Society/Culture Feminism part 1 - continued in part 2

[romeoh]

I didnt write the letter
Its a very interesting read from an unheard perspective, pretty sickening how it has ruined his life

Yep lousy-but pretty useless in terms of being illustrative in anyway. Lots of lousy things happen to lots of people. Can't quite see the point really.

 

[Lester Burnham]

It is a company, they have the right to sell or not sell anything that is legal.

I still find it hypocritical if they pull GTA based on the way women are portrayed and they continue to sell Game of Thrones which treats women like shit and even have women r*ped during it, and have a prostitute executed for sport by the king.

This opens a can of worms that they can now be hit by barrage after barrage of petitions to pull all sorts of shit off the shelves and if they say no they now come across as hypocritical by being selective.

I think it is great if stores impose ethical standards, but if it isn't consistent i smell bullshit. Ultimately they will be held accountable by the consumers and the shareholders. If there is a gaming consumer backlash against Target/Kmart then that short leash is going to get yanked.

They really need to ban chess. It promotes a patriarchal power structure controlled by inbred royal families. The focus of the participants is to use the many male characters to chase and kill the sole female, who is not only restricted by the 'straight' gender roles of society but is also wholly subservient to her husband.

 

[BORK]

They really need to ban chess. It promotes a patriarchal power structure controlled by inbred royal families. The focus of the participants is to use the many male characters to chase and kill the sole female, who is not only restricted by the 'straight' gender roles of society but is also wholly subservient to her husband.

You know what you have to do now.

 

[scon]

Queeny is the most powerful in the game.
Kingy is simply a doddering statutory monarch.

 

[Tas]

They really need to ban chess. It promotes a patriarchal power structure controlled by inbred royal families. The focus of the participants is to use the many male characters to chase and kill the sole female, who is not only restricted by the 'straight' gender roles of society but is also wholly subservient to her husband.

There are petitions to Target now to pull the bible for being misogynistic, pull 50 shades of grey, all sorts of shit with more signatures than GTA5.

It was always going to open a can of worms, they will either have to do it or look hypocritical.

 

[Lester Burnham]

There are petitions to Target now to pull the bible for being misogynistic, pull 50 shades of grey, all sorts of shit with more signatures than GTA5.

It was always going to open a can of worms, they will either have to do it or look hypocritical.

Never underestimate the ability of executive managers to be hypocritical and keep a straight face.

 

[cartwright]

And again, there's an excuse for a female who has clearly done the wrong thing. They are perfect creatures and would never do anything bad without a very good reason. And they wouldn't ever need to do anything bad ever if feminists had their way. Basically, it's men's fault even when it's not.

its seriously like talking to children sometimes.

 

[Raz0r6ack]

its seriously like talking to children sometimes.

You're making excuses for a female who falsely accused a male of raping her.

That is no better then someone who makes excuses for men who rape women.

 

[cartwright]

You're making excuses for a female who falsely accused a male of raping her.

That is no better then someone who makes excuses for men who rape women.

Yes, because in your world understanding why someone might do something equates excusing it.

 

[fleabitten]

Yes, because in your world understanding why someone might do something equates excusing it.

Not at all, it's just that almost without fail feminists will rush to a female's defense if she's done something horrible and explain it away. It's never because she's just bad, we've got to understand why she did it. Our patriarchal society will usually make an appearance to cop a share of the blame for whatever she did. Men don't usually get the same level of understanding when they do something wrong. They're either just bad, or they did it because they are a man and men are naturally bad.

 

[cartwright]

Not at all, it's just that almost without fail feminists will rush to a female's defense if she's done something horrible and explain it away. It's never because she's just bad, we've got to understand why she did it. Our patriarchal society will usually make an appearance to cop a share of the blame for whatever she did. Men don't usually get the same level of understanding when they do something wrong. They're either just bad, or they did it because they are a man and men are naturally bad.

The story was a 13 year old girl, wasn't it.
You presume a 13 year old girl set out to ruin a young man's life.

okay.
Real rational.

 

[LFTWNG11]

The story was a 13 year old girl, wasn't it.
You presume a 13 year old girl set out to ruin a young man's life.

okay.
Real rational.

