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Preview FACE/OFF: Round 22 vs. North Melbourne

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Who will win?

  • Adelaide

    Votes: 5 27.8%
  • North Melbourne

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • It will be interesting to find out

    Votes: 12 66.7%

  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .

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Well, shit.

When I signed up for this before the season, I figured this would be a low-pressure preview to write for my first time doing one of these. I assumed the Crows would be cemented in a top-four spot and North would be battling for the wooden spoon. That is, to say the least, not where we are today.

So let's talk about something different. Let's talk about the Atlantic Schooners.

I come from a faraway land known as "Canada." In Canada, like in Australia, there is a football league. As with most things in Canada, the Canadian Football League is best described as "like the American one, but slightly different." Much like the American league, there's a team with a nickname that is widely considered offensive to the country's indigenous population, and everyone cares way too much about a mediocre quarterback named Johnny Manziel. Unlike the American league, however, the games are played in Canada and there is something called the "rouge."

There are currently nine teams in the CFL, spread out roughly evenly across the country, with a couple exceptions. The most notable is that Ontario, the most populous province, has three teams, and the Atlantic provinces of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland and Labrador (two names for just one province) have none. The first three of those provinces are collectively known as the Maritimes, and here is a map on which they are highlighted in green.
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There is somewhat of a regional rivalry between New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, and particularly Moncton, New Brunswick, and Halifax, Nova Scotia, the two major population centres in the region. The two provinces even have different preferred regional beers, with New Brunswickers preferring Moosehead and Nova Scotians drinking Alexander Keith's. Moncton, a bilingual city whose primary industry is a road that is also an optical illusion, was long considered a backwater, while Halifax was the jewel of the coast, a former fishing hub with a thriving culture and several top-class universities. The region as a whole has encountered hard times recently, though, with its lack of natural resources and geographic isolation leading to a dearth of industry and the younger generations moving en masse "out west," whether to the oil fields of Alberta or the big cities of Ontario. This is what happened to my father, and then to me after I moved back to Halifax for university. But there's something about the Maritimes that inspires pride even in those who have moved away, a sort of us-against-the-world mentality perhaps.

A CFL team has been the white whale of Maritime sports fans for decades. In 1984, the Atlantic Schooners, based in Halifax, were supposed to begin playing, but couldn't secure funding for a stadium. In 2006, wanting an even number of teams and faced with a choice between expanding to Halifax or Quebec City, Quebec, the CFL chose instead to contract the Ottawa Renegades, in the great Canadian tradition of never giving the French speakers or the Maritimers anything nice. A few years later, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, an afterthought in the greater Toronto area, began playing some home games in Moncton, and the rumor was it was a trial balloon for a potential move east. That didn't happen, as a cohort of Tiger-Cats fans seemingly appeared out of thin air to protest, and the first time a Moncton game didn't sell out, the project was scrapped. Now there's another push to bring a team to Halifax, but the general sense in the Maritimes is that, despite all the talk of it being an "unfulfilled part of our national dream," the CFL will find some excuse to once again deprive the Maritimes.

But enough about a league that will bend over backwards to appease every single fan in a major population center while ignoring a smaller, isolated region that would desperately love a team of its own, and a team that perpetually flirts with moving there without ever making any sort of serious commitment. Let's talk about something completely different: the AFL, and North Melbourne.

THE TEAMS

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TEAM: North Melbourne Football Club
NICKNAMES: Kangaroos, Kangas, Roos
LADDER POSITION: Too high.
EASY JOKE: No fans.
KEY PLAYERS: Ben Brown, Shaun Higgins, Ben Cunnington, probably some more
FORM: Coming off a bad loss to the Bulldogs where they turned a 28-point halftime lead into a five-point deficit by three-quarter time.
FANBASE MOOD (1 - sunshine and roses; 10 - fire and apocalypses): 8
WHO MOST NEEDS TO BE SACKED ACCORDING TO BIGFOOTY: Head coach Brad Scott.


VS.
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TEAM: Adelaide Football Club
NICKNAMES: Crows, really just that one
LADDER POSITION: Too low.
EASY JOKE: Can't retain players.
KEY PLAYERS: Rory Sloane, Rory Laird, Matt Crouch, probably some more
FORM: Coming off a bad loss to the Giants where what minuscule finals chances they had left evaporated.
FANBASE MOOD (1 - sunshine and roses; 10 - fire and apocalypses): 9
WHO MOST NEEDS TO BE SACKED ACCORDING TO BIGFOOTY: Head of football Brett Burton.

