Etihad Stadium Gone by 2025?

[Scotland]

http://ehstoday.com/construction/ex...lth-and-safety-performance-2012-olympic-games

According to that link there were no deaths during construction of the venues for the London Olympics. Either or, Qatar is the outlier - not Australia.

People need to let go of the idea that we're the best and the safest and the rest of the world are cowboys.

 

[Hellgood]

Hmm... in what context are you making that argument? I don't know the ins and outs, but working in the industry it's hard to believe that as a construction worker you would want to be anywhere else and that is certainly the impression I get from the guys in the field. LNG industry so I suppose the comparisons that the guys are making is Australia vs developing/third world countries, but still.

 

[Pykie]

http://ehstoday.com/construction/ex...lth-and-safety-performance-2012-olympic-games

According to that link there were no deaths during construction of the venues for the London Olympics. Either or, Qatar is the outlier - not Australia.

People need to let go of the idea that we're the best and the safest and the rest of the world are cowboys.

I never mentioned the developed countries as cowboys, that wasn't what I was alluding too.

Fatalities are inevitable, even in the most stringent of safety conditions, accidents happen and large scale construction is a dangerous environment. A man died on a apartment development 2 weeks ago in Melbourne, 2 men have died on the Adelaide Hospital development so far.

But Beijing, Qatar and Sochi incorporated imported labor sources to reduce construction costs. The majority of those killed in Qatar are Indian and Bangladesh construction workers on short term Visa's.

The only way to reduce labor costs below an international standard is to outsource labor, that would be disastrous to the local job industry and Australia's OHS standards.

 

[stupidlikeafox]

Article in todays AFR.

AFL to buy Etihad Stadium
Mar 11 2016 at 12:01 AM

We could be forgiven for thinking the country's (mostly male) captains of industry are fixated only on sports stadiums at the moment.

In Sydney there is a battle royale going on between Premier Mike Baird and Sports Minister Stuart Ayres regarding how to carve up a lazy $1.2 billion to rejuvenate Sydney's tired stadia.

Melbourne is – as always – even more intriguing. Eddie McGuire has floated a $1 billion proposal for a new stadium built next to the MCG if the AFL was to sell Etihad Stadium in the future (we'll let Eddie off on the fact the new Perth Stadium is costing $1.2 billion, but we digress)

And that prompts us to reveal some news. We are reliably informed that the AFL, led by the extremely photogenic Gill McLachlan, is in due diligence to acquire Etihad Stadium from its ownership consortium of various investment and superannuation funds.

Thanks to a $30 million downpayment back in 1999, the AFL has the right to acquire the stadium for a mere $30 (yes, $30, or about the sum Gill will bet on the fifth race at Whyalla) by 2025. But clubs that play there now get a dud deal and the AFL are cashed up having signed a $2.5 billion broadcast deal last year.

A price of about $150 million (or about what Gill drops on the Melbourne Cup) will secure Etihad now we're told, and then the AFL can refurbish it or sell the land to build Eddiehad Stadium.

Now, on to Sydney and the SCG Trust proposal to pull down Allianz and build a new 60,000 seat stadium on Moore Park, losing only a few hundred 100-year-old trees in the process. Will it cost $800 million, or closer to the Perth Stadium cost?

NRL clubs such as James Packer's and Russell Crowe's South Sydney instead want ANZ Stadium at Olympic Park revamped. Nick Politis wants to watch his Roosters at Moore Park. Sydney FC, which will announce Qantas exec John Simeone as a new director on Friday, is worried about moving stadiums while a new one is built.

Yes, it is as messy as it sounds. Perhaps they could ask Eddie for advice? (Andrew Pridham: that's a joke.)

Read more: http://www.afr.com/brand/rear-window/afl-to-buy-etihad-stadium-20160310-gnfis1#ixzz42qC7blSw
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[Pessimistic]

Theres definitely something afoot, but not seemingly because the average punter is unhappy in any way with the current stadiums

Dick measuring contest for playboys springs to mind, or some stadium builder is whispering in ears and lining pockets

 

[The Sultan]

so whats the advantage of selling jihad stadium, will it be bulldozed or revamped for other sports and or concerts?? the things barely 20 years old surely it not redundant already.

