Drop Carrazzo thread

[WeninRome]

Dropping him this week for turning the ball over would send a very poor message to the other players. I don't think people that weren't at AAMI can appreciate how trying the conditions were (even for Vic supporters sitting amongst the feral's). Carrots worked extremely hard off the ball, and while others where falling over aswell as disposing poorly he was keeping his feet and holding the ball. I agree his footskill errors are at times frustrating, and I for one can get pretty annoyed, I thought Sunday arvo was one of his better games.

Yeah you are right, one cannot tell as well from tv as from being actually there. If what you say is correct then I stand to be corrected.

If he did all the things you mentioned then I am wrong.

I would like to get your opinion on his accountability though, how was that last night? might be a bit hard to judge from tv

 

[Blu3_Boy]

carrots may have bad disposal, but at least he runs and runs and runs and is hard at it. so many times yesterday he was there to help out our defenders getting the ball out of defence. without him our backline would not have looked as good as it did imo.



would much prefer carrazo over heath 'nancy boy' scotland

HAHAHAHAHA lol that made me laugh hahahaha!

 

[WeninRome]

I was one to say drop him a few weeks back and i'm happy to admit it. He was playing more of a midfield role at the time and IMO he can't be appart of our midfield group, he doesn't have the tools to do so.

I think Ratten has figured this out and is now starting to play him in a defensive role that is more worried about the man than the ball, played well last night i might add. He has 79% effectiveness with his possessions but only 5 of his 25 touches are contested which shows that he doesn't have good disposal in a contested position. Also he isn't an in and under player because 5 out of 25 is not good enough to be one but he is hard at the ball and puts in week in week out.

Keep playing him in this defensive role that Ratten seems to be giving him, play him on Davis this week and keep playing him on small forwards. If he starts dropping his defensive duties and start becoming less accountable, he has to be dropped because he has no attacking side to his game what so ever.

these are my exact thoughts. It's not a personal attack on the guy, just his ability on the field

 

[The Coach]

Not getting much support here Bluejudd. (Never a good thread title - esp after an incredible win)
Won't be dropped
Did struggle a bit one on one last night and does need to embrace the new backline running policy (we are modelling ourselves on Geelong)
Not sure where his best posn is

 

[WeninRome]

Not getting much support here Bluejudd. (Never a good thread title - esp after an incredible win)
Won't be dropped
Did struggle a bit one on one last night and does need to embrace the new backline running policy (we are modelling ourselves on Geelong)
Not sure where his best posn is

It was never going to be a popular thread, and Ratts would not be very popular if he did it, but sometimes hard decisions need to be made.

I knew I was going to get pumped for putting this thread up but it is worthy as it provides a good sphere for debate.

 

[The Coach]

I was one to say drop him a few weeks back and i'm happy to admit it. He was playing more of a midfield role at the time and IMO he can't be appart of our midfield group, he doesn't have the tools to do so.

I think Ratten has figured this out and is now starting to play him in a defensive role that is more worried about the man than the ball, played well last night i might add. He has 79% effectiveness with his possessions but only 5 of his 25 touches are contested which shows that he doesn't have good disposal in a contested position. Also he isn't an in and under player because 5 out of 25 is not good enough to be one but he is hard at the ball and puts in week in week out.

Keep playing him in this defensive role that Ratten seems to be giving him, play him on Davis this week and keep playing him on small forwards. If he starts dropping his defensive duties and start becoming less accountable, he has to be dropped because he has no attacking side to his game what so ever.

How many contested possies do you think he is supposed to have lol
Apart from Waite who has to fly for contested marks, Gibbs who is also a defensive mid, is the only other backman to have more

 

[Cruiser23]

How many contested possies do you think he is supposed to have lol
Apart from Waite who has to fly for contested marks, Gibbs who is also a defensive mid, is the only other backman to have more

A lot more for someone who has 25+ touches each week and supposedly was one of our inside midfielders. He should be used as a defended and not as a midfielder, if he can't hold down a defensive spot he should be dropped.

He hasn't spent anywhere near the amount of time in defence than the other two you mention, he has played most of his time as a midfielder.

I'm not saying he should be dropped but what i am saying is that he should not play in the midfield or forward of the centre, he add nothing to us in that area.

 

[WeninRome]

I honestly believe that opposition coaches know that he does nothing with the ball and thus don't bother manning him up when he has a go through the middle. This is why he racks up so many possessions

 

[Beloved]

Guh...*Slaps forehead*

It's the same old Bentick argument.

 

[pidge]

A lot more for someone who has 25+ touches each week and supposedly was one of our inside midfielders. He should be used as a defended and not as a midfielder, if he can't hold down a defensive spot he should be dropped.

