DT Rucks 2012

[Artax]

Think I'll go Mummy & Jacobs, his draw is just too good to resist!

 

[The Smaller Warrior]

Renouf has had a pretty interrupted pre-season.

Redden may actually be an option for 4th Ruck imo.

 

[Jars458]

I have been burnt by not having Cox before and I don't plan to have that again. I can't see why he would not be up to last years output.

Sure if he does go downhinll then so be it, that will hurt much less than not haivng him whilst he dominates again.

Goodard Cox Ablett Champan Swann are the ones who have all smashed me in the past. I think I will have all of them.

 

[Keystone agony]

I have been burnt by not having Cox before and I don't plan to have that again. I can't see why he would not be up to last years output.

Sure if he does go downhinll then so be it, that will hurt much less than not haivng him whilst he dominates again.

Goodard Cox Ablett Champan Swann are the ones who have all smashed me in the past. I think I will have all of them.

A dark guy with hair that is similar to a palm tree but black that can jump over Sandilands, may be a reason. Although i hear he hasnt had the best PS and Cox has had a decent one.

I guess you could argue they avg 182 between them last year and that shouldn't change. But does cox avg 100 and NN 82 next year?

 

[AJP123]

Jacobs, Mumford, Stephenson and Giles for me.

Little unsure - would like to start with Cox, but I don't have the money at the moment (five premium mids including Barlow atm).

 

[Keystone agony]

Jacobs, Mumford, Stephenson and Giles for me.

Little unsure - would like to start with Cox, but I don't have the money at the moment (five premium mids including Barlow atm).

Grrrrrrr

Im unsure about Mumford although he is in my team atm, currently thinking about going a unique lower priced player, but still not sure if the extra money helps me anywhere but the kitty. It could mean getting Swan to start with, but i really dont want to start with Swanny. Mumford in the last 3 years on avg misses 4 games a year, has the same bye as Big O so round 12 could get interesting.

 

[portetdaspet]

At the moment I have Orren/Giles at R2 & R3 although I will have to wait for NAB Cup before I lock this in (obviously).

Whether or not I go with this will depend not only on their output (I'd like to see both could average 70ish), but also on the potential back and fwd rookies. If I can find 5 really good rookies at both positions, then set and forget in the rucks becomes more tempting.

Can't wait for Feb 17.

 

[portetdaspet]

Also is there anyone who actually thinks Sam Rowe will play more than a couple of games at Carlton this year?

I don't know much about him, but I find it a bit hard to believe he would fit into their structure without significant injuries.

 

[Jars458]

A dark guy with hair that is similar to a palm tree but black that can jump over Sandilands, may be a reason. Although i hear he hasnt had the best PS and Cox has had a decent one.

I guess you could argue they avg 182 between them last year and that shouldn't change. But does cox avg 100 and NN 82 next year?

Cox's average went up last year as NN got more game time. I think there's somethign in the theory that he is freed up a bit more to get ball around the ground if NN is playing in a forward attacking role. Worst comes to worst he drops a few points in average but for me will be a lock in the top 5 rucks for the season.

 

[NZ_Tiger]

Thoughts on Kruezer. Seems he's likely to play ruc/fwd.

 

[Funkalicous]

Thoughts on Kruezer. Seems he's likely to play ruc/fwd.

First ruck. Hampson will be mostly forward, and Warnock is having an injury-interrupted pre-season. Kruezer has really picked up his fitness as well.

Having said that, you should wait for pre-season...

 

[Hank93]

I'm pretty set with having Leuenberger, McEvoy, Giles and Stephenson I think. McEvoy will be very important once the byes come around.

 

[AJP123]

Grrrrrrr

Im unsure about Mumford although he is in my team atm, currently thinking about going a unique lower priced player, but still not sure if the extra money helps me anywhere but the kitty. It could mean getting Swan to start with, but i really dont want to start with Swanny. Mumford in the last 3 years on avg misses 4 games a year, has the same bye as Big O so round 12 could get interesting.

After some thought, I've concluded that having Jacobs and Mumford was a bad idea. With a 2/2/0 bye ratio in the rucks, come Round 13, I'll have an 11/11/8 ratio overall. The 8 bye players in Round 13 must come from the four positions, and if I have no bye players in the Rucks, I'll have a (best case scenario) 3/2/3 split of Byes in Round 13 for DEF/MID/FWD (any permuation of positions). This leads to two donuts, best case scenario.

However, with a 2/1/1 bye ratio in the rucks, come Round 13, I'll have a 3/2/2/1 split of Byes for DEF/MID/FWD/RUC. This only leads to one donut, best case scenario.

Thus, with Giles and Stephenson having a Round 11 and 12 bye respectively, I need one of my premiums to come from Round 13. At the moment, I've got McEvoy. The last premium can come from any bye round, so I've picked Cox, as he's the best ruck

Thus:

Cox/McEvoy/Giles/Stephenson. McEvoy is tentative, for now.

 

[Artax]

Ignore the Mummy Jacobs combo at your peril !

 

[cuzz is back]

whats the news on McIntosh can score big under priced

 

[nameless]

Mummy & Jacobs, Giles & Stephenson

If all play during bye rounds you won't get a donut.

 

[nameless]

whats the news on McIntosh can score big under priced

I'm going to wait until NAB to see how he goes with Goldie.

Although there's a good chance there will be more questions than answers provided throughout NAB as i'm sure even the coaching staff are weighing up how to use the two.

 

[Artax]

Mummy & Jacobs, Giles & Stephenson

If all play during bye rounds you won't get a donut.

Should be a popular combo in my eyes! I won't be toying with it at all

 

[JDWCE]

You could argue that Mummy has been known to have trouble with the tribunal on numerous occasions. I think he will have a fantastic average, dont get me wrong, but I'd be hesitant to lock and load him with his below average record

 

[nameless]

Anyone tempted by a HMAC & Kruezer starting lineup.

Sure frees up the cash elsewhere.

Basically means they become your two mid-prices/undervalue picks and you pick Guns n Rookies everywhere else...just toying with things.

 

[Wheedus]

Anyone tempted by a HMAC & Kruezer starting lineup.

Sure frees up the cash elsewhere.

Basically means they become your two mid-prices/undervalue picks and you pick Guns n Rookies everywhere else...just toying with things.

Yep. Toyed with this structure but soon realised that going 1 premo plus Giles, Big O and another rookie ruck freed up a whole lot more cash. Basically, the theory is Giles is likely to score reasonably well and close enough to what Kreuzer may achieve that it's not worth spending the extra $200k on Kreuzer.

 

[Still_Crowin23]

Why have i not seen 1 Cox/Sandi Giles/Stephenson combo?
am i missing something??

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Why have i not seen 1 Cox/Sandi Giles/Stephenson combo?
am i missing something??

Mine at the moment is McEvoy/Sandi/Giles/Stephenson with half a mind to go with Jolly as a lower cost option to McEvoy.
Cox is a bit expensive for start of season in my eyes.

 

[Hank93]

Why have i not seen 1 Cox/Sandi Giles/Stephenson combo?
am i missing something??

I'm not picking Cox as I can't see him averaging anything near his average of 107 last year. Age, late season injuries and NicNat is putting me off.

Sandilands is a possibility but durability is probably the main concern. Sandi's highest average in his career is 97, which should be achievable by the new premium rucks like Goldstein and Berger.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Anyone have thoughts on Jolly , apparently he's training pretty well.