Religion Folau

[Smartest Brain]

Exactly and as it stands there's 2 legal sexual preferences.

Those are protected by the anti discrimination act.

Anything outside of that(children, animals etc) are not

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Yeah mate , seems the law in the past wasn't progressive enough and was changed im sure it will be changed again soon to accept more discriminated sexual preferences . Let us not be bigoted .

 

[Colonial]

No I'm saying the whole they should be fired for that mentality needs to be looked at.

I don't agree with what he said. I'm not going to lose any sleep over him being fired. But is that what should happen? Should it happen to someone that works at K-Mart? Macca's? A cafe? Where does it end? What if you vote different to your boss?

Yes.

If you are promoting something that is against your employers views and you are doing it while being attached to the employer then it is absolutely up to the employer if they want to keep you on.

Just as if your employer is up to no good and you don't want to be associated with them you can walk.

Freedom.

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[Atomboy]

If a muslim athlete said the same thing.....would they get the sack?

This just reeks of opportunistic triggered mob mentality wanting to their pound of flesh.

I don't agree with Folau's comments. But this is a guy with strong religious beliefs and freedom of speech is king (at least it should be).

They would probably get deported

 

[Colonial]

Yeah mate , seems the law in the past wasn't progressive enough and was changed im sure it will be changed again soon to accept more discriminated sexual preferences . Let us not be bigoted .

I cannot see any changes to laws involving children or animals.

Inanimate objects?

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[Slartibartfast]

It isn't about what makes sense it is what is legal or not. Obviously the law changes and the rules I replied to are ready to handle discrimination against all sexual orientations which is really progressive and should be applauded.

Peodophillia is is not an sexual orientation , it is a deviance.
I am surprised you cannot see the difference. Maybe you dont want to.

 

[Atomboy]

Drunks
Homosexuals
Adulterers
Liars
Fornicators
Thieves
Atheists
Idolators

As an enlightened, intellectually honest high EQ individual I see no difference between any of these listed items.

Issie soon to be parachuted into a safe Liberal seat as a candidate ??.

Might need to renounce the thieves and liars bits though

 

[Art Corvelay]

Peodophillia is is not an sexual orientation , it is a deviance.
I am surprised you cannot see the difference. Maybe you dont want to.

It’s shit posting. Don’t tip in to a poor troll.

 

[Mercy Seat]

No I'm saying the whole they should be fired for that mentality needs to be looked at.

I don't agree with what he said. I'm not going to lose any sleep over him being fired. But is that what should happen? Should it happen to someone that works at K-Mart? Macca's? A cafe? Where does it end? What if you vote different to your boss?

It ends with what is in their contract. Which is pretty cut and dry:

 

[Starburns_]

But do they have a right to be like that legally?

I'm of the view if it's outside work hours they can **** right off. They don't own me.

My employer is not the moral arbiter of my life and based on how companies work the hypocrites shouldn't be given the option.

There's a fair level of difference at play though. Folau enjoys the profile he does because of the sporting arena he competes in, he's not expressing his beliefs relatively privately within the sphere of his church, he's preaching at a wider audience, his employer's audience essentially. As such, there's not much separating his public social media account from his employment and obligations to his employer.

Sexual orientation? Is that protecting pedofiles too then?

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[JezzasOnTheAsphalt]

He breached the ARU’s code of conduct twice now with his social media posting. He (or his agent) would/should have known about this to begin with and certainly after last year. He chose to breach it again.

As simple as that really. Was already on watch and has broken a clause in his contract again, a clause that I wouldn't have thought is too hard to follow. Has been uncontactable since as well

 

[Gralin]

Are you the public face of your company doing advertisements and media interviews on behalf of them? Does your company have paying sponsors that put you in ads to sell their products?

There's a fair level of difference at play though. Folau enjoys the profile he does because of the sporting arena he competes in, he's not expressing his beliefs relatively privately within the sphere of his church, he's preaching at a wider audience, his employer's audience essentially. As such, there's not much separating his public social media account from his employment and obligations to his employer.



