finn Macrae

Or Harry Schoenberg

Schoenberg is a little bit of a weird one unless he is guaranteed a contract.

I thought it would’ve been just a train on and might still be but you’d think he would’ve at least thrown his hat in the ring to be picked.

 

[TOA.]

Schoenberg is a little bit of a weird one unless he is guaranteed a contract.

I thought it would’ve been just a train on and might still be but you’d think he would’ve at least thrown his hat in the ring to be picked.

The impression i have got of Schoenberg is that his work ethic wasnt great. I wonder if there's a chance he has just given the game away hence why he didnt nominate.

 

[bzparkes]

The impression i have got of Schoenberg is that his work ethic wasnt great. I wonder if there's a chance he has just given the game away hence why he didnt nominate.

Or we're just adding him as a DFA, like the other 2?

 

[WCEswift]

Cooper Ramsay might be a good rookie option. Adam Jones rates him.

our pick 2 dictates imo what we take with the rest, take cdt no ramsay as rookie and probably a mid/small forward at 13. take sharp or robey at 2 and i think we take schubert or emmett

 

[Barrybran]

our pick 2 dictates imo what we take with the rest, take cdt no ramsay as rookie and probably a mid/small forward at 13. take sharp or robey at 2 and i think we take schubert or emmett

13 is a little early for Emmett, isn't it? Or are you talking 34 for him?

 

[Astro7]

I'm good, thanks.

 

[Goomba1973]

I look forward to Williams turning our defenders around and inside out in Purple.

More likely a Liam Henry that had a couple of good games before getting traded to the Saints for a second rounder and he was taken at pick 9 then fades into obscurity because Liam Ryan just came to the club.

 

[WCEswift]

13 is a little early for Emmett, isn't it? Or are you talking 34 for him?

rookie me has him at 15-30

 

[Astro7]

Where things stand

List Openings:
• 5 Primary list
• 4 Rookie list - Cat A
• 1 Rookie list - Cat B

Draft Picks:
• R1: 1,2,13
• R2: 34,41
• RD: 1

Picks 1,2:

• Willem Duursma is all but locked in as the No.1 draft pick for 2025
• West Coast haven’t entirely ruled out trading pick 2 but it’s unlikely and they are yet to receive any offers for it
• It is anticipated that West Coast will make a bid for Zeke Uwland (GC Academy) with pick 2 and then possibly a bid on Harry Dean (Carlton F/S) after that.
• Further bids on either Dylan Patterson (GC Academy) or Dan Annable (BL Academy), whilst possible, seem unlikely at this stage
• Cooper Duff-Tytler is the most likely player to be selected with the Eagle’s second pick- very few, if any, media reports have West Coast linked to anyone else so we’re near certainties to take CDT or have performed some world class misdirection

Pick 13

• West Coast remain in discussions with Carlton to move pick 13 up the order to pick 9 using pick 34 and/or 41, but there’s been little progress so far or detail on what a trade might look like
• Other clubs (Adelaide, St Kilda, Essendon and potentially Collingwood) are also exploring a trade for Carlton’s pick 9 or 11, however, any trade is not expected until a bid is lodged for Harry Dean. Carlton may decide not to trade either pick at all depending on the timing of the Dean bid as when it comes will significantly influence their options
• The presumed target for a trade up the order is Jacob Farrow from West Perth, however he is also being linked to Essendon (picks 5,6) and Melbourne (picks 7,8) before that pick so might not be available
• If a trade for pick 9 isn’t completed, pick 13 will likely become either the 11th or 12th pick in the open pool depending on what Carlton do with picks 9 and 11 when matching the expected Dean bid
• There is very little/no information in the media on an alternative option to Farrow with our third pick - regardless of whether it’s moved up the order or stays where it is - so our ability to keep our intentions out of the media has been impressive
• As many as 10 players are a possibility with our third pick depending on trades and picks prior to ours - Farrow, Sharp, Grlj, Dovaston, Lindsay, O Taylor, Hibbins-Hargreaves, Nairn, Barker or Schubert would be viable selections in therange the pick will fall. There has been a loose connection to Latrelle Pickett from Glenelg and suggestions we’ve put some work into Beau Addinsall (GC Academy) as possible targets

Picks 34/41

Due to bids on academy and F/S players early in the draft and picks lost matching those bids, including possible pick swaps to generate additional points, these two picks will likely be in the 28-30 and 35-37 range respectively before other bids start late R1/early R2

There are numerous possibilities on what happens with these two picks:

