Religion Folau

[Rettolalia]

I’ll say it again, if Folau was a Muslim player tweeting out, there is no way Little Alan or Razor Raelene would of been willing to poke that bear, and we simply wouldn’t be sitting here today.

 

[Gough]

So miners are dumb are they?

I'm outraged and offended by this completely unprovoked attack on my life choice.

If the guys my old man employed are anything to go by. They self identified as the genus dumbus campaignerus.

 

[Rettolalia]

So miners are dumb are they?

I'm outraged and offended by this completely unprovoked attack on my life choice.

Likewise.

 

[Snake_Baker]

So miners are dumb are they?

I'm outraged and offended by this completely unprovoked attack on my life choice.

Trendy inner city leftism at its finest.

Make no mistake, these people are the greatest enemy of the true working classes.

These are the people who have infiltrated and mutated the Labor Party for their own purposes.

 

[Borisdog]

If the guys my old man employed are anything to go by. They self identified as the genus dumbus campaignerus.

I'd be more concerned by what your Old Man sired

Sorry - but that just really sat up and begged to be hit.

 

[Rettolalia]

If the guys my old man employed are anything to go by. They self identified as the genus dumbus campaignerus.

You do realise there are a wide array of positions within the resources sector? Ones that simply require a few tickets, and ones that require tertiary qualifications?

Not that a capacity for academia is the be all and end all indicator of human intelligence in my opinion. Some of the dumbus, most dangerous, campaignerus I have ever met are the ones that have come out of uni.

But your latte hued sneering condescension of the blue collar is duly noted, nonetheless.

 

[raskolnikov]

A poster on another board said that his 8 year old son was starting to disbelieve in Santa because he couldn't understand how he could get to every the home of every child on earth in one night. Yet Christians believe that God is watching every person on earth every second of the day.

Christians. Dumber than an 8 year old.

 

[Rettolalia]

A poster on another board said that his 8 year old son was starting to disbelieve in Santa because he couldn't understand how he could get to every the home of every child on earth in one night. Yet Christians believe that God is watching every person on earth every second of the day.

Christians. Dumber than an 8 year old.

You think everyone who supported Folau in this case was a Christian?

Im Agnostic, and as obnoxious as his crowd fund was, and then his bushfire sermonising, I genuinely hoped Izzy won this, as the idea of people being sacked for publicly affirming there religious beliefs ought to be an issue decent Australians stand up and fight for.

 

[Gough]

Folau's ****ter bashing was something I thourghly approved of and that's why I'm glad he won.

Fixed that for you mining boy.

 

[raskolnikov]

You think everyone who supported Folau in this case was a Christian?

Can't recollect saying that.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

If some f****ng idiot said that all Christians are evil and should be beheaded, is that acceptable? Is that exercising ones right to speak ones mind on religious issues?

Don't some of you get it? This has nothing whatsoever to do with freedom of speech.

I'm not sure you get it.

Folau is a money hungry grub, but in the end it wasn't even about him.

If some f****ng idiot said that all Christians are evil and should be beheaded, there would be initial outrage but it would quickly dissipate.

As others have posted, it's the absolute incompatibility of having any sort of diversity and inclusion policy that includes religion when religion itself generally isn't all that inclusive. How do you get around it?

In the end, it's probably a good thing it didn't end up in a court, it would have just created a mess that would never have been sorted to anyone's complete satisfaction.

Each occurrence is just going to have to be dealt with individually. What will come out of this is that I would think that generally, high profile people of a religious bent may temper their public utterances and organisations won't act in such a knee jerk fashion, unless of course the frothing masses force them to lose all integrity and cave in.

Will be interesting to see if it happens again and what the outcome is.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Can't recollect saying that.

But do you?

 

[Rettolalia]

Fixed that for you mining boy.

That’s an outrageous smear.

Where have I called for ‘****ter bashing’?

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

The only decision made was by Folau who jettisoned principles for money. He banged on about his right to say what he wants about whomever he wants without having to take into consideration what consequences it may have for innocent people who have done absolutely nothing wrong. He was adamant that it was a principle that he had to uphold as a Christian but when he was confronted with a choice between principle and money, the f****ng **** chose the doe!

He still has the right to say what he wants about whomever he wants, he nor anyone else has been banned from public airing their religious views have they?

