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Oct 19, 2020
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Use this Ladder Predictor to determine finals results .
You mark off the Ess vs GC first then click on finals.

I have GWS defeating Adelaide in the Grand final.
 

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Had to be done to stop teams resting half their playets in dead rubbers.

Is that really a bad thing? Teams that have played consistently through the year tanking in the last round to rest key players if there is nothing to gain or lose?

The bye can be a momentum killer
 
Unfortunately Geelong's post bye hangovers are a thing of the past...or are they?

Geelong aside, If we wind the clock back to the McIntyre 5 system, the minor premier was the only team to get a week off, effectively giving them a bye. That was by far the fairest system IMO.

Every team to win the flag from 2016 onward has benefited, giving players returning from injury or niggles an extra week's rest. I don't think that the finals system benefits from it.

Hypothetically speaking, a bye before the finals starts with a wildcard system having teams from 9-10 play off for a shot. Does the game really need a watered down finals system rewarding mediocrity?
 
Geelong aside, If we wind the clock back to the McIntyre 5 system, the minor premier was the only team to get a week off, effectively giving them a bye. That was by far the fairest system IMO.

Every team to win the flag from 2016 onward has benefited, giving players returning from injury or niggles an extra week's rest. I don't think that the finals system benefits from it.

Hypothetically speaking, a bye before the finals starts with a wildcard system having teams from 9-10 play off for a shot. Does the game really need a watered down finals system rewarding mediocrity?
I was a bit too young to remember the ins and outs of the old finals system, but I do not remember that. Sounds kind of weird. A lot of things about the old system seemed whack to me, like the Crows losing a first final from 5th yet going on. Glad we have the system have now.

I swear, the day a Wildcard system compromises finals will be the day I stop following.
 
A lot of things about the old system seemed whack to me, like the Crows losing a first final from 5th yet going on.

The 1994 AFL finals system 1st top 8 iteration was extremely flawed. First week it was

1v8
2v7
3v6
4v5

Lowest ranked losers eliminated. That means, had the top four teams all lost in week one, 3rd and 4th placed would have been eliminated in week 1. Crazy and shortsighted.
 
WLD%
1.Adelaide1850139.3%
2.Geelong1760141.5%
3.Brisbane Lions1661114.2%
4.Collingwood1670122.4%
5.GWS1670115.3%
6.Fremantle1670109.0%
7.Gold Coast1580124.9%
8.Hawthorn1580120.9%
9.Western Bulldogs1490137.0%
10.Sydney1211097.0%
11.Carlton914096.7%
12.St Kilda914088.5%
13.Port Adelaide914079.8%
14.Melbourne716093.3%
15.Essendon617069.5%
16.North Melbourne517176.3%
17.Richmond518066.0%
18.West Coast122060.1%
QF1: ADELAIDE v Collingwood
QF2: Geelong v BRISBANE LIONS
EF1: GWS v HAWTHORN
EF2: FREMANTLE v Gold Coast

SF1: Collingwood v HAWTHORN
SF2: Geelong v FREMANTLE

PF1: Adelaide v FREMANTLE
PF2: BRISBANE LIONS v Hawthorn

GF: Fremantle v BRISBANE LIONS
 

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Is that really a bad thing? Teams that have played consistently through the year tanking in the last round to rest key players if there is nothing to gain or lose?

The bye can be a momentum killer
I think it was hampering the image of the game, not to mention appeasing the bookies, paying customers and broadcasters.
 
I think it was hampering the image of the game,

Had Brad Scott not have been so blatant about it, it may never have eventuated. Moot point now.
 
Week 1

Adelaide
v Collingwood
GWS v Hawthorn
Fremantle v GCS
Geelong v Brisbane

Week 2

Collingwood
v GWS
Brisbane v Fremantle

Week 3

Adelaide
v Brisbane
Geelong v Collingwood

Week 4

Adelaide
v Collingwood
 
My finals tips:

GWS Vs Hawthorn

Honestly, this one could go either way. We beat them 76 to 64 back in round 3. But that was in Launceston with Day playing. If it were at the MCG I'd say Hawthorn comfortably, but the Hawks don't always play well at the Showground.

Collingwood Vs Hawthorn

We beat Collingwood 110 to 46 in round 22. On recent form, we be able to win this.

Brisbane Vs Hawthorn

They beat us by 10 behinds at the Gabba in round 24 (the final score was 11.23 (?!) to 11.13). Sadly, I don't see us winning this one.

And yeah look I know there's a few other finals games, but that's the main ones covered. I'd love to be proven wrong, but unfortunately I don't see us going any further than the Prelim this year.
 
Week 1

Adelaide
v Collingwood
GWS v Hawthorn
Fremantle v GCS
Geelong v Brisbane

Week 2

Collingwood
v GWS
Brisbane v Fremantle

Week 3

Adelaide
v Brisbane
Geelong v Collingwood

Week 4

Adelaide
v Collingwood

Mike you're not a Super Moderator, you're a LEGEND Moderator!!!! 🤣

I'd struggle playing those black and white clowns 3 time within a month, but if it means a flag, we'll take it!
 
