Draft whispers, rumours & scuttlebut

[Cudi]

Heard today that a club with no picks in the top 10 is astonished at hearing how far Aaron Francis is set to fall. They've had him #1 or #2 all year and are now regretting not trading into the latter half of the top 10. Thought he was unattainable.

I've heard Carlton rate him as a top 5 player in the draft, so would be very surprised if he gets past their pick 8.

 

[RUNVS]

If I am Essendon, I bid for Mills, Hopper, Kennedy, Keays and Hipwood,. Get them all off the board.. All clubs will match bids either way..

Do that and the AFL will change the rules the week after as clubs are only supposed to be bidding on players where they genuinely think the player should go in the draft. Trying to screw over the academy clubs in such a way is only going to give the 4 clubs more power in the future.

 

[HBF]

I've heard Carlton rate him as a top 5 player in the draft, so would be very surprised if he gets past their pick 8.

Seems to be common knowledge on the Carlton board as well. Getting Weitering and Francis would be amazing for us.

 

[Zach Package]

Do that and the AFL will change the rules the week after as clubs are only supposed to be bidding on players where they genuinely think the player should go in the draft. Trying to screw over the academy clubs in such a way is only going to give the 4 clubs more power in the future.

but that would mean Mills is pick 4, Hopper 5, Kennedy 6, Keays 7, and Hipwood 8...

Seems pretty accurate to me

 

[KeilorUnder9s]

If Tiger fans "aggro" in October/November was matched by their Captain each September - they might even win a final!!!!

Dude you barrack for Carlton.


Its so cool that you guys are the new Melbourne.

 

[VaultWanderer]

*using it as an excuse since.

It's not like he was any good before he broke his leg either.

Burton no good before hand? Are you mentally sick?

 

[TedDougChris]

I've heard a rumour that Weitering is likely to make it all the way through to Hawthorn.

Here's how it will happen

MY PHANTOM DRAFT 2015

7. Sam Weideman (Essendon) - Essendon selects Francis and Weideman as best available talents, bypassing Weitering as they believed 'his high character and integrity weren't congruent with the current value system of EFC's administration'. They went on, 'We weren't comfortable with his behaviour when we met with him prior to the draft. He was trying to hold us accountable for our actions. We tried explaining to him that wasn't how we did things at EFC, but he wouldn't listen.'

Well played sir, well played !!

 

[RUNVS]

but that would mean Mills is pick 4, Hopper 5, Kennedy 6, Keays 7, and Hipwood 8...

Seems pretty accurate to me

Not Keays or Hipwood. Neither are rated that highly. Bidding for them that early would only be done to harm the Brisbane Lions.

 

[TheSunGod]

I've heard a rumour that Weitering is likely to make it all the way through to Hawthorn.

Here's how it will happen

MY PHANTOM DRAFT 2015
1. Josh Schache (Carlton) - After meeting with new coach Brendon Bolton, Weitering revealed he has a pathological fear of short people, causing Carlton to select Schache instead.
2. Johnny Gastev (Brisbane) - Fearing another draftee wanting to return home after 2 years, Brisbane decides to talk Gastev out of retirement, as he is a player who proved to enjoy playing in Brisbane.
3. Callum Mills (Sydney) - Melbourne bids, Sydney matches just to stick it up Eddie McGuire.
4. Darcy Parish (Melbourne) - Melbourne's proven history as recruiting geniuses have them selecting Parish, as they firmly believed that he was 'undoubtably the very best player in the draft'
5. Jacob Hopper (GWS) - Essendon bids, GWS matches due to their overwhelming sense of pride at having done something right on a football field, by developing Hopper.
6. Aaron Francis (Essendon)
7. Sam Weideman (Essendon) - Essendon selects Francis and Weideman as best available talents, bypassing Weitering as they believed 'his high character and integrity weren't congruent with the current value system of EFC's administration'. They went on, 'We weren't comfortable with his behaviour when we met with him prior to the draft. He was trying to hold us accountable for our actions. We tried explaining to him that wasn't how we did things at EFC, but he wouldn't listen.'
8. Rhys Mathieson (Gold Coast) - fearing their midfield again being decimated by injury, GC target the best mid available
9. Charlie Curnow (Melbourne) - Melbourne are ecstatic securing Curnow, insisting they had him as No.2 on their draft board. They can't believe he was still available. When quizzed about Weitering they explain that they have not been in the hospitality industry for some time.
10. Wayne Milera (Carlton) - Wanting to check one last time regarding Weitering's fear of short people, Carlton deploy a former premiership player to represent them in these discussions. Matthew Hogg reports back that Weitering's status is unchanged. They take Milera.
11. Harley Balic (Adelaide) - Adelaide had every intention of drafting Weitering, but due to their emotional state as a result of losing Patrick Dangerfield, their draft notes were smudged with tears which caused them to read out the wrong number. Welcome Harley Balic.
12. Matthew Kennedy (GWS) - Carlton bids, GWS match. Their pride now overflowing after selecting another from their flourishing football nursery.
13. Jack Silvagni (Carlton) - Who else? Nepotism is part of the fabric at Carlton
14. Eric Hipwood (Brisbane) - Richmond Bids, Brisbane match. Happy to have a home grown talent
15. Jade Gresham (Richmond) - Believed that Rance's shoulders are broad enough to continue to carry Richmond's backline all on his own, judged Weitering to be an unnecessary investment as a result.
16. Pass (Adelaide) - Commenced immediate therapy for their grief and loss issues. They will be absent for the remainder of the draft.
17. Kieran Collins (St Kilda) - Intended to draft Weitering but new free agent signing Jake Carlisle began to cry at the prospect of having to play forward again. Given their monetary investment in him, and his history of petulant behaviour when things aren't going his way, St Kilda thought it best to keep him happy and not take Weitering. They sneakily drafted another key defender in Collins, but Carlisle was too high at the time to notice.
18. Ben Keays (Brisbane) - Home grown talent, has the Lions happy as a pig in you know what
19. Jacob Weitering (Hawthorn) - Sitting in stunned amazement at what has just transpired, they almost forget to make a selection, but alas for the rest of the competition, they manage to spit out Weitering's number. Almost immediately, they begin planning their premiership celebrations

It could happen right?

