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fodzilla said:
This was floated a while back, didn't get a whole lot of feedback but the consensus seemed to be you were stuck with the players you drafted unless you could trade them out.
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I think it's a bit different now that drafting has ended. It's not like you can get rid of a player you regretted drafting and then proceed to steal someone elses player one pick before their turn. It also allows for more flexible trading.

But it's not up to me, I'm happy with what everybody else wants.
 

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FB: Z Tuohy - A Carlile - J Hombsch
HB: A Mackie - L Henderson - G Ibbotson
MF: J Harbrow - T Boak (c) - J Viney
HF: B Whitecross - B Reid - L Jetta
FF: T Varcoe - C Dixon - J Westhoff
OB: S Mumford - S Mitchell - C Guthrie
IC: E Yeo - N Suban - S Wright - (Jack Trengove)

EM: M Brown - M Jamar - J Lyons

At the defensive end I have 3 very capable tall defenders in Henderson, Carlile and Hombsch, all of whom are capable playing on the gorilla's as well as the leading forwards. Carlile was one of the most important players for Port this season, his defensive work has improved out of sight. Hombsch improved out of sight this season after taking the 3rd tall forward and the number 1 or 2 on various occasions. Henderson has been swung forward and back most of his career but I've decided to settle him in defence with his ability to go with the hard leading CHF's. Zach Tuohy as a small defender is a coaches dream. Beats his opponent on most occassions and provides very good rebound out of defence as well. Mackie and Ibbotson are class medium defenders, both with intercept abilities, and both capable of playing on talls and smalls. Harbrow will also rotate into defence on occasion as well.

The midfield is a well balanced one. Guthrie as a tagger, Boak and Mitchell as classy inside mids, as well as hard nuts Viney, Whitecross and Yeo rotating through there too. Then on the outside with speed and good delivery you have Lewis Jetta, Harbrow, Varcoe, Suban, Wright and Trengove rotating through the middle, with Shane Mumford tapping the ball to them, this midfield has a balance of inside and outside.

The forward line is quite comfortably the weakest area of the three. Ben Reid is capable of kicking goals, but most of the time he's up there as the #2 forward with Travis Cloke. Charlie Dixon has shown himself capable as a forward and ruckman, his contested marking is a key for his game, and isolating him in the goal square can be dangerous for the opposition. Justin Westhoff has shown himself as a quality 3rd tall and kicks goals with regularity. The biggest weakness is the lack of quality medium or small forward, but hopefully a rotation of midfielders can help that situation out.

The depth is impressive also, with a quality defender in Mitch Brown missing out on the 22. His work for West Coast is very important to that side. Mark Jamar is also a quality ruckman, the difference between when he does and doesn't play for Melbourne is stark. Lyons is a good, young inside mid with a lot of promise.
 
B: Dustin Fletcher - Steven May - Tom Langdon
HB: Matthew Jaensch - Jake Carlisle - Matthew Suckling
C: Bradley Hill - Ryan Griffen - Toby Greene
HF: Adam Treloar - Kurt Tippett - Tom Lynch
F: Dayne Zorko - Jeremy McGovern - Charlie Cameron
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer - Nathan Jones - Mitch Wallis
IC: Alex Fasolo - Ed Curnow - Sam Gibson - (Billy Hartung)
EMG: Max Gawn - Alex Woodward - Kane Lambert

Defenders:

Versatility and flexibility. Carlisle and May both very capable young KPDs (May topping the league for spoils this year), and Fletcher and Langdon can comfortably play on either 3rd talls or smaller types dependent on matchups, as well as being strong intercept marks (along with Carlisle). Lots of rebound and penetration from Suckling and Jaensch at HB. Fasolo's foot skills also let him slot in on a flank if need be, allowing Suckling to move up on a wing and concentrate on using that penetrating kick delivering inside 50.

Midfielders:

Jones, Griffen, Treloar, Greene and Zorko provide heaps of inside grunt as well as real burst and spread. Hill, Gibson and Curnow can run all day (and fast) and link up between defence and attack - Hill is damaging delivering inside 50, Gibson is everywhere between the arcs. Curnow and Wallis have both regularly taken huge scalps (notably Fyfe and Selwood for Wallis) as taggers or going head-to-head - the former able to do a job on even your speedy damaging outside types - and both are able to put a shift in on the ball as well. Hartung offers an injection of pace and endurance as the sub, as the Hawks have utilised to great effect on several occasions last year. Kreuzer is obviously cactus for Round 1 at this point, but if fit, he's more than solid with his tapwork while offering plenty in the way of follow-up tackling, pressure and disposal. Tippett is an able chop-out, and Gawn is quality depth.