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My finals tips:

GWS Vs Hawthorn

Honestly, this one could go either way. We beat them 76 to 64 back in round 3. But that was in Launceston with Day playing. If it were at the MCG I'd say Hawthorn comfortably, but the Hawks don't always play well at the Showground.

Collingwood Vs Hawthorn

We beat Collingwood 110 to 46 in round 22. On recent form, we be able to win this.

Brisbane Vs Hawthorn

They beat us by 10 behinds at the Gabba in round 24 (the final score was 11.23 (?!) to 11.13). Sadly, I don't see us winning this one.

And yeah look I know there's a few other finals games, but that's the main ones covered. I'd love to be proven wrong, but unfortunately I don't see us going any further than the Prelim this year.

What a bizarre post. It only mentions 1 actual game, 2 hypothetical games that will probably never happen, and 4 teams, not 8.
 

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Use this Ladder Predictor to determine finals results .
You mark off the Ess vs GC first then click on finals.

I have GWS defeating Adelaide in the Grand final.
Geewizz!
 
WLD%
1.Adelaide1850139.3%
2.Geelong1760141.5%
3.Brisbane Lions1661114.2%
4.Collingwood1670122.4%
5.GWS1670115.3%
6.Fremantle1670109.0%
7.Gold Coast1580124.9%
8.Hawthorn1580120.9%
9.Western Bulldogs1490137.0%
10.Sydney1211097.0%
11.Carlton914096.7%
12.St Kilda914088.5%
13.Port Adelaide914079.8%
14.Melbourne716093.3%
15.Essendon617069.5%
16.North Melbourne517176.3%
17.Richmond518066.0%
18.West Coast122060.1%
QF1: ADELAIDE v Collingwood
QF2: GEELONG v Brisbane Lions
EF1: GWS v HAWTHORN
EF2: Fremantle v GOLD COAST

SF1: COLLINGWOOD v Hawthorn
SF2: Brisbane Lions v GOLD COAST (a.e.t)

PF1: ADELAIDE v Gold Coast
PF2: GEELONG v Collingwood

GF: Adelaide v GEELONG
 
WLD%
1.Adelaide1850139.3%
2.Geelong1760141.5%
3.Brisbane Lions1661114.2%
4.Collingwood1670122.4%
5.GWS1670115.3%
6.Fremantle1670109.0%
7.Gold Coast1580124.9%
8.Hawthorn1580120.9%
9.Western Bulldogs1490137.0%
10.Sydney1211097.0%
11.Carlton914096.7%
12.St Kilda914088.5%
13.Port Adelaide914079.8%
14.Melbourne716093.3%
15.Essendon617069.5%
16.North Melbourne517176.3%
17.Richmond518066.0%
18.West Coast122060.1%
QF1: ADELAIDE v Collingwood
QF2: GEELONG v Brisbane Lions
EF1: GWS v HAWTHORN
EF2: Fremantle v GOLD COAST

SF1: Collingwood v HAWTHORN
SF2: Brisbane Lions v GOLD COAST

PF1: ADELAIDE v Gold Coast
PF2: Geelong v HAWTHORN

GF: Adelaide v HAWTHORN
 
The 1994 AFL finals system 1st top 8 iteration was extremely flawed. First week it was

1v8
2v7
3v6
4v5

Lowest ranked losers eliminated. That means, had the top four teams all lost in week one, 3rd and 4th placed would have been eliminated in week 1. Crazy and shortsighted.

Yes, you get a situation where 4v5 is not just irrelevant, but potentially known to be irrelevant. In 1998 I don't even think the outcome could change the next week's draw. (You can reduce this by playing 4v5 first, then 3v6, etc, but that might have the effect of punishing 1 and 2 if they have to play the following week on a short rest).

Then you get the ambiguity of - after a higher-ranked team loses and a lower-ranked team wins, who gets to be the home team next week? Does it matter how close the teams were on the ladder? Without attempting to answer if they were right, a lot of Geelong fans were aggrieved in 1997 about having to play in Adelaide on the second week.
 
Watching teams in finals play again in quick succession can be interesting.

A couple of quick examples:
1972: tiges blues have a semi draw, then tiges win the replay easily, then blues break a bunch of records with 3 key forwards kicking 21 goals between them to win easily in the GF.

1984: Hawks get by Bombers in a semi (i think), and I am thinking if Essendon cant beat them on that day, they never will, then they overrun the hawks with a powerhouse q4 in the GF.

All this alluding to the fascinating Crows Pies rematch: losers often have more to learn, plus the Rankine ban, makes this game extremely interesting. Crows showed they can win tough, hold firm, never surrender, awesome win going into finals, however, Pies might be thinking they blew lots of chances. Plus historically, Pies love a road trip every bit as much as Mickey and Mallory. I have a feeling Crows have lost a bit of their effervescence, and Pies will fancy themselves.

I expect Brizzy to be switched on in all the finals, no more complacent games for them.

Hawks are just the type of team to beat Giants: individualist; resilient; savvy coach.

Freo look imperious, and Suns a tad green.
 

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