 

[namchelsea]

Wow it is very beautiful

 

[Sydney Bloods]

I couldn't find the latest data, but this is indicative FWIW
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if you think the average "unskilled" labourer is on 130K your dreaming.
that figure is higher paying then even most licenced tradesman working on construction sites.

 

[Sttew]

if you think the average "unskilled" labourer is on 130K your dreaming.
that figure is higher paying then even most licenced tradesman working on construction sites.

I merely quoted a Deloitte study

 

[Sydney Bloods]

I merely quoted a Deloitte study

and did it give you a break down of how it arrived at this mythical outcome?

 

[Sttew]

and did it give you a break down of how it arrived at this mythical outcome?

Did it need to? Do you know what the average unskilled labourer earned working on the Desal plant near Wonthaggi? Well over $100k

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Did it need to? Do you know what the average unskilled labourer earned working on the Desal plant near Wonthaggi? Well over $100k

dont suppose you've got a break down of how you arrived at that mythical figure either?

 

[Sttew]

dont suppose you've got a break down of how you arrived at that mythical figure either?

What are you? A bloody defensive shop steward?

 

[Sydney Bloods]

What are you? A bloody defensive shop steward?

your claiming that unskiled labourers are routinely earning the a pay packet in the top 2% of this country.
considering the ABS listed unskilled labourers were earning on average 54K i wish to know know exact how unskilled construction labourers are earning more then double that especially in a state with a lower average pay for blue collar workers in NSW, QLD and WA.

it doesn't make sense especially considering the proportion of construction workers in victoria vs the rest of country. we'd expect to be seeing a high level of migration in the field and protests demanding equal pay in other states which have more projects.

 

[John Tron]

that place was not even worth going to.

 

[brucetiki]

I never mentioned the developed countries as cowboys, that wasn't what I was alluding too.

Fatalities are inevitable, even in the most stringent of safety conditions, accidents happen and large scale construction is a dangerous environment. A man died on a apartment development 2 weeks ago in Melbourne, 2 men have died on the Adelaide Hospital development so far.

But Beijing, Qatar and Sochi incorporated imported labor sources to reduce construction costs. The majority of those killed in Qatar are Indian and Bangladesh construction workers on short term Visa's.

The only way to reduce labor costs below an international standard is to outsource labor, that would be disastrous to the local job industry and Australia's OHS standards.

Doesn't look like anything is changing in Qatar either

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middl...social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Did it need to? Do you know what the average unskilled labourer earned working on the Desal plant near Wonthaggi? Well over $100k

That is true, as it would have been a salary of $1200 per week for a standard 38 hour roster (although a lot of construction sites work from 7-5) and probably $800 of living away allowance on top of that for rent and utilities.

As you might be aware, Wonthaggi isn't really that big of a town so there aren't many skilled or unskilled construction workers there, certainly not enough to build a billion dollar facility! It's also quite far away from Melbourne, so you can't expect people to drive that far!

Also, "unskilled" means they have no formal qualification. It doesn't mean they are totally unskilled! You don't need a degree to tie steel, but you sure do need to be skilled at it!

 

[bombersfan4000]

Did it need to? Do you know what the average unskilled labourer earned working on the Desal plant near Wonthaggi? Well over $100k

many of those construction projects are run by unions, hence high wages, before you jump on to wages for construction, lets consider the oxygen thieves public servants and teachers & doctors salary all are backed by strong unions & organisations.
before bashing people who work in construction consider the dangers that run with the job & most of those people employed for the project have trades! the project only goes for a period of time before those people will be unemployed & looking for another job as well as most construction projects are privately backed meaning the money is coming from private investment!
now compare that to the salary's of public servants, teachers & medical professionals the higher percentage of super all the other perks that comes with government jobs & most to if not all of the money coming from tax payer funds.
so before bashing the wages for construction jobs do a bit of research to other professions and to where the money comes from to pay their wages

 

[DERIBERATE]

now compare that to the salary's of public servants, teachers & medical professionals the higher percentage of super all the other perks that comes with government jobs & most to if not all of the money coming from tax payer funds.

Pay the opportunity cost of 6 years of underǧraduate and post graduate studies instead of working, and you're also free to pay off 6 years of my (indexed) course fees.