He hasn't spent anywhere near the amount of time in defence than the other two you mention, he has played most of his time as a midfielder.

I'm not saying he should be dropped but what i am saying is that he should not play in the midfield or forward of the centre, he add nothing to us in that area.

u named the thread drop carazzo how are u not saying he should be dropped

 

[WeninRome]

Guh...*Slaps forehead*

It's the same old Bentick argument.

No its not!

Benticks has a position in the team he gets in and under and tackles.

The question is being asked that if Carrazzo cannot fulfill his role as a defender where is his position?

 

[WeninRome]

u named the thread drop carazzo how are u not saying he should be dropped

I started the thread mate, now be a good boy and say sorry haha

 

[pidge]

I started the thread mate, now be a good boy and say sorry haha

yeh u started it sayin he should be dropped now ur saying he shouldnt make up ur mind

 

[Blue Dimension]

How is important? He constantly turns the ball over and is slow and un accountable.
I think Joey Anderson could do a much better job, its time we started to give him and Benji a go to see if they can make it or not

According to reports he did not perform well for the Bullants yesterday.

Carrazzo is an important part of our side and will not be dropped plain and simple.

 

[Cruiser23]

yeh u started it sayin he should be dropped now ur saying he shouldnt make up ur mind

What are you on about mate? I think you should read this thread again and then reply back because you are making no sense.

 

[WeninRome]

yeh u started it sayin he should be dropped now ur saying he shouldnt make up ur mind

hahah.. I started the thread and I do believe he should be dropped even if its for one week.

when have i stated otherwise champ?

 

[pidge]

Please Ratts drop him next week and bring in phiffer.

Does anyone else cringe when Carrots gets the ball? He is too slow and unaccountable. Gray smashed him last night. His use of the ball is terrible and is a real weaklink in our team.

I think we need to drop him for either Phyff or ando.

what does everyone else think?

and just recently u said he shouldnt be dropped

 

[WeninRome]

and just recently u said he shouldnt be dropped

can you please find the quote when i said he shouldn't be dropped?

I am willing to get pumped for this thread but I am not willing to admit i have subsequently changed my mind?

 

[walshy93]

Carrazzo - 83% effectiveness last night. Top 5 in the team.

 

[WeninRome]

Carrazzo - 83% effectiveness last night. Top 5 in the team.

do to 100% uncontested possessions

 

[Beloved]

No its not!

Benticks has a position in the team he gets in and under and tackles.

The question is being asked that if Carrazzo cannot fulfill his role as a defender where is his position?

Just like Carrazzo has a position in the team in the back pocket, clearing the ball from defense.

Don't like it? Take it up with Brett Ratten instead of b*tching about it on an internet forum.

 

[WeninRome]

Just like Carrazzo has a position in the team in the back pocket, clearing the ball from defense.

Don't like it? Take it up with Brett Ratten instead of b*tching about it on an internet forum.

Thats what internet forums are for champ....

for supporters of a club to have a discussion.

Its a public sphere mate, thats exactly the reason it is here for.

We all have differences of opinions, I have not made it a personal attack at all, and i haven't towards any other posters, but if you want to make it a personal attack on me then bring it on. If we all had the same opinions on things then this world would be a very, very boring place.

 

[WeninRome]

Just like Carrazzo has a position in the team in the back pocket, clearing the ball from defense.

Don't like it? Take it up with Brett Ratten instead of b*tching about it on an internet forum.

Also I think you will find, if you read the thread correctly, it was suggested that carrots can no longer play in the midfield but in a defensive role.

If he is unable to play this role then he should get dropped as he has no value to the team.

If he can play this role then he should stay as he adds value to the team.

 

[Cruiser23]

Also I think you will find, if you read the thread correctly, it was suggested that carrots can no longer play in the midfield but in a defensive role.

If he is unable to play this role then he should get dropped as he has no value to the team.

If he can play this role then he should stay as he adds value to the team.

I sure if this was your opening statement, you would get a lot more followers. I think you've just got everyone angry because of 'Drop Carrazzo'.

I mean i've stated it before i would have liked him to be dropped a few weeks ago because he doesn't have a place in our midfield and didn't seem to be able to hold down a defensive spot. I stick by my word that he isn't good enough to play in our midfield but from what i've seen in the past few weeks, he definately has a spot as a small defender and is important to our team.

He should not be dropped as of yet but he definately, in my mind, is much more likely to get dropped now because he doesn't add anything to our team offensively.

 

[Beloved]

Also I think you will find, if you read the thread correctly, it was suggested that carrots can no longer play in the midfield but in a defensive role.

If he is unable to play this role then he should get dropped as he has no value to the team.

If he can play this role then he should stay as he adds value to the team.

Hence why the Razzle has been playing in the back pocket lately?