List Mgmt. Draft Watch 2015

[Stiffy_18]

Rowie on AA said that the word is that we will be looking at SA kids this draft as we have a bad taste in our mouths with Vic kids.
Said that Burton has tested good with his leg and has the all clear.
For me
Pick 9 - Milera
Pick 13 - Burton.

Rowie would not have a ****ing clue. It's just him talking out of his clacker again. We are not afraid of Vic kids and will take the best available regardless of where they are from. No doubt about it.

 

[Dan2352]

I know im jumping forward 12 months here... but what are the projections on Ben Jarman like... does he fill the role of the elite midfielder we want... and if so, do we take two KPP's (McKay, Burton, Collins ect) knowing we are chasing Jarman next year?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Rowie would not have a ******* clue. It's just him talking out of his clacker again. We are not afraid of Vic kids and will take the best available regardless of where they are from. No doubt about it.

I heard Rowie say that and it was coming with no evidence

The word is we really like mckay and hibberd, I'd say milera, burton and bonner would enter conversations but I predict th formers, neither SA but both are not vic metro and hibberd is tassie - less go home factor

I'd actually go mckay and collins as not really a pure mid worthy at our picks unless we push Oliver up

 

[ams4crows]

There's a Harry Mckay and a Ben Mckay which one are we after?

 

[Deaneus!]

There's a Harry Mckay and a Ben Mckay which one are we after?

I think it's Harry.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Given how the draft order has panned out after all the trades, can't help but feel we are left outside looking in. Carlton, Melbourne and Essendon all have 2 picks before we get our first call and Carlton has another one before our 2nd pick.

I fill that out main targets will be gone by the time our pick comes around and that could include McKay. All 3 of those teams would be looking for talls and mids no doubt about it.

 

[Bacon8]

There's a Harry Mckay and a Ben Mckay which one are we after?

Harry's the higher prospect.

Ben is a late bloomer.

Grab them both. If we take one, we will always be asking to trade for the other anyway.

 

[Brentmeister]

Given how the draft order has panned out after all the trades, can't help but feel we are left outside looking in. Carlton, Melbourne and Essendon all have 2 picks before we get our first call and Carlton has another one before our 2nd pick.

I fill that out main targets will be gone by the time our pick comes around and that could include McKay. All 3 of those teams would be looking for talls and mids no doubt about it.

I'm very happy with Pick 9 and 13. Could have chucked it in for a pick 4 and 20 or something but I think we'll end up with a better net result, knowing how good our history with first round picks is.

 

[grundog49]

I rate Burton the best player in the draft last year and I still see him in the top 10. Burton probably plays as a second tall forward. I like at the key post and if he gets around the 193+ cm mark hes good. Best leading key forward and has the best forward IQ in the draft.

 

[1990crow]

I rate Burton the best player in the draft last year and I still see him in the top 10. Burton probably plays as a second tall forward. I like at the key post and if he gets around the 193+ cm mark hes good. Best leading key forward and has the best forward IQ in the draft.

Is he good overhead like Gunston?

 

[pjcrows]

I'd take Harry McKay at 9 and Wayne Milera at 13. If Milera is gone, I'd take Bonner.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I rate Burton the best player in the draft last year and I still see him in the top 10. Burton probably plays as a second tall forward. I like at the key post and if he gets around the 193+ cm mark hes good. Best leading key forward and has the best forward IQ in the draft.

for those interested in heights/weights at latest combine

H Mckay 200.1cm/94.5 kg
Burton 190.9/87.6
Hibberd 190.1/85.9
Bonner 190/85.1

doesn't look like Burton has grown much since last measurement

 

[FAITH]

experts say the top 14 picks are guns so we cant go wrong having 2 inside 14

 

[Jeffcrowe]

experts say the top 14 picks are guns so we cant go wrong having 2 inside 14

We definitely know this and have our targets hence holding those picks safe once we obtained them

looking forward to draft night

 

[grundog49]

Is he good overhead like Gunston?

Hes alright. Hes not going to take big pack marks but can take some contested overhead ones.

 

[pjcrows]

We definitely know this and have our targets hence holding those picks safe once we obtained them

looking forward to draft night

Might actually head down for a look.

 

[DJ75]

Genuinely believe that Bonner will have a better AFL career then Francis

It probably all comes down to what team they end up at. If Bonner gets to Hawthorn he slots on to a back flank and is a jet.
Francis at GWS, or Carlton could be a disappointment.

Development is a big part of success/failure of draft picks.

 

[DJ75]

For me Harry McKay pick 9. Burton pick 13. Would be a terrific result.

 

[Wouldbetackler]

What bout Kieren Collins anyone keen we need another kpd and he looks ready to play next year

 

[Brentmeister]

Two picks inside 13?

Yumma yumma yumma

 

[Samcro24]

Rowie on AA said that the word is that we wont be looking at McKay this draft as we have a bad taste in our mouths with blokes named McKay.

 

[ADL9798]

It'll be interesting to see whether we change our selection strategy with respect to the home state of our draftees. In years gone by we've had no issue taking the best available regardless of their state of origin, and while we've heard Noble & Ogilvie in the past say that they'll give slight preference to an SA boy if there's little to no difference between him and an interstater, there's been a lot of talk over the last few weeks that we'll be placing heavier weighting on locals this year.

By all accounts, these are the 5 most highly rated SA boys in this years draft - tipped in a number of phantoms to go in the top 20 or so.

Aaron Francis (192cm, 92 kg) - Utility
Ryan Burton (191cm, 90 kg) - Forward
Wayne Milera (185cm, 75 kg) - Outside Mid
Riley Bonner (191cm, 85 kg) - Utility
Luke Partington (182cm, 75 kg) - Outside Mid

Unfortunately it sounds unlikely that Francis will still be there at pick 9, the other 4 however should still be on the board for either of our first 2 picks. It seems unlikely we'd let all of them slip past, the question for me is do we take 1 or 2? Who would we prefer assuming Francis is off the board?

Having just traded in Seedsman & Hampton, and with Smith, Henderson, Shaw etc already on the list in that tall, quick, running defender mould - you'd think that despite his undoubted skill Bonner doesn't really represent a need for us and consequently would slip down the priority list.. My guess is that having lost Podsiadly and not really brought in any talls during trade week, we'll use 1 of those picks on Ryan Burton.

For me Harry McKay pick 9. Burton pick 13. Would be a terrific result.

I've heard Harry McKay mentioned a few times and I'm a bit wary - these giant, 200cm, big marking tall forwards have been all the rage in the first round over the last 3-4 years, with some very early picks spent on securing the likes of Day, Dixon, Lynch, Patton, Boyd, Daniher, Wright & Apeness. These types are always hyped up massively around draft time (3 are tipped to go in the top 20 this year - Schache, Weideman & McKay), but are they your best bet if you're looking for an elite key position forward with one of those early picks?

Compare those names and their performances to date relative to what we've seen from the likes of Gunston, Cameron, Darling, Stringer, Hogan, McCarthy, McCartin. It seems to me that the more skillful, mobile forwards around the 190-195cm mark are probably a safer bet, and once you get over ~195cm (6'5"), that forward had better have some pretty exceptional traits other than just being physically imposing and a strong mark to be worth the investment of a top 10 pick. That might be enough to dominate at under 18 level, but in the AFL I feel a few of these guys get caught out when it becomes apparent that they can't just rag doll defenders and take chest marks all day.

 

[rezagun]

It'll be interesting to see whether we change our selection strategy with respect to the home state of our draftees. In years gone by we've had no issue taking the best available regardless of their state of origin, and while we've heard Noble & Ogilvie in the past say that they'll give slight preference to an SA boy if there's little to no difference between him and an interstater, there's been a lot of talk over the last few weeks that we'll be placing heavier weighting on locals this year.

By all accounts, these are the 5 most highly rated SA boys in this years draft - tipped in a number of phantoms to go in the top 20 or so.

Aaron Francis (192cm, 92 kg) - Utility
Ryan Burton (191cm, 90 kg) - Forward
Wayne Milera (185cm, 75 kg) - Outside Mid
Riley Bonner (191cm, 85 kg) - Utility
Luke Partington (182cm, 75 kg) - Outside Mid

Unfortunately it sounds unlikely that Francis will still be there at pick 9, the other 4 however should still be on the board for either of our first 2 picks. It seems unlikely we'd let all of them slip past, the question for me is do we take 1 or 2? Who would we prefer assuming Francis is off the board?

Having just traded in Seedsman & Hampton, and with Smith, Henderson, Shaw etc already on the list in that tall, quick, running defender mould - you'd think that despite his undoubted skill Bonner doesn't really represent a need for us and consequently would slip down the priority list.. My guess is that having lost Podsiadly and not really brought in any talls during trade week, we'll use 1 of those picks on Ryan Burton.



I've heard Harry McKay mentioned a few times and I'm a bit wary - these giant, 200cm, big marking tall forwards have been all the rage in the first round over the last 3-4 years, with some very early picks spent on securing the likes of Day, Dixon, Lynch, Patton, Boyd, Daniher, Wright & Apeness. These types are always hyped up massively around draft time (3 are tipped to go in the top 20 this year - Schache, Weideman & McKay), but are they your best bet if you're looking for an elite key position forward with one of those early picks?

Compare those names and their performances to date relative to what we've seen from the likes of Gunston, Cameron, Darling, Stringer, Hogan, McCarthy, McCartin. It seems to me that the more skillful, mobile forwards around the 190-195cm mark are probably a safer bet, and once you get over ~195cm (6'5"), that forward had better have some pretty exceptional traits other than just being physically imposing and a strong mark to be worth the investment of a top 10 pick. That might be enough to dominate at under 18 level, but in the AFL I feel a few of these guys get caught out when it becomes apparent that they can't just rag doll defenders and take chest marks all day.

Burton:9, milera or bonner:13. Watching highlights of most of the top 20 or so prospects these are the ones i want and that i think will still be there at 9,13. All from sa too. Harry Mackay looks like jpod in his style, decent mark but this is the year we get local jets.

 

[JimmyTheScoop]

Have just been watching draft prospects highlights as the all sound awesome on paper. Apart from Francis, another player stood out to me, (left the top 2 listed out), Clayton Oliver. Great pace, tackling machine, knows where the goals are, follow up, team player and of course..... A red head!!! Sign him up!!

 

[Pugsley]

Tucker
Bonner