• One, or both, picks might be used to trade pick 13 up to pick 9 which may or may not include a pick coming back from Carlton (they hold picks 43 and 54 currently)
• One, or both, picks might be used matching a bid on our NGA player, Tylah Williams, which reportedly could come as early as GWS (pick 12) or more likely from Fremantle’s pick 20 onwards. It is unclear how early West Coast would match any bid, but I doubt they’d match one from GWS with their first pick
• Make a fourth live draft selection based on who is left on our draft board, although as with pick 13, there’s been very little discussion around who we would be targeting with this pick - possibly because the media assumption is we will match a bid on Williams. We would have to guess who’s likely to still be available with our pick should we decide not to match
• In the unlikely event, a bid for Williams doesn’t come before pick 34 we might use that pick then match a bid for Williams when one comes or trade the pick into 2026 depending on who’s still available
• It’s not been raised in the media, but there is also a possibility we trade either, or both, of these picks into 2026 or combine them to move further up the draft order slightly. This would depend on plans around our own NGA and F/S players we’ve nominated and would only happen if we don’t intend to match a Williams bid prior to pick 37

F/S and NGA Nominations

• We’ve nominated Tylah Williams, Koby Evans and Wes Walley as selections from our Next Generation Academy plus Charlie Banfield (son of Drew) as a F/S. This gives us the right to match a bid on any of these players during the primary draft or add them directly to our rookie list if a bid doesn’t eventuate but we aren’t obligated to do so.
• To match a bid requires the following:

• Picks 1-18: The points value of the pick less a 10% discount
• Picks 19-36: The points value of the pick less a fixed 84 point discount
• Pick 37 onwards: Next available pick regardless of points but, most importantly, only if there’s an available primary list spot. We have 5 open spots, 3 of which will be filled with our R1 picks, meaning we will only be able to match a maximum of 2 bids

• Expectations on when bids will be lodged:

• Williams: As discussed a bid might come as early as R1 and in the 19-36 range. If we’ve retained picks 34 and 41 we would have sufficient points to match a bid from late R1 onwards. However, if we’ve traded pick 34 then where pick 41 lands on the night likely only covers a pick around 30 onwards. Trading both picks would mean it’s unlikely we’d be able to match a bid before 37 unless we used a future pick to trade back in
• Evans and Banfield: A bid on either player isn’t expected before pick 37, if at all. That means points won’t be required to match a bid but an open list spot will - it’s likely we’ll have used a fourth selection by this point (either by matching a Williams bid or using a live pick) so we’d be in a position to only cover a bid on one player, not both. If there’s no bid on one, or both, they can (and will) be added to the rookie list after the draft - Banfield as a Cat A and Evans as a Cat B
• Walley: It would be a surprise if a bid comes for Walley meaning we’d be able to add him to our Cat B rookie list post draft. However, there is only one vacant Cat B spot so if Evans also goes through without a bid we would need to move Malakai Champion onto the Cat A rookie list in order to add both. That would swallow up a Cat A opening the club might have other plans for so it’s possible Walley is only listed if a bid is made on Evans

Rookie List - Cat A

As mentioned above, we have 4 Cat A rookie list openings:

• Dev Robertson has committed to joining the club as a SSP signing post draft, which has effectively been confirmed by the club, so he will take one spot
• Finn Macrae has been reported by Josh Gabelich on the AFL website to have done the same so, although this has yet been confirmed by the club, he will take up the second spot. If the report is incorrect then this will be another DFA instead
• The club seemingly intends to leave one spot open to find a player via a train on process like they did with Sandy Brock last offseason - Harry Schoenberg (ex Adelaide) is one possibility we’ve been linked to
• We have first pick in the Rookie draft so it’s probable we look to select a player we like who has slipped through the main draft - based on our overall intake i suspect this would be a KPP or ruck option
• Depending on if/where Banfield, Evans and/or Walley end up on our list one of the latter two options might not eventuate - we can have a max of 4 from the 5 possible options of those three players, pick 1 in the RD and a train on option. (Assumes we take a fourth player in the draft - either Williams or a draft pick)

Likely Outcome

• Willem Duursma - definite
• Cooper Duff-Tytler - near certain
• Pick from the 12-16 draft range overall (Hope for Sharp as the best possible result)
• Tylah Williams - probable matched bid
• Evans/Banfield or Banfield/Walley or Evans/Walley - one of those three combinations a near certainty.
• RD Pick 1 - KPP/Ruck
• Deven Robertson
• Finn Macrae
• Train on option (possibly Harry Schoenberg) or Wes Walley

Appreciate the great summary Keys! Pretty happy with the likely outcome. Here's hoping for a stroke of luck with Sharp, and Evans/ Banfield be sweet!

 

[RJK Tiger]

I come in Peace....





I'm going to start by saying i have looked SFA at the draft, but just got a simple question i tried to ask on our own board but our supporters are a bit special at times.....


How excited are you for Duursma? Do you think he is has the same type of ceiling of a Harley Reid, or, do you see him more as a Ashley McGrath

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level #1 pick?


Question is if Richmond came to Eagles offering 3,4 for 1 & 13 would you think about it, or, is Duursma that special you wouldn't even consider it

 

[mattyc75]

Cooper Ramsay might be a good rookie option. Adam Jones rates him.