THE GAME

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WHO: See above.
WHAT: A game of Australian rules football.
WHEN: Saturday, Aug. 18, 4:10 p.m. Adelaide time
WHERE: Adelaide Oval
WHY: It's contractually mandated by the Australian Football League as part of the 2018 home and away fixture.
WHO WILL WIN: It will be interesting to find out.
WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME: Nothing at all, strangely.
WHEN DID NORTH MELBOURNE LAST BEAT ADELAIDE IN ADELAIDE: Round 21, 2003.
WHERE EXACTLY IS ADELAIDE OVAL: 34.9155° S, 138.5961° E
WHY SHOULD YOU WATCH THIS GAME: If you would like to see which team will win, and also perhaps the Crows will play some young players you may not have seen before.
WILL YOU PLEASE JUST POST THE 2013 COMEBACK AND BE DONE WITH THIS ALREADY:
 
Good work. Liked your CFL analogy of 'team flirting to relocate' to Nth Melb. Interesting stuff re your local football. Don't know why there is not more social interchange between Aust and Canada - maybe we just get saturated with US happenings.

The offensive nickname also has me wondering ?

We can beat nth Melb at home. Carn Crows.
 

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So the history lesson sent me to google to find this offensive name. Searched the CFL teams and be buggered if I could find one.
So I google cfl offensive name.
Eskimos!!!!
WTF???
Eskimos is a western (white) name given to the local Inuit population. Like the Washington Red Skins is offensive to American Indians.
 
So the history lesson sent me to google to find this offensive name. Searched the CFL teams and be buggered if I could find one.
So I google cfl offensive name.
Eskimos!!!!
WTF???
Eskimo was the official term until 1977, so it's not exactly an old-timey slur like "redskin," but yeah, you call an Inuit person an Eskimo and you're going to get some weird looks. IIRC, it derives from a Cree word meaning "eaters of raw meat," which they, understandably, did not enjoy being called.

Good work. Liked your CFL analogy of 'team flirting to relocate' to Nth Melb. Interesting stuff re your local football. Don't know why there is not more social interchange between Aust and Canada - maybe we just get saturated with US happenings.
I think that's it. Both countries get caught up in the giant swirling black hole that is American culture, and both have to fight just to maintain their own. It's probably easier for you all, being on the other side of the world rather than right next door, but the principle is the same. It takes effort to learn more about Australia/Canada than kangaroos and Vegemite/moose and poutine, whereas American stuff is so omnipresent that it just gets absorbed by osmosis, even if you don't live anywhere nearby.
 
Excellent face off - always enjoy seeing petrenko's goal - and the north fans reactions that ranged the full gamut of football emotion.

Orroroo in regional SA also has a magnetic hill

i do like this from the wikipedia for the Canadian magnetic hill
The novelty became known as “Magnetic Hill” and was more-or-less an amusing local attraction for residents and visitors to try

Crows to win by lots because they might gain something by losing and why would they want to get anything out of this dumpster fire of a season.
 
Maybe we should scrap International Rules with hybrid Gaelic footy, and form a new hybrid with Aussie rules and American/Canadian footy? :think:

Mood is well and truly gone for fans to really care about this particular match, or even the next one. Just want to see more youngsters, more hunger and team synchrony. The only interest for this match is whether we can topple North or remain firmly lodged in 12th position.
At home, so likely we can get the job done. Hope to see Fog/Himmelberg/both running around for the next couple of rounds.

Crows by "irrelevant number".
 
I will be attending. I hope to see a win. If I dont then all good. I still want to see effort. Everybody playing still has to give effort
 

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Only a Canadian wouldn't know NM's nickname is the Shinboners - god only knows why.

Other than that, great write up.
 
Actually Jen I think “American Indians” is probably also offensive to Native Americans:)
Funnily enough that’s what I intended to type! Old age is settin in pa, and it ain’t perty! :D
 
Had a peek over at the Norf board and they are really not confident at all. They sound more pessimistic than us at our worse!
 

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Had a peek over at the Norf board and they are really not confident at all. They sound more pessimistic than us at our worse!
How many times have they ever beaten us in Adelaide?
 
This will be a very difficult match for us. After a 22 game pre-season we are finally getting our best players on the track and most of them are looking reasonably fit. (Thank god for some lateral thinking from our captain).

To keep the dream of pick 8 and 10 alive we will need try some innovative selections and player roles.

Kangas by 3 points (hopefully).
 
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They haven't beaten us in Adelaide since 2003.

We are also 14W, 7L against them overall since that point
Do you know what their overall record vs us in Adelaide is?
 

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