Forwards:

As I've posted earlier in the thread, the raw recent numbers won't stack up against some forward lines posted here, but the potential and balance are there. Tippett is a formidable main target, and along with McGovern, forms a very mobile, strong-marking duo that are accurate in front of goal. McGovern can also be swung back to great effect (playing in defence for half the year putting a dampener on last year's tally), and could be swapped with Carlisle if need be. Tom Lynch (Crows) can run the pants off the third defender, creating space and linking up with the midfield, but is also capable enough to be a genuine goalkicker and target inside 50, topping the Crows' goalkicking when Tex Walker was injured a couple of years ago. Zorko and Cameron are dangerous small forwards that are frenetic in creating pressure and locking the ball inside the 50, as well as hitting the scoreboard. Zorko can obviously rotate through the middle, and Cameron can use his speed well on the wing as well. Fasolo is also another option playing as a negating HF shutting down rebounding HBs, or a tricky small forward, off the bench.

Depth:

Gawn: big, big dude, moves very well for his size and can do some damage up forward. Woodward: very solid ball-winning mid, goes in hard and is frenetic in second efforts and one-percenters. Only kept out by a bad run with injuries and a very strong Hawks side. Lambert: another tenacious ball-winning mid, also more than capable of kicking goals, from the midfield or as a small forward. Last two are last year's Liston winner and runner-up respectively, for what it's worth :p.

Welp, don't know how that got that long. :|
 
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FB: Ben Stratton - Luke McPharlin - Cameron Sutcliffe
HB: Beau Waters - Josh Gibson - Brandon Ellis
C: Andrew Gaff - Tom Liberatore - Callan Ward
HF: Harry Cunningham - Nick Riewoldt(c) - Paul Chapman
F: Lindsay Thomas - Mitch Clark - Jake Stringer
Foll: Matthew Lobbe - Dayne Beams - Lachie Neale
IC: Tom Scully - Sam Mayes - Nathan Hrovat - Taylor Duryea - Jarryn Geary - Aaron Mullett - Nathan Brown


Defence: I'll try not to sound arrogant, but this is an amazing defence. McPharlin is a top 5 key defender when fit, he basically defends as well as someone like Talia, and rebounds as well as someone like Hurley. Gibson speaks for himself, BnF in a premiership year and vital cog in Hawthorn's defence. That brings me to Stratton, another premiership defender in this defence and a lock in Hawthorn's 22, loved by all Hawthorn supporters and perhaps underrated. Sutcliffe and Ellis are coming off career best years, Sutcliffe finishing 7th in Freo's best and fairest and Ellis making the AA squad after averaging 25+ disposals a game. Waters has had a tough time with injury but is defender who is proven quality, and has shown that when on the park. He was All Australian in his last full season(2012).

Midfield:
A very good mix of inside and outside. Liberatore is without a doubt one of the best clearance players in the league, perhaps only behind GAJ and Josh Kennedy. He's a tackling machine and unlike some predominantly inside players, he can use the ball well. Along with Ward and Beams, he's the third out and out gun in this midfield. Beams and Ward are both elite midfielders, Beams is one of the few mids in the competition who regularly hits the scoreboard, both of these players know how to handle tags and are only going to improve. Neale and Gaff may not be as recognised as the other names in my midfield, however they still averaged around mid 20's in the disposal count. Gaff has been tagged since his second year, and there's a reason for that, he's deadly without a tag. Lobbe shouldered Port's ruck load for the whole year, not only is he a great hitout ruckman, he applies an insane amount of pressure for a ruckman. He avearaged 6.5 tackles last year. Scully may be scrutinised but he's a very handy two way player who works hard. Chapman, Mayes, Hrovat and Cunningham will also rotate through the midfield

Forward line:
Riewoldt is the hardest running forward in the comp bar none, once again led the competition in marks and was rewarded with an AA spot. Still very capable. Clark has had a tough couple years, but everybody remembers what he did during his brief time on field with Melbourne, he was one of the best goal kickers in the competition, admittedly his stint was very limited and he's largely unproven. There was a reason Melbourne paid so much for him though , his career and Brisbane wasn't a let down. Stringer is a beast of a kid and kicked 22 goals in his last 9 games, along with Thomas who despite being hated, is proven quality, you can mark him down for 2 goals a game. Cunningham did great jobs on Harvey in the prelim and Smith in the GF, he was rewarded at the end of the season with a top 10 BnF finish. Chapman is Chapman. Mayes is as silky as the come and is primed for a break out year, although he can be inconsistent.

