Roast Dunne and Serpell

[rfctiger90]

It was posted on SEEK - it was posted on here at the time. Not a reach at all. Embarrassing

Did you even read what I wrote lol wouldn’t expect you to be able to read actually

 

[tigs2010]

 

[chriso11]

Do we know they ONLY posted on seek? Usually you still have recruiters searching even if it is on seek as well. Not to mention the industry is small, I’m sure they would’ve been sounding people out for the role. This is a real reach.

Real reach around too

 

[The Mighty]

Serpell can be shot out of a cannon over the new construction after his exit interview.

Serps is the Master Butcher made Louie look like the Swedish Chef from the Muppets.

 

[nineteen eighty]

No-one should be sacked UNTIL the club completes a review (independent) on what the fck happened this year with injuries. It may be that we've simply been unlucky but we do need to look into it. And it should not be Dunne, Serpell or Livingstone that leads this review.

It is obvious though that as a practice, the club is appointing "up and comers" into leadership positions rather than appointing established, top echelon leaders.

Shane Dunne had no CEO experience other than the running of the Tigers leisure activities. He may be talented. He may be a worthy CEO. I'm simply calling out that it was an internal hire of an "up and comer" in this instance.

Serpell is similar in that he had not previously led a High Performance unit himself. He was a part of but did not lead. He may be unbelievably talented.

Tim Livingstone as the GM Football Performance would have been central in the decision making. If not the decision maker who made the recommendation to Dunne and the Board to employ Serpell. He's been at the club a long time and may be great at this job. Regardless, he is not squeaky clean if it is found that there are "areas of improvement" in the conditioning space.

 

[Wooden Robot]

Shane Dunne had no CEO experience other than the running of the Tigers leisure activities. He may be talented. He may be a worthy CEO. I'm simply calling out that it was an internal hire of an "up and comer" in this instance.

Not saying he's good, bad or otherwise (but I lean towards average), but CEO experience is not the be all and end all.
You have to start somewhere.
I've worked for or dealt with plenty of big companies where the CEO was an absolute lemon, while there were plenty of talented people forced into much lesser roles.
If the CEO fails, he'll simply move on and get another CEO gig and probably fail again and again. But it won't prevent him from getting that next CEO job.

 

[Broad Housewife]

dunny and slurpell, the blumpkin brothers

 

[Achilles Heel]

No-one should be sacked UNTIL the club completes a review (independent) on what the fck happened this year with injuries. It may be that we've simply been unlucky but we do need to look into it. And it should not be Dunne, Serpell or Livingstone that leads this review.

It is obvious though that as a practice, the club is appointing "up and comers" into leadership positions rather than appointing established, top echelon leaders.

Shane Dunne had no CEO experience other than the running of the Tigers leisure activities. He may be talented. He may be a worthy CEO. I'm simply calling out that it was an internal hire of an "up and comer" in this instance.

Serpell is similar in that he had not previously led a High Performance unit himself. He was a part of but did not lead. He may be unbelievably talented.

Tim Livingstone as the GM Football Performance would have been central in the decision making. If not the decision maker who made the recommendation to Dunne and the Board to employ Serpell. He's been at the club a long time and may be great at this job. Regardless, he is not squeaky clean if it is found that there are "areas of improvement" in the conditioning space.

Absolutely the review should be external , like in 2016 , these three are reviewing themselves at the moment , it’s not bad luck it’s bad management , the Board should be overseeing them but el presidents us too busy looking at the 4 that flemington

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

I'm not getting involved in this rubbishing of the Club's personnel...
I'll wait till the new Club buildings are built and being utilized...and then see how we are going...
Big ask in my book to come in...rebuild the clubhouse and Team with new set of coaches...

 

[nineteen eighty]

Not saying he's good, bad or otherwise (but I lean towards average), but CEO experience is not the be all and end all.
You have to start somewhere.
I've worked for or dealt with plenty of big companies where the CEO was an absolute lemon, while there were plenty of talented people forced into much lesser roles.
If the CEO fails, he'll simply move on and get another CEO gig and probably fail again and again. But it won't prevent him from getting that next CEO job.

Agree with your point.

The point I was making is that our recent culture is to promote up (whether it’s internal which is the preference or external).

I would love to understand who was interviewed for the CEO’s role and Serpell’s. Livingstones I understand given his length of tenure. Note that Dunne had been at the Tiges for years before his big promotion.

I’m not saying that promoting from within is wrong. It’s absolutely the right thing to do as long as the right training and support is given to ensure they are ready for the role. And the right mentoring when they are in the role.

I’m not critical of Dunne but I do wish that he was on the front foot re an external & independent review of our injury situation. It’s not a witch-hunt that we are after. Simply that we are doing right by the players and the kids in developing them.

 

[richoatthedisco]

OP's a ****wit.

 

[cairo tiger]

both of these muppetts can get stuffed

 

[Truetiger]

OP's a ****wit.

So you don’t believe there is any possible way; it is something else besides him. Let’s have a look; he has been at the club for what, not even 12 months yet this has been an issue for three years. I am no good at maths but it says it’s something else rather than Serpell.