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It's less about Issy and more about the general question of where the line is regarding what an employer should be able to fire you for.

 

[boltsbabyblues]

The 30-year-old was slammed for calling on “drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolaters” to repent for their sins or else “hell awaits” them.

It's bad enough that he attacks homosexuals, but he's crossing a line when he attacks drunken, lying fornicators.

finally i'm being targeted for something other than being a 4by2 lol

 

[Slartibartfast]

They literally said the same thing about homosexuals 40 years ago. It is hilarious how ignorant some people are.

Guess its lucky we are not living in the 70s, yes your ignorant.

 

[Colonial]

If we take your same attitude about caring what is legal or not you would be bigoted against homosexuals 30 years ago. You may want to base your beliefs in something other than legality if you want to make sense in the long term.

Once again. 2 concenting adults is completely different to a consenting adult and a child.
Associating the 2 is ridiculous

Hence why one is legal and one isn't.

There is zero chance of that ever changing now.

Now is the time if the general populous thought it was ok, that it would be legalised. It isn't and it won't be.

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[Altum Volantes]

Well his post had the desired effect I guess.

Strange decision but he’d be well aware of what he was doing.

 

[boltsbabyblues]

I don't understand why everyone has to be perpetually offended. I've been "racially slandered" many times on the sports field, parties, or just in general. Who gives a flying ****? I'm telling you, social media is a ****ing cancer and has brought society to it's knees almost. There was a new study that children are the most suicidal they have ever been. I wonder why

 

[boltsbabyblues]

Yes.

If you are promoting something that is against your employers views and you are doing it while being attached to the employer then it is absolutely up to the employer if they want to keep you on.

Just as if your employer is up to no good and you don't want to be associated with them you can walk.

Freedom.

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hahahaha , i'd bet almost anything you would be at the front of a union march through the city or a green rally for injecting rooms too. Laughable, pretending something completely opposite to reality to try and win internet points

 

[Jeremias]

Can't believe anyone would honestly suggest he's worth of another go at the sport. He was absolutely hopeless.

On the current issues, it continues to stagger me just how many don't understand the concept of freedom of speech.

 

[Colonial]

hahahaha , i'd bet almost anything you would be at the front of a union march through the city or a green rally for injecting rooms too. Laughable, pretending something completely opposite to reality to try and win internet points

Completely opposite to reality? how so?

I am in the union for my employment but as for the injecting rooms have no thoughts on it either way.

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[boltsbabyblues]

Completely opposite to reality? how so?

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Seriously? Lol that’s even funnier

You’re in a union, yet you’re on the internet saying his employer has he right to terminate him based on his public views.

Can’t make this shit up seriously

Imagine he said I’m gay and thy wanted to fire him for that? Same shit but reversed

 

[Mercy Seat]

Can't believe anyone would honestly suggest he's worth of another go at the sport. He was absolutely hopeless.

On the current issues, it continues to stagger me just how many don't understand the concept of freedom of speech.

What don't people understand?

 

[Art Corvelay]

What don't people understand?

That free speech doesn’t mean no consequences.

 

[Jeremias]

What don't people understand?

That free speech doesn’t mean no consequences.

Bingo.

 

[Starburns_]

It's less about Issy and more about the general question of where the line is regarding what an employer should be able to fire you for.

Fair enough. It's a fair question, I'd say probably once it reasonably impacts on the organisation you work for or your credibility within that organisation.

To cite your example above, questionable social media content from a kid at Maccas probably shouldn't result in them getting fired, they're hardly identifiable with the brand.

 

[Gralin]

Once again. 2 concenting adults is completely different to a consenting adult and a child.
Associating the 2 is ridiculous

Hence why one is legal and one isn't.

There is zero chance of that ever changing now.

Now is the time if the general populous thought it was ok, that it would be legalised. It isn't and it won't be.

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Consent is a very important point. Very important. Mandatory really.