Yes because 13 year old girls are never, ever vindictive.

 

[cartwright]

Yes because 13 year old girls are never, ever vindictive.

well they might be. Did you read the article?

 

[telsor]

The story was a 13 year old girl, wasn't it.
You presume a 13 year old girl set out to ruin a young man's life.

okay.
Real rational.

I think the point was more that the presumption of guilt in such cases can be very damaging.

 

[cartwright]

I think the point was more that the presumption of guilt in such cases can be very damaging.

Sure. I'll wait until someone points out where I have stated that it doesn't.

 

[telsor]

Sure. I'll wait until someone points out where I have stated that it doesn't.

You said there was a presumption that a 13 year old girl set out to ruin a life...where was that said?

I was merely correcting that assumption on your part.

 

[LFTWNG11]

well they might be. Did you read the article?

Yes

 

[fleabitten]

The story was a 13 year old girl, wasn't it.
You presume a 13 year old girl set out to ruin a young man's life.

okay.
Real rational.

Where did I say that she set out to ruin his life? I said she did the wrong thing and was commenting on how quickly the femsplainers jump in to absolve her of blame and somehow put it onto men (or "the patriarchy"). The only time I ever see feminists be critical of females is when those females renounce feminism.

 

[mottrain]

Where did I say that she set out to ruin his life? I said she did the wrong thing and was commenting on how quickly the femsplainers jump in to absolve her of blame and somehow put it onto men (or "the patriarchy"). The only time I ever see feminists be critical of females is when those females renounce feminism.

Exactly even currently we are having feminists tell us that we should believe the UVA rape even will all the doubt around about its legitimacy rather than question or criticise the story.

 

[fleabitten]

A friend of mine posted a list of great feminist moments from this year and one of them was a woman who was allegedly r*ped at college. As some kind of artistic protest, she vowed to carry her mattress with her everywhere until the school expelled her alleged rapist.

Alleged.

Maybe she was r*ped and if so, I hope the bastard was not only expelled but also imprisoned. But this woman was being described as a hero for demanding someone be punished before they have been found guilty of anything. All we have to do is allege someone has done something, and we can ruin their life? And you'd be a feminist hero for doing so?

 

[Chief]

Queeny is the most powerful in the game.
Kingy is simply a doddering statutory monarch.

MRA whiner!

 

[Chief]

A friend of mine posted a list of great feminist moments from this year and one of them was a woman who was allegedly r*ped at college. As some kind of artistic protest, she vowed to carry her mattress with her everywhere until the school expelled her alleged rapist.

Alleged.

Maybe she was r*ped and if so, I hope the bastard was not only expelled but also imprisoned. But this woman was being described as a hero for demanding someone be punished before they have been found guilty of anything. All we have to do is allege someone has done something, and we can ruin their life? And you'd be a feminist hero for doing so?

Do you think the college would expel someone without some sort of proof? If so the student can take them to court or seek redress.

 

[louismaxwell]

A friend of mine posted a list of great feminist moments from this year and one of them was a woman who was allegedly r*ped at college. As some kind of artistic protest, she vowed to carry her mattress with her everywhere until the school expelled her alleged rapist.

Alleged.

Maybe she was r*ped and if so, I hope the bastard was not only expelled but also imprisoned. But this woman was being described as a hero for demanding someone be punished before they have been found guilty of anything. All we have to do is allege someone has done something, and we can ruin their life? And you'd be a feminist hero for doing so?

Yes how true , some feminists should be locked up for being so downright stupid, the woman is a just an attention seeker and should be expelled from the college for bringing the college into disrepute. Not content to let the police do a thorough investigation into her most likely false claims she has ruined a guys reputation.

 

[fleabitten]

Do you think the college would expel someone without some sort of proof? If so the student can take them to court or seek redress.

I don't believe they did expel him. The alleged rape took place 2 years earlier. I'm not sure what she did about it prior to turning it into a performance art piece.

 

[Chief]

I don't believe they did expel him. The alleged rape took place 2 years earlier. I'm not sure what she did about it prior to turning it into a performance art piece.

So we have no information about this at all? Why even bring it up?