 

[sanaya]

i for one think they're doing fine it's just bad luck

we can revisit this thread in 30 years after our next flag

 

[Daka]

Well then it falls on Dunne. And by extension oRorke

I think O'Rourke is soft as president, rarely speaks about issues that are affecting us as a club.

like the St Kilda president say what you want about him, but he is taking no prisoners.
like no wonder the club lately has been suffering on-field, like if you can't get it right off-field than you won't be good on-field.

Like with fixture and everything we have gone from a Premiership dynasty to accepting mediocrity & having like no big games, big time-slot games, I get we not going well but it doesn't help either and it's no surprise memberships have been doown.

 

[RFCGloryJC]

Absolutely the review should be external , like in 2016 , these three are reviewing themselves at the moment , it’s not bad luck it’s bad management , the Board should be overseeing them but el presidents us too busy looking at the 4 that flemington

Yes, must be an external group, like Ernst & Young previously.
We are on track for, at best, 10 wins from 69 games, three seasons.
Maybe 9 in 69.
The lowest ebb in our club's history.
Talented players leave en masse as the club continues to implode, becomes self-perpetuating for a generation.

 

[Lacustrus]

I'm not getting involved in this rubbishing of the Club's personnel...
I'll wait till the new Club buildings are built and being utilized...and then see how we are going...
Big ask in my book to come in...rebuild the clubhouse and Team with new set of coaches...

Poor and non existent recruiting , allowing premiership players to play too long and go out on their terms , has slowed the regeneration of the team .
Just look at the swans tonight

 

[wegetpumped]

No-one should be sacked UNTIL the club completes a review (independent) on what the fck happened this year with injuries. It may be that we've simply been unlucky but we do need to look into it. And it should not be Dunne, Serpell or Livingstone that leads this review.

It is obvious though that as a practice, the club is appointing "up and comers" into leadership positions rather than appointing established, top echelon leaders.

Shane Dunne had no CEO experience other than the running of the Tigers leisure activities. He may be talented. He may be a worthy CEO. I'm simply calling out that it was an internal hire of an "up and comer" in this instance.

Serpell is similar in that he had not previously led a High Performance unit himself. He was a part of but did not lead. He may be unbelievably talented.

Tim Livingstone as the GM Football Performance would have been central in the decision making. If not the decision maker who made the recommendation to Dunne and the Board to employ Serpell. He's been at the club a long time and may be great at this job. Regardless, he is not squeaky clean if it is found that there are "areas of improvement" in the conditioning space.

How do people come up with Serpell? That is the problem. When we have been like this for about 3 years, is it beyond common sense? Doctor, is he right to go? Yes, all good. Serpell tries to get players fit, and he breaks down. Serpell the problem? A player goes down in play! Doctor, what happened? I don't know; let's blame Serpell. Come on, put your thinking caps on for once.

 

[wegetpumped]

Absolutely the review should be external , like in 2016 , these three are reviewing themselves at the moment , it’s not bad luck it’s bad management , the Board should be overseeing them but el presidents us too busy looking at the 4 that flemington

A review should be done internally, and all face the music and act properly by putting their hands up and saying, "This is where I farked up." The others do the same, and then they work together to fix the problems by first recognizing the mistakes.

 

[Tiges1229]

All weak as piss and turning the club into a rabble

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

All weak as piss and turning the club into a rabble

Mate as a Club we are a rabble...stone cold last on the AFL Ladder...
That's how we were left after 3 Cups...gutted like a salmon...
Gutted of players, draft picks, Coaches, Clubhouse and Admin...
The only thing the Club currently has a surfeit of and to show...is player injuries and free kicks against total...for yonks!
As a Club we are leaders in those...
Suck it up sunshine...
No-one has ever said it was going to be easy rebuilding a football Dynasty with an extra team added to the Comp!

 

[Tiges1229]

L

Mate as a Club we are a rabble...stone cold last on the AFL Ladder...
That's how we were left after 3 Cups...gutted like a salmon...
Gutted of players, draft picks, Coaches, Clubhouse and Admin...
The only thing the Club currently has a surfeit of and to show...is player injuries and free kicks against total...for yonks!
As a Club we are leaders in those...
Suck it up sunshine...
No-one has ever said it was going to be easy rebuilding a football Dynasty with an extra team added to the Comp!

we are a rabble full stop that’s the problem always an excuse

 

[nineteen eighty]

How do people come up with Serpell? That is the problem. When we have been like this for about 3 years, is it beyond common sense? Doctor, is he right to go? Yes, all good. Serpell tries to get players fit, and he breaks down. Serpell the problem? A player goes down in play! Doctor, what happened? I don't know; let's blame Serpell. Come on, put your thinking caps on for once.

At no point in time did I blame Serpell. I called out that the club needs to undertake a review...preferable with someone external to the club. Let's get to the bottom of this and if required, take action.

 

[wegetpumped]

At no point in time did I blame Serpell. I called out that the club needs to undertake a review...preferable with someone external to the club. Let's get to the bottom of this and if required, take action.

Are you speaking on behalf of the people which i stated or yourself?

 

[Yze does it]

A review should be done internally, and all face the music and act properly by putting their hands up and saying, "This is where I farked up." The others do the same, and then they work together to fix the problems by first recognizing the mistakes.

sit around singing kumbaya ~ drinking tiger balm kool aid.

Dunne is talking flags in 5 years.

...........lucky no start year given.

this has got 37 year drought written all over it. ... Can't sack anyone ........selectors won't ever drop anone.