He may have taken off with the loot but he's still free to say what he wants, so in that sense, he certainly hasn't lost.

 

[Snake_Baker]

A poster on another board said that his 8 year old son was starting to disbelieve in Santa because he couldn't understand how he could get to every the home of every child on earth in one night. Yet Christians believe that God is watching every person on earth every second of the day.

Christians. Dumber than an 8 year old.

Excellent.

I hope someone sacks you for this comment and you get awarded 8 million dollars as a result.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

He'll need the money, he's persona non grata to both rugby codes and he's clearly so dim he'd be lucky to even get a job in the mining industry.

Maybe he could become a BF moderator and sit at home in the cheap seats all day pulling cones and crying about the injustices of the world.

 

[M Malice]

 

[Stax on the mill]

I find it remarkable that people think that a settlement means that their favoured bigot would have definitely won in court. That's not how it works.

Not so remarkable. Not the opinion of leading employment lawyer and principal at Maurice Blackburn Josh Bernstein who, despite his leftist worldview tweeted: “ An employment contract can’t eliminate a legislated Protection” and
“Workplace policy can’t subvert legislated rights”.

 

[Father Jack]

You CANNOT defeat religion by DIRECTLY attacking it!

You must wear it down via the accumulation of verifiable doubts.

The ****ing STATE is the last thing should should utilize to combat it.

I don't see this as a direct attack on reigion, merely just demonstrating that professing some of the more obnoxious parts of religion can have negative effects. And to be fair, the state was pretty much absent from this discussion, outside of providing a framework for those negative effects or otherwise to play out.

But of course a lot of religious people are desperate to be able to play the martyr, as they think they should have carte blanche to do and say anything without consequence. So yes, you have to go obliquely at them, but be aware that anything at all that threatens their self-entitlement will be blown up as 'an attack on religion'. The state still has to provide a framework of what's acceptable though, imo. And yes, I believe we do differ on that point.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

I don't see this as a direct attack on reigion, merely just demonstrating that professing some of the more obnoxious parts of religion can have negative effects. And to be fair, the state was pretty much absent from this discussion, outside of providing a framework for those negative effects or otherwise to play out.

But of course a lot of religious people are desperate to be able to play the martyr, as they think they should have carte blanche to do and say anything without consequence. So yes, you have to go obliquely at them, but be aware that anything at all that threatens their self-entitlement will be blown up as 'an attack on religion'. The state still has to provide a framework of what's acceptable though, imo. And yes, I believe we do differ on that point.

You do realise that a lot of non-religious people were on Folau's side of the argument don't you?

 

[HairyO]

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[WA ROO]

Fixed that for you mining boy.

FFS get the spelling right
****TA

 

[Father Jack]

You think everyone who supported Folau in this case was a Christian?

Im Agnostic, and as obnoxious as his crowd fund was, and then his bushfire sermonising, I genuinely hoped Izzy won this, as the idea of people being sacked for publicly affirming there religious beliefs ought to be an issue decent Australians stand up and fight for.

I don't have a problem with someone being sacked for voicing a homophobic opinion when they're a high-level representative of their employer who wants to distance themselves from such bigoted statements. If you do and you aren't religious then you clearly are happy with people voicing those sorts of opinions without fear of consequence, and maybe you need to ask yourself some hard questions as to why that might be the case.

The religious can be as religious as they want, but actual decent Australians would rather that people with grossly indecent opinions keep them to themselves.

 

[EasternTiger]

If it was only homersexuals he criticised, then the outrage is fair enough, but he basically teed off on everyone

drunks
adulterers
thieves
assorted sinners
other

I remember reading the list and thinking 'gee he's got me on a couple there.'

Maybe you darlings should stop being so precious.

 

[raskolnikov]

But do you?

Think that? Of course not. And not all Christians agree with Folau.

If it was only homersexuals he criticised, then the outrage is fair enough, but he basically teed off on everyone

drunks
adulterers
thieves
assorted sinners
other

I remember reading the list and thinking 'gee he's got me on a couple there.'

Maybe you darlings should stop being so precious.

Then followed it up by saying ssm was responsible for the bushfires. We all know who his vitriol was aimed at. The others were just a diversion.