Depth:
Geary, good player who's underrated, very capable and was there was even speculation that St Kilda had considered him as a Riewoldt heir. Mullett had an average season but still showed a lot of promise. Brown is a decent defender and is appropriate depth.
 
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Romm, you do sound arrogant with the defence that has 1 KPD, a midfielder and a bloke who struggles to get on the park.
 
eth-dog said:
Romm, you do sound arrogant with the defence that has 1 KPD, a midfielder and a bloke who struggles to get on the park.
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Ellis can easily play as a rebounder. If my defence only has 1 KPD then I'd like to know which defences do. Gibson is a very capable second defender. Waters struggles to get on the park but we can't exactly predict injuries for this comptetion. I have two elite KPD's, a premiership playing third tall, an elite rebounder and a quality small defender and HBF.
 

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B: Dane Rampe * Tom McDonald * Ricky Henderson
HB: Michael Johnson * Lachie Keefe * Xavier Ellis
C: Isaac Smith * Tom Rockliff * Jack Steven
HF: Brad Ebert * Josh Jenkins * Richard Douglas
FF: Jamie Cripps * Jack Gunston * Jamie Elliot
Foll: Sam Jacobs * Josh P Kennedy * Kane Cornes

I: Anthony Miles * Chris Masten * Andrejs Everett * Matt Shaw (s)

E: Craig Bird * Ben Griffiths * Mark Blicavs

To put it simply I think i've got the most mobile side and the side with the most running power in this competition, even if I've yet to really settle on what's the best combination (do I drop Henderson for another mid? Drop Ellis for another tall either forward or back? One ruck? two?) i've got nfi, but I still reckon the 25 is rock solid.

The defenders are probably the weakness with Tom McDonald and Lachie Keefe still young, but they've shown they can do a job on almost anyone, and with cool heads, ripping ball users and quality interceptors like Johnson, Rampe and Ellis surrounding them the mix isn't too bad. Rampe and even Everett too have shown they can do quality lock down jobs as well.

The mids are obviously the strength here. Two inside beasts in Rockliff and JPK being fed by a quality tap ruckman in sauce Jacobs will cause anyone issues, but the runners are where I reckon i've got the advantage. Smith, Masten, Steven and Cornes (add in steeplechaser Blicavs) are all endurance animals who can match it with anyone, and guys like Ebert, Douglas, Miles and Shaw are all very willing workers, gut runners and high possession winners. No real 'specialist kickers' amongst my midfield crew, but none you could say are real butchers either. I've also got two taggers depending on the kind of player that needs a job done on him, Cornes for more running players and Bird sitting outside the 22 who's more of an inside basher.

The forward line lacks height (unless I play tall with Ben Griffiths at CHF), but doesn't lack goals. Jenkins and Gunston form a young, potent yet mobile kpf combo that booted a combined 98 goals in 2014, and are ably supported by two quality marking Jamie's on the ground, with Eliott always good for a hanger and a couple of goals and Cripps kicking a goal in 17 of 19 games last year. Add in genuine goal kicking midfielders like Smith and Rockliff and the goals are there. The only thing it's probably lacking is a genuine forward pressure specialist.

TLDR: the side is light on key backs and will probably lean on a slightly undersized but experienced third tall AA defender to marshall the troops, is flushed with mids who all use the ball well and run like the absolute clappers and has a really good spread of goal kickers through the front half and the midfield and the combination can be switched up to play taller, shorter, inside-ier, outside-ier depending on the opponent and the situation.
Double TLDR, I've created Hawthorn.
 
eth-dog said:
Romm, you do sound arrogant with the defence that has 1 KPD, a midfielder and a bloke who struggles to get on the park.
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The entire defence is under 193 as well.

