Fourth Test team

[theyellowsash]

Cummins ... bats at #8

Hard to argue with

 

[The Swans Blog]

Marnus padding up before the openers have even faced the first ball. Haha **** me, you can't make this up!

 

[bluespooner]

Good luck to ML. But remember he’ll be playing against the number 1 test team on a spinning deck...so I’d be totally surprised if he does any better than the “pitiful” Handscomb and Finch. Let’s face it, the Aussie batting lineup are shite no matter who you put in these days.

Labuschagne shouldn't be judged on how he performs in one Test. He needs a block of Test matches as was provided to Finch and Handscomb. The one thing he has over both of those two is that he has a sound technique which needs to be backed in given the parlous state of Australian batting.

Posters that call for the inclusion of Burns and Wade, well you would have to question if they know much about batting. A bloke that swipes across the line as his main scoring shot and the other that waves a horizontal bat at nothing deliveries outside the off-stump are not going to succeed at Test cricket; and in fact are worse options than Finch and Handscomb.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

 

[Cