List Mgmt. Draft Watch 2015

[Ozzie]

Yes. Pretty much. I've had a look back.

Thanks for looking back. It cuts out a lot of fighting, I wish more would do that.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Faith
My thoughts on what we will do if we can
Pick 9 H Mckay
Pick 13 Mitch hibberd

plan B If H McKay is gone before 9
Pick 9 Francis
Pick 13 Tucker

Happy with either outcome

Can't see us taking both Francis and hibberd as too similar in their roles

Don't think there is any interest in Burton for what it's worth

I think that Francis will be our number 1 target, McKay number 2 imo

 

[Untouchables22]

I have to disagree with you on this. Lever was the #1 choice pick until the goal by Cockatoo appeared on the board and then a ot of people jumped on board his bandwagon. Peter Wright was considered but most doubted he would slide to us. Weller was an afterthought for most. In the end though it was still Lever. Most sensible people knew the KPP has more weight than a mid.

I definitely thought Lever would be gone by our pick. I always thought Laverde or Weller.

 

[ManInTheArena]

I don't know about picking up an outside mid with our first pick. I know Milera is highly rated etc. but outside mids are about as hit and miss as rucks in my view.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Faith
My thoughts on what we will do if we can
Pick 9 H Mckay
Pick 13 Mitch hibberd

plan B If H McKay is gone before 9
Pick 9 Francis
Pick 13 Tucker

Happy with either outcome

Can't see us taking both Francis and hibberd as too similar in their roles

Don't think there is any interest in Burton for what it's worth

Wouldn't be surprised with Francis and Hibberd - they can be our HBFers for the next 10 years. This means Smith can go into the midfield full-time. Both Francis and Hibberd can give versatility as well. Or do you have inside info which suggest we won't take them?

For the record, Francis and Hibberd is what I'm really hoping for.

 

[BACCS]

I don't know about picking up an outside mid with our first pick. I know Milera is highly rated etc. but outside mids are about as hit and miss as rucks in my view.

I really don't think it is a particular need either, but if he's still there at our 2nd pick of course the club would consider it.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I don't know about picking up an outside mid with our first pick. I know Milera is highly rated etc. but outside mids are about as hit and miss as rucks in my view.

Why not?!!, we haven't really had an elite one for years , smith the closest thing but he has settled at half back with potential to have more mid minutes

Milera is versatile and has a crack in the contest, put some size on him and he will go well in traffic as that is a natural part of his game as well

 

[I Lost My Keays]

what AFL player does Hibberd resemble?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I think that Francis will be our number 1 target, McKay number 2 imo

Yeah , I think it will be v close and closer to what people might think

Doubt both are available but kind of hoping they are to see what we do , and even more interesting if milera, Francis and mckay were all available which is even more unlikely

 

[Jeffcrowe]

what AFL player does Hibberd resemble?

He doesn't resemble hendo but he would replace hendo

He is 190cm, takes contested marks , links well on the outside , kicks well and makes smart decisions

He could also be developed to play more inside as that part of his game is ok and that height would be handy in the guts

He's not as quick as hendo but his endurance is elite > 15 level beep which is top shelf

Think his height is what we may be after as a utility if we don't get Francis at 9

 

[Danger in Texas]

He doesn't resemble hendo but he would replace hendo

He is 190cm, takes contested marks , links well on the outside , kicks well and makes smart decisions

He could also be developed to play more inside as that part of his game is ok and that height would be handy in the guts

He's not as quick as hendo but his endurance is elite > 15 level beep which is top shelf

Think his height is what we may be after as a utility if we don't get Francis at 9

Do you know if we're a sure chance to take Hibberd at this stage, or is it just BF talk?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Wouldn't be surprised with Francis and Hibberd - they can be our HBFers for the next 10 years. This means Smith can go into the midfield full-time. Both Francis and Hibberd can give versatility as well. Or do you have inside info which suggest we won't take them?

For the record, Francis and Hibberd is what I'm really hoping for.

The doubt I have is the fact we traded for Seedsman and hampton

From what I've seen of hampton he will struggle for running capacity to play full time wing / mid and I think he will settle at half back personally

Seedsman is a chance to play up the ground but once again think he is more comfortable at half back

Would mean we have at least 6 naturally suited half backs Jaensch, laird, smith, Seedsman, hampton , Francis, hibberd

Not even going to include hendo , VB or mckay in that list !!

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Do you know if we're a sure chance to take Hibberd at this stage, or is it just BF talk?

Not sure of anything but reading between the lines think he is in the mix for pick 13 with quite a few others

 

[Danger in Texas]

The doubt I have is the fact we traded for Seedsman and hampton

From what I've seen of hampton he will struggle for running capacity to play full time wing / mid and I think he will settle at half back personally

Seedsman is a chance to play up the ground but once again think he is more comfortable at half back

Would mean we have at least 6 naturally suited half backs Jaensch, laird, smith, Seedsman, hampton , Francis, hibberd

Not even going to include hendo , VB or mckay in that list !!

Reckon Francis is a different type of half back - more an Easton Wood-style, for mine. He has the potential to develop into a Goddard-type, but I don't think he's quite that yet.

No harm in adding them both, IMO, but you've got some points.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Reckon Francis is a different type of half back - more an Easton Wood-style, for mine. He has the potential to develop into a Goddard-type, but I don't think he's quite that yet.

No harm in adding them both, IMO, but you've got some points.

Sorry but getting angry here .......how can you simply throw the term "no harm to add them "into any draft conversation?

Questions:
1. how many top 10 picks has the Crows had?

2. We've just loss the AFL's top 5 player .....an inside beast, and about to lose Thompson ....plus losing Wright ...that's a fair bit on inside class players being lost

And you see no harm in adding a couple of flankers to replace Henderson .......SERIOUSLY are you thinking about what your posting ?

Not just you but general thinking has no thought to team / list structures

Just added 2 half back flankers in the trade .....have Shaw and Otten fit again .....but hey lets recruit flankers with two VERY IMPORTANT draft picks ......what's the harm hey

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The doubt I have is the fact we traded for Seedsman and hampton

From what I've seen of hampton he will struggle for running capacity to play full time wing / mid and I think he will settle at half back personally

Seedsman is a chance to play up the ground but once again think he is more comfortable at half back

Would mean we have at least 6 naturally suited half backs Jaensch, laird, smith, Seedsman, hampton , Francis, hibberd

Not even going to include hendo , VB or mckay in that list !!

This ......need ...ALWAYS NEED to use first round picks on the sides skeleton .....in this case midfield grunt and marking power !!!!!!!!!!!!

We've covered off speed and flankers thankyou very much

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I don't know about picking up an outside mid with our first pick. I know Milera is highly rated etc. but outside mids are about as hit and miss as rucks in my view.

He's not pure outside ......have a look at his tapes ...he's playing inside / out ......sure he's not an extractor, but neither was Macleod

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

This my prediction for the draft up until our second pick, excluding academy picks. In brackets is what I hope happens, in combination with each other or on their own would help us.

1. Carlton - Weitering
2. Brisbane - Schache
3. Melbourne - Parish (Curnow)
4. Essendon - Curnow (Parish)
5. Essendon - Francis (Weideman)
6. Gold Coast - Milera (Mathieson)
7. Melbourne - Weideman (Collins)
8. Carlton - Mckay
9. Adelaide - Oliver (Francis)
10. Carlton - Tucker/Mathieson
11. Richmond - Ah Chee
12. Adelaide - Burton (Milera)

I don't think Essendon will take Francis

IMO they will select a genuine KPP and a genuine Mid with their two selections

Francis is neither

 

[Redleg Crow]

Looking around on the various phantom drafts, there's a lot of wide variations for players like Tucker, Ah Chee and others

Ah Chee goes from 45th by Knightmare to 11 by Skippos, 15th by Paige Cardona, 14th on the AFL site and 20th on Fox
Tucker is 50th with Knightmare, 15th with Skippos, 13th with Paige, 11;th on AFL and 21st with Fox.