This is ridiculous. Johnny Gastev would go number 1 in this draft, has his nose in front of Schache as the best player.

 

[Zach Package]

Not Keays or Hipwood. Neither are rated that highly. Bidding for them that early would only be done to harm the Brisbane Lions.

Is this not entirely subjective though?

 

[Taylor]

Do that and the AFL will change the rules the week after as clubs are only supposed to be bidding on players where they genuinely think the player should go in the draft. Trying to screw over the academy clubs in such a way is only going to give the 4 clubs more power in the future.

It would definitely mean they never actually use a first round pick unless it is late because of all the point hoarding 2nd rounder trades that will take place to get their academy talent.

 

[RUNVS]

Is this not entirely subjective though?

But if you are selecting every major talked about academy player this year, one by one, one right after the other, then it is obvious what that club is doing.

 

[tizzay7]

I though a club can only bid for one father/son or academy player with their first choice and after it is matched they have to take a player in the open draft. Can anyone clarify this?

 

[RUNVS]

I though a club can only bid for one father/son or academy player with their first choice and after it is matched they have to take a player in the open draft. Can anyone clarify this?

That isn't right. It can go

Melbourne has pick 3 and bids on Mills forcing Sydney to match
Melbourne now has pick 4 and uses that to bid on Hooper forcing GWS to match
Melbourne now has pick 5 and uses that to bid on Kennedy forcing GWS to match
Melbourne now has pick 6 and uses that to bid on Hipwood forcing Brisbane to match
Melbourne now has pick 7 and uses that to bid on Keays forcing Brisbane to match
Melbourne now has pick 8 whom they can use on the same person they were originally intending to get at pick 3.

 

[KeilorUnder9s]

That isn't right. It can go

Melbourne has pick 3 and bids on Mills forcing Sydney to match
Melbourne now has pick 4 and uses that to bid on Hooper forcing GWS to match
Melbourne now has pick 5 and uses that to bid on Kennedy forcing GWS to match
Melbourne now has pick 6 and uses that to bid on Hipwood forcing Brisbane to match
Melbourne now has pick 7 and uses that to bid on Keays forcing Brisbane to match
Melbourne now has pick 8 whom they can use on the same person they were originally intending to get at pick 3.

So Melbourne can make the academy clubs use more points to get their players? Go Dees!

 

[M Malice]

That isn't right. It can go

Melbourne has pick 3 and bids on Mills forcing Sydney to match
Melbourne now has pick 4 and uses that to bid on Hooper forcing GWS to match
Melbourne now has pick 5 and uses that to bid on Kennedy forcing GWS to match
Melbourne now has pick 6 and uses that to bid on Hipwood forcing Brisbane to match
Melbourne now has pick 7 and uses that to bid on Keays forcing Brisbane to match
Melbourne now has pick 8 whom they can use on the same person they were originally intending to get at pick 3.

in theory melbourne could do this but they never would. the AFL published a statement about bidding like this a few weeks ago. they will come down very hard on unrealistic bidding and consider it draft tampering. assume they would be banned from the draft for a few years for an obvious breach like this one.

 

[blueiris]

So Melbourne can make the academy clubs use more points to get their players? Go Dees!

They could actually end up with that player too so they had better really be prepared to want the player they bid on

 

[Nahas2Waite]

Heard Sydney is not that keen on Mills and is tossing up whether to match a bid for him.

 

[Nahas2Waite]

in theory melbourne could do this but they never would. the AFL published a statement about bidding like this a few weeks ago. they will come down very hard on unrealistic bidding and consider it draft tampering. assume they would be banned from the draft for a few years for an obvious breach like this one.

Why, can bid for whoever you like whenever you like.

 

[Matty411]

Brett Anderson believes there's a good chance Dees and maybe even Dons overlook Parish... if he got past Bombers pick 5 then surely no way Dees and Suns let him go. If he slid to Blues at 8 (to become 11) I would rightly lose it.

 

[M Malice]

Why, can bid for whoever you like whenever you like.

i don't know why. the AFL said they will be looking at all bids to see if they are unrealistic bids, i guess they decide what is unrealistic.

 

[RUNVS]

Heard Sydney is not that keen on Mills and is tossing up whether to match a bid for him.

Probably not likely given how the Swans traded for worse picks and more points in trade week.

 

[Crazy Tails]

Heard Sydney is not that keen on Mills and is tossing up whether to match a bid for him.

That would be a shock as Brenton Sanderson and Cal Twomey rate him as the best mid in the draft and had the Dees bid on him at 3 in their mock draft on AFL.com yesterday. Which was matched by Sydney.

Swans got Heeney cheap last year they'll pay the premium required for Mills.

 

[blueboy25]

Dude you barrack for Carlton.


Its so cool that you guys are the new Melbourne.

Have melbourne won a final in the last 10 years?

If they have then it would be embarrasing to be a club that hasn't won a final in that time.

 

[cdcanman]

Heard Sydney is not that keen on Mills and is tossing up whether to match a bid for him.

I wouldn't listen to anything the person you heard it from has to say...ever again