#smacktalk
 
Team: The Brownlow's

FB: Shaw - Talia - Bugg
HB: Mzungu - Richards - Enright
C: Hoskin-Elliott - Watson - Rich
HF: Wingard - Walker - Cooney
FF: Goodes - McIntosh - Walters
R: Pyke - Swan - Judd
IC: Hocking - Ambrose - Young - (Lloyd)

EM: Longer - Lonergan - Sheed

After looking at my finished side, I am pretty damn happy with it. I have a great mix of youth and experience with a pretty good spine (what I focused on in drafting). A team that boasts 7 Brownlow winners is nothing to be sneezed at, and a headache for any opposition coach.

Defence:
Talls, check. Run and carry, check. Damaging/penetrating kicks, check. This is a back six that can handle any forward line that's thrown at it. There are Talia and Richards to sort out the big who'ers, with Enright and Shaw able to play tall or small. Bugg and Mzungu round off this back line with hardness and pace respectively.

Mid:
A midfield of Judd, Swan and Watson, who do you tag? With Rich and Hoskin-Elliott roaming out on the wings it covers both inside and outside ball getting with ease. All 5 of these blokes are able to rest in the forward line and be just as damaging there. I do see the rucks as the weakest part of the team, but with Longer as depth, the ruck stocks are solid for years to come.

Forward:
I'm really happy with the way the forwards look. The resting ruck sitting at FF with Walters and Wingard crumbing at their feet is a scary thought. Goodes sitting in the FP but acting like a FF adds another dimension to this forward line. Then you have Big Tex roaming around the 50 arc with Cooney breaking lines and slotting goals himself, I don't envy a backline that has to line up on this 6.

Depth:
The depth on this team is probably lacking a KP player, but with speed and youth of Sheed, Lloyd and Lonergan paired with arguably the best tagger in the game, Hocking to show them what hard footy is all about, I think makes up for it.

That'll do for my terrible attempt at a write up.
 

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Shermy said:
But I said it can play tall or small, believe Mr Pup Holder, believe :p
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Okay, let's put it against Hawthorn's forward line. Talia take Roughead. Richards takes Gunston. Who takes Hale?
 
FB: K. Simpson - R. Thompson - T. Mohr
HB: S. Burgoyne - M. Hurley - H. Lumumba
C: D. Pearce - M. Boyd - M. White
HF: H. Hartlett - J. Podsiadly - M. Duncan
FF: J. White - J. Daniher - M. Wright
R: P. Ryder - J. Selwood - N. Dal Santo
IC: D. Mackay - L. Dunstan - C. O'Shea
Sub: J. Neade

EM: M. Hallahan - J. Blair - C. Petracca


There'll be a lot of run and carry from this team, sending the opposition's moves forward straight back with high defensive pressure, quick ball movement and spread. Flexibility and versatility are also key.

Two solid defenders in Rory and Michael who can shut down the stay at home and mobile key forwards of the opposition, with Hair Bun Hurley able to provide plenty of rebound and attack as a CHB. Bear Man Mohr is capable of working over a resting ruck or medium sized forward and K Simpson a very solid small defender. Lumumba provides plenty of run off half back and Burgoyne is all class and able to set up attacks with his deadly left boot. Both are more than able to spend quality time in the midfield. Cam O'Shea comes off the bench for rotations where needed, or depending on match ups, starts on the ground with Mohr out of the side and another mid or small added to the starting 22 mix.

Once again, plenty of hard working, running players in the engine room of the team lead by Joel Selwood. Opted out of having a genuine tagger and going with a whole ground team defence attitude for the boys to put constant pressure on the opposition when they get their grubby little mits on the Sherrin. Team will work to leave the wings open for Pearcey and Whitey to do their magic in space, who will rotate through the forward line also. Selwood and Boyd will put their bodies on the line to extract the ball from contests and Nicky Dal using his class on the outside to deliver and feed the ball forward. The boys will be well served at stoppages by Ryder, who also gives great second and third efforts at ground level and is just as valuable when spending time inside 50, kicking banana goals from the boundary, 40 metres out. Mackay and Dunstan off the bench gives the mids a chop out.

The forward line lacks a genuine superstar but will be served well by the old man Pods and future star Daniher. Pods plays smart and leads up well and will be able to spend time playing loose in defence, or doing the old switcharoo with Hurls. Joe is ready to take his game up a level and will be a challenge for defenders, taking huge leaps for huge grabs and working at ground level like a man half his size. Joe can spend time in the ruck but mostly the back up rucking will be left to White. When forward, White will just work hard providing leads and creating space and contests as you can't trust him to do much else. Hartlett and Duncan are both A grade Mid/Fwds, they work hard, provide plenty around the contest and know where the big sticks are. Both will split their time in the forward half and midfield. Wright will crumb and kick goals and stuff. Depending on match ups, Neade may start on the ground, White may come out of the side, and Blair comes in and changes the dynamic of the forward 6. Otherwise, Neade comes on as sub and dances around the fatigued opposition and kicks 10 goals in the last quarter to win the game every time.
 