 

[hendo8888]

So everyone else thinks they're a first rounder, but Knightmare, who doesn't seem to rate them.

 

[lunacy]

Sorry but getting angry here .......how can you simply throw the term "no harm to add them "into any draft conversation?

Questions:
1. how many top 10 picks has the Crows had?

2. We've just loss the AFL's top 5 player .....an inside beast, and about to lose Thompson ....plus losing Wright ...that's a fair bit on inside class players being lost

And you see no harm in adding a couple of flankers to replace Henderson .......SERIOUSLY are you thinking about what your posting ?

Not just you but general thinking has no thought to team / list structures

Just added 2 half back flankers in the trade .....have Shaw and Otten fit again .....but hey lets recruit flankers with two VERY IMPORTANT draft picks ......what's the harm hey

Best available. I don't think we'll end up with 2 similar players at 9 & 13 anyway.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Sorry but getting angry here .......how can you simply throw the term "no harm to add them "into any draft conversation?

Questions:
1. how many top 10 picks has the Crows had?

2. We've just loss the AFL's top 5 player .....an inside beast, and about to lose Thompson ....plus losing Wright ...that's a fair bit on inside class players being lost

And you see no harm in adding a couple of flankers to replace Henderson .......SERIOUSLY are you thinking about what your posting ?

Not just you but general thinking has no thought to team / list structures

Just added 2 half back flankers in the trade .....have Shaw and Otten fit again .....but hey lets recruit flankers with two VERY IMPORTANT draft picks ......what's the harm hey

Maybe because Hibberd and Francis have the potential to turn into two absolute quality talents? Besides, you obviously don't know a heap about what they are capable of. Francis is not a flanker, he is a 3rd tall/intercept marking-type backman with the ability to go forward and kick goals, and possibly play in the guts. He is NOT a Seedsman/Hampton/Smith type. Hibberd is definitely a balanced HBF, but he has the potential to turn into a gun inside/outside, tall, contested marking mid (THIS is what we are lacking - balanced mids, not inside mids). Hibberd and Francis are two players that are definitely needs, but are also TALENTED footballers. Is there any harm in drafting talented players? I don't think so.

We are not wasting our picks drafting these two players. You seem to want inside mids... we have our inside covered for the time being. We have guys called Rory Sloane, Brad Crouch, Matt Crouch and even Rory Laird if needed. We have already drafted the bones of our team. We need to find players who can potentially fill holes in our side, and perform these roles more than well. Hibberd and Francis are perfect examples of these types of players.

 

[Pugsley]

Here's to another draft


Cheers

 

[scoota10]

Here's one from Left Field
Seeing the Coach has come from W.A. I would imagine he would have seen or heard of
3 Lads from W.A.I don't know if he has any input on recruiting So if he liked what he seen
can he override the Recruiters
I don't know Ah-Chee back ground in Discipline etc
So I would pick him at 13 if there


16. Richmond – Callum Ah Chee (WA – FWD/MID)
Height: 182cm, Weight: 71kg, DOB: 09/10/1997
Recruited from: South Fremantle
Range: 5-30
Profile: Damaging forward/midfielder.

36. Gold Coast (via trade) - Gregory Clark (WA – MID)
Height: 193cm, Weight: 82kg, DOB: 24/05/1997
Recruited from: Subiaco
Range: 20- undrafted
Profile: Promising tall running midfielder

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27. Western Bulldogs (via trade) – Jesse Glass-McCasker (WA – KPD)
Height: 198cm, Weight: 95kg, DOB: 03/01/1997
Recruited from: Swan Districts
Range: 20-undrafted
Profile: Tall, strong shutdown key defender.

 

[FAITH]

would LOL if clubs fall for the Milera & Francis flight risk talk and overlook them and crows pick them up.

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