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and what I am trying to say is I don't care how they went over the cap... what I will always wonder and many others... is if they were playing by the rules... how they would have they remedied the problem... would they have delisted a high priced footballer or cut a few young just drafted players... I tend to think the latter... but we will never know as they cheated instead...
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Or perhaps a few over the hill has beens.....but then I don't think picking out some other names in hindsight proves anything...so perhaps they wouldn't have delisted Hird....
Nice to see you ducked my question about the moratorium. One for the too hard basket? Were Nth over the cap when they traded for Carey ..... is their sucess tainted .... should we have any respect for their success ....bloody cheats.....just like this year...true colors shining through.....
What you are really saying is that you'll grasp at any straw rather than admit that some other club is capable of sustained success to rival your own clubs.....bloody cheat....always looking for an excuse....bloody umpires....bloody tribunal.....bloody priority draft picks....your indian name would have been "always sooking"...
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Heh Heh Heh, good one Dave
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dont worry dave, ive noticed rooboy makes a habit of it
By memory Dave... when we recruited "The King" (please use correct terminology in future)... we had to give up on another good footballer... because he wanted more money and we would have been cheating if we kept him... does the name D. Kickett remind you of anything??? another time Essendon offered big money for another clubs player... when they couldn't afford it...
Dave have you any substantial proof North Melbourne were over the Salary Cap???
by accident only... if you ask a question of me... (use a ?) and I read it... I will try my best to answer... so instead of changing the subject walshy... why don't you answer some questions... a lot have been asked about your club...
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Hmmm. That one must have struck a nerve.
And as I followed up with, I admitted that the statement was deliberately mischievous. Nontheless, it was a statement based in fact as Liberatore did shirk an issue where he may have got hurt.
Could you imagine the outcry if it was Wayne Campbell or Matthew Knights who did the same thing?
Dave... have I hit a nerve buddy??? normally you don't namecall and get abusive...
your indian name would have been "always sooking"... and blow it out your arse...
your indian name would have been "always sooking"... and blow it out your arse...
ive already expressed my views on this topic on about page 4, but for your advantage here it is againwhat is the problem
we cheated the cap (as did most clubs), there is no denying that, we also tried to cover it up....but we were found out and we were punished
we were fined massive amounts of money, and we lost draft picks, something that is going to hurt us for years and years to come
melbourne cheated the cap, and tried to hide it, yet there name goes un mentioned when people talk of cheats, carlton cheated the cap, a number of times and won a premiership in that time yet there name goes unmentioned
essendon is doing nothing wrong here, the story came from nixon, essendon has not acted on it as far as im aware of, so what is the problem?
Tony Lockett smacked the living crap out of caven, by doing so he cheated, but he also was punished for it, whats the difference
James Hird pushed a player in the face, by doing so he was cheating and he was punished by a free kick being payed against him
essendon went over the cap, they were found out, they cheated, but they were also punished, more than any other club has been
I hope you mean in just this thread because there's no way that is true. Take your hypocritical president (not saying ours isn't either, they are BOTH as bad as each other) coming out and holding a press conference JUST to label Carlton "serial salary cap breachers". Wasted everyone's time in doing so.Originally posted by Blues2001
i was just making the point that essendon isnt the only club in this position yet they are the only club that constantly and unfairly gets labelled as cheats
What a load of crap! Carlton have constantly been bagged in here as being salary cap cheats!
The only difference is, Carlton admitted it, but Essendon weren't even honest enough to do that.
Stop sooking.
so is tony lockett a cheat for knocking out caven
wayne carey gave away a few free kicks in his time is he a cheat
playing outside the laws is cheating...but in all these cases....a crime was done and a penalty was handed done
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Aha! Got one back! Lights up cigar, aaaahhh
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Mmm does he work with computer networks I wonder?
Funny about that given he wasn't delisted until a year after Carey made his debut......
Do you have any definitive proof Essendon were over the salary cap in 1990 when Kickett was recruited?
I do, though I doubt that you'd take my word for it, seeing as how I support a club of proven cheats and all. Seeing as how you asked though...sorry it took so long
Me and Wayne (not the "King", the other Wayne) were chewing the fat the other day over a bourbon & coke or three. After he'd snorted his third line he say back and said to me:
"It's like this Dave"
"If only all the clubs would take a leaf out of Essendon and Melbourne's books we'd all be a lot better off. We made a big mistake with the moratorium back in the nineties. You should have seen how far a couple of clubs were over. Big Jack had steam coming out of his ears when we told him. Threatened to sic the mafia boys onto us. And Nth, don't get me started on them. The only reason we went easy on them is that Bob had some pictures of me and this cute piece of arse I picked up at the Metro that he was threatening to show the missus. She'd go ape **** if she saw them. If I ever get any dirt on him he's for the high jump".
"The money the league would make from under the table payments for favourable draws, umpiring, tribunal hearings and the like would really be a big boon. It could be used to help the WAFC pay off their debt, though why anyone'd want to help those ****ers is beyond me. If they can't manage their own debt, screw 'em. I mean am I right?"
"Your right Wayne" says I.
"Then", he continues, "the money from the 'fines' that are levied on those clubs that are 'caught' over the limit (really it's just another form of bribe he later explained) could be used to help pay for the losses incurred down at crown instead of raising the subscription fees for AFL memberships or gate prices at the 'G. AFL members, god they're a bunch of ****ing whiners, I mean do they really think they have a right to go to the Grand Final? Gimme a break."
"Eventually we'd end up with a situation where every club was competing to see who could lay the biggest bribe. Naturally whoever could would be awarded the flag on the spot. Think of the benefits!" he cried.
(he was really rocking at this point)
"We could do away with the competition altogether. No more whining about unfair draws. No more squealing from the non-victorian clubs about wanting home finals. God they **** me, if they wanted equality they should have started their own competition. Where was I (snorting another line)? No more MCC giving us **** about tv rights. Best of all, no more Sandy Roberts."
"Player longevity would be enhanced dramatically, injuries would become unHIRD of. Waverley Park could be saved. Then again, who wants it other than a few Hawthorn turds? Collo would be rapt as the problems with people getting in a docklands would be fixed in a jif! I mean I know it would be a bit of a culture shock, but fans have adapted pretty well so far, except those whining turds in Melbourne, so I think they'll eventually find something else to do."
"Enough talk, I'm off to the Daily Planet for a bit of action".
At this point I finished my drink, picked up some of the excess cash Wayne had apparently forgotten, and headed home. And there you have it, straight from the horses mouth as they say.
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Cheat any day then bend over sunshine,any day beggar boy.Originally posted by Bloodstained Angel
so windyhill would rather be a cheat than a beggar huh ?
That just says it all about your club and its attitude mate ...
and you wonder why the rest of absolutely refuse to pay Essendon any respect at all.
Have a nice day - cheat
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ohhh,no respect off bloodstainedangel,pass the razor blades I`m about to end it all.
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Dont be like that windy! Here, take some industrial strength tranqualizers instead! (less mess to clean up afterwards)!
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Nice one Grendel !!
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