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Okay, let's put it against Hawthorn's forward line. Talia take Roughead. Richards takes Gunston. Who takes Hale?
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The shortest bloke, and if need be :p. I'd put a resting ruckman on Hale in that instance, so in my case its H Mac or Longer.
 
B: Colin Garand - Sam Rowe - Neville Jetta
HB: Courtenay Dempsey - Eric Mackenzie - Shaun Atley
C: David Zaharakis - Dan Hannebery - David Armitage
HF: Marcus Bontempelli - Tom Lynch - Shaun Higgins
F: Hayden Ballantyne - Tom Bellchambers - Stewart Crameri
R: Stefan Martin - Gary Ablett Jnr - Liam Shiels
I/C: Tom Mitchell - Brent Stanton - Jonathan Simpkin
SUB: Nakia Cockatoo

EMG: Jason Ashby - Shane Biggs - Jake Melksham



Not going to write much. So here it goes.

Defence - Solid defence, with two key pillars in Eric Mackenzie and Sam Rowe. Colin Garland is suited perfectly for that 3rd tall. Neville Jetta as a quality lock down defender to take the oppositions small forward. Dempsey and Atley breaking the lines of half back while being defensively accountable as well. Will have Stanton in a utility role, across halfback and in the midfield.


Midfield - Alright, so you're going to tag GAJ, you'll still have Zaharakis, Hannebery, Armitage, Mitchell, Stanton to be accountable for and to a lesser extent Bontempelli, Simpkin, Higgins, Melksham and Biggs when they play in the midfield as well. Not only that, I have a ruckman who puts up numbers that of a 4 or 5th string midfielder.Shiels is an excellent tagger who is offensively effective as well, not only will your best midfielder work overtime to break the tag, but be defensively aware of Shiels.


Forward - While not the best forward line, I feel as though It's a forward line that could still cause headaches. Lynch and Bellchambers to be #1 and #2. Crameri to finally be able to play the 3rd tall role. Your team will still need a 4th KPD to play on Bontempelli. The flexibility of the forward line is great, there will be times I'll have Bellchambers in the ruck, with Martin on the wing, leaving my forward with a little bit more space. Ballantyne is the best small forward in the competition and you'll still need to have a quality defender on Higgins.
 
B: Dale Morris - David Astbury - Seb Tape
HB: Jarrad McVeigh - Heath Grundy - Gary Rohan
C: Dom Tyson - Jordan Lewis - David Swallow
HF: Jack Ziebell - Josh J Kennedy - Adam Tomlinson
F: Cyril Rioli - Sam Reid - Luke Breust
R: Zac Smith - Steve Johnson - Ollie Wines
I/C: Josh Kelly - Matt Rosa - Andrew Carrazzo - Hayden Crozier (sub)
Emerg: Jed Anderson - Jason Johanisen - Andrew Moore

Ok on paper a very solid team with a nice balance.
Defence: Might be a weakness, but the key defenders are well covered in up and coming Astbury, premiership defender Grundy and the underrated Morris and it is full of good users of the ball. Rohan provides speed coming of the half back line and creates good run. McVeigh is a superstar who provides great leadership and midfield rotation.

Midfield: An excellent mix of hardness and skill. A team built on contested ball winners, Wines, Lewis, Tyson, Ziebell, Swallow, Johnson and McVeigh is one seriously good midfield unit. Kelly will be a superstar and provides the teams gut running as well as Rioli adding flashes of brilliance.

Forward: Undoubtedly the strength of this team. One word, Goals. This forward line is stacked with goal kickers. Kennedy and Reid provide the focal points, Tomlinson is the hard running forward working up and back. Add in one of the best small forwards in the game in Breust and Cyril and you have a a high scoring forward line. Stevie J is a luxury as to have spending 50% of his time forward. Crozier is a dangerous sub who can impact the scoreboard and turn a match.

I am very happy with this team, would have loved a better ruckman but could be worse. I believe this team can mix it with other teams. The forward line is the difference.
 

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