Society/Culture Feminism part 1 - continued in part 2

[Chief]

Entitlement, lack of self-awareness, emotionally unstable, neither appear to think before they speak. I wonder if they are related? Do you know if they are related to each other at all? The similarities are uncanny. Hanson-Young could be C-Ford's long lost sister.

Now, who's alias are you?

 

[DemonTim]

My opinion is based on her insane, racist, xenophobic, hate filled rantings.

What's your opinion based off?

I don't think that Devine is a campaigner. And I don't think ford is a ****

My point was they're both individual judgements. You can't claim some moral high ground about someone being called a ****, while calling someone else a campaigner

 

[Chief]

Tyson fury kicking some goals after winning boxing title. Police now investigating him over a "hate" crime.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...spoty-petition-you-are-50000-ws-34266260.html

The 27-year-old also reiterated his views on women after earlier saying that Olympic champion Jessica Ennis-Hill "slaps up good" and "looks good in a dress", adding that "a woman's best place is in the kitchen and on her back".



Bollinghood doesn't have the same ring about it though does it?

Not too good on the maths though. "I know for a million per cent..."

 

[ManWithNoName]

I don't think that Devine is a campaigner. And I don't think ford is a ****

My point was they're both individual judgements. You can't claim some moral high ground about someone being called a ****, while calling someone else a campaigner

Of course you can, if you have reason for holding that opinion.

A campaigner = a bad person
A "****" = someone who has sex a lot I guess?

One of these things is not like the other.

 

[HollyZholm]

Now, who's alias are you?

Holly Holmz. Thanks for asking.

 

[Chief]

Holly Holmz. Thanks for asking.

Bye.

(Now THAT is what you'd call being a campaigner.)

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

There's ample evidence Devine is a campaigner. Do you have any at all to back up this claim?

Is there any evidence for this? In the case of Devine, we have her long history of horrible commentary.

What is a **** these days anyway? Still a word used to shame women over the type of sexual activity that men are praised for?

This is just too funny.

 

[ManWithNoName]

This is just too funny.

Let's play a game. To win you just have to intelligently answer two questions.

a) How is '****' an insult?
b) How is it relevant here?

 

[DemonTim]

Of course you can, if you have reason for holding that opinion.

A campaigner = a bad person
A "****" = someone who has sex a lot I guess?

One of these things is not like the other.

How are they different? Both are subjective. The fact that you can't even put a definition on the second shows that. So if the people commenting on ford's facebook feel they are justified in calling her that, it's okay?

 

[ManWithNoName]

How are they different? Both are subjective. The fact that you can't even put a definition on the second shows that. So if the people commenting on ford's facebook feel they are justified in calling her that, it's okay?

I'll give you the hot tip.

One's an insult. One's a word men use in an attempt to insult women.
One's relevant when discussing someone's attitudes an opinions. One's not.

 

[DemonTim]

a) The dictionary definition lists the word as "derogatory". The word is literally defined as offensive
b) Aren't we discussing Ford and the insults she receives? Wasn't one listed as "****"

 

[ManWithNoName]

a) The dictionary definition lists the word as "derogatory". The word is literally defined as offensive
b) Aren't we discussing Ford and the insults she receives? Wasn't one listed as "****"

No don't take the cheap way out by resorting to a dictionary. Explain how it's an insult.

 

[DemonTim]

I'll give you the hot tip.

One's an insult. One's a word men use in an attempt to insult women.
One's relevant when discussing someone's attitudes an opinions. One's not.

Both are insults.
Oh but you consider **** to be not relevant and bad because it's men using in to insult women Yes, because women don't call each other sluts, ever, it's the evil men doing it. The American heritage dictionary lists one of the definitions of campaigner as "used as a disparaging term for a woman. Again, no difference.

Insults are insults. You can't be partly against bullying

 

[DemonTim]

No don't take the cheap way out by resorting to a dictionary. Explain how it's an insult.

How is that the cheap way out? The word is defined as an insult, that is literally how language works.

 

[ManWithNoName]

How is that the cheap way out? The word is defined as an insult, that is literally how language works.

I'm asking you to explain how it's an insult. In your own words. If it's so obvious then it should be easy. Go.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Both are insults.
Oh but you consider **** to be not relevant and bad because it's men using in to insult women Yes, because women don't call each other sluts, ever, it's the evil men doing it. The American heritage dictionary lists one of the definitions of campaigner as "used as a disparaging term for a woman. Again, no difference.

Insults are insults. You can't be partly against bullying

Where did I say "only men use it" exactly? Feel free to show me.

 

[Chief]

How is that the cheap way out? The word is defined as an insult, that is literally how language works.

Campaigner is a fine, traditional word for someone with a poor attitude. If you don't know that, you're not Australian.

Check your nationality. Your oldies might not be telling you everything.

 

[DemonTim]

I'm asking you to explain how it's an insult. In your own words. If it's so obvious then it should be easy. Go.

Well as a general rule, I base what a word means on the definition. Are you new to language?

I would also judge it as an insult based on context and tone.

 

[DemonTim]

Campaigner is a fine, traditional word for someone with a poor attitude. If you don't know that, you're not Australian.

Check your nationality. Your oldies might not be telling you everything.

When did I dispute the meaning of it? I said it's subjective. Poor attitude is subjective.

 

[DemonTim]

Where did I say "only men use it" exactly? Feel free to show me.

"One's a word men use in an attempt to insult women."

 

[ManWithNoName]

Well as a general rule, I base what a word means on the definition. Are you new to language?

I would also judge it as an insult based on context and tone.

So what does **** mean? I take it as "someone who has sex with lots of people".

If we concur on this, explain how it's an insult.

 

[ManWithNoName]

"One's a word men use in an attempt to insult women."

So if I say "I'm against pancreatic cancer" do you immediately assume I'm pro/indifferent to all other forms of cancer?

 

[DemonTim]

So what does **** mean? I take it as "someone who has sex with lots of people".

If we concur on this, explain how it's an insult.

1. It's literally defined as derogatory. Do you dispute that calling a black person a n***** is offensive? I mean really that's just a word for a black person. How is it offensive?
2. If you refuse to take into account definition, then it's all intent.

So if it's not offensive, then we can freely call people sluts?

 

[Chief]

When did I dispute the meaning of it? I said it's subjective. Poor attitude is subjective.

Yes, but it can also be a proven fact. Devine is a proven campaigner. This is not in dispute.

 

[DemonTim]

So if I say "I'm against pancreatic cancer" do you immediately assume I'm pro/indifferent to all other forms of cancer?

You have to be the worst debater i've come across on this site. You seem to come up with non-relevant analogies in every argument

You defined the two words. You defined one as an insult, and one as a word that men use to insult women. If you were not specifically meaning that, why point it out? Or is it just another one of your rants that lead nowhere?