Could be a good rookie pick

 

[Spooky17]

I come in Peace....



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I'm going to start by saying i have looked SFA at the draft, but just got a simple question i tried to ask on our own board but our supporters are a bit special at times.....


How excited are you for Duursma? Do you think he is has the same type of ceiling of a Harley Reid, or, do you see him more as a Ashley McGrath level #1 pick?


Question is if Richmond came to Eagles offering 3,4 for 1 & 13 would you think about it, or, is Duursma that special you wouldn't even consider it

I think we’ll take the two best talents in the draft with 1 and 2 according to our rankings. Duursma looks a step down from a Reid level talent for mine, but that’s not meant to be a slight on him, I think Willem has a bright future ahead.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

I come in Peace....



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I'm going to start by saying i have looked SFA at the draft, but just got a simple question i tried to ask on our own board but our supporters are a bit special at times.....


How excited are you for Duursma? Do you think he is has the same type of ceiling of a Harley Reid, or, do you see him more as a Ashley McGrath level #1 pick?


Question is if Richmond came to Eagles offering 3,4 for 1 & 13 would you think about it, or, is Duursma that special you wouldn't even consider it

I think we take 1 and 2 Duursma looks very good and versatile. CDT looks like a versatile agile tall. No reason to drop down the picks.

 

[JackOutback]

People seem to be rejecting it out of hand, but 2, 3 and 4 or 1, 2 and 13 are both good options and there's a case for 2, 3 and 4 (so much so, I don't think Richmond would ever offer it). Duusrma, CDT and whoever is available at 13 or CDT, Robey and Sharp? I probably lean to keeping 1 and 2 but wouldn't knock anyone for considering the alternative.

 

[RJK Tiger]

I think we take 1 and 2 Duursma looks very good and versatile. CDT looks like a versatile agile tall. No reason to drop down the picks.

I tend to agree & its what I wanted Richmond to do this year.

I guess the benefit of doing this would mean you could take 2,3 & likely trade 4 for 2 more 1st rounders either this or next year. You guys made the decision to trade out a lot of first rounders to get instant help with Baker - a move like this could give you a chance to more 1st & 2nd rounders to your rebuild. Having Reid, despite his issues this year, does give you "the guy" you can start to build . thanks for answering - a lot ****ing easier getting an answer from you guys than my own supporters, thats for sure.

Not all #1 picks are built the same, thats for sure

 

[dinnaz]

Ashley McGrath

 

[Barrybran]

I come in Peace....



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I'm going to start by saying i have looked SFA at the draft, but just got a simple question i tried to ask on our own board but our supporters are a bit special at times.....


How excited are you for Duursma? Do you think he is has the same type of ceiling of a Harley Reid, or, do you see him more as a Ashley McGrath level #1 pick?


Question is if Richmond came to Eagles offering 3,4 for 1 & 13 would you think about it, or, is Duursma that special you wouldn't even consider it

Would I do it? Yes and I am running away before you have an opportunity to reconsider how mad you are. Would I say the board consensus would do that? Absolutely not. I don't think Richmond does it either.

 

[RJK Tiger]

People seem to be rejecting it out of hand, but 2, 3 and 4 or 1, 2 and 13 are both good options and there's a case for 2, 3 and 4 (so much so, I don't think Richmond would ever offer it). Duusrma, CDT and whoever is available at 13 or CDT, Robey and Sharp? I probably lean to keeping 1 and 2 but wouldn't knock anyone for considering the alternative.

The strategy i see is, the Bombers, clearly, have a guy they want. If "that guy" is not necessarily valued as much to the Eagles, you can trade 1 or 3 or 4 to the Bombers for their pick 6, 21 &, maybe, a future 2nd rounder next year.

If you are not valuing 4-6 that different from 8-15, then there is a possibility you could trade 4 for 2 mid 1st round picks. There are a few teams out there that would want to get into the top 5 to get "One" bloke.

 

[RJK Tiger]

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lol i was talking about Andrew McGrath - the forgotten #1 pick

 

[bzparkes]

lol i was talking about Andrew McGrath - the forgotten #1 pick

Yep, you definitely forgot about him. Couldn't even remember his first name.

Who can blame you though?

 

[stallon]

I come in Peace....



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I'm going to start by saying i have looked SFA at the draft, but just got a simple question i tried to ask on our own board but our supporters are a bit special at times.....


How excited are you for Duursma? Do you think he is has the same type of ceiling of a Harley Reid, or, do you see him more as a Ashley McGrath level #1 pick?

A Lalor level talent

Question is if Richmond came to Eagles offering 3,4 for 1 & 13 would you think about it, or, is Duursma that special you wouldn't even consider it

Im keeping Duursma, but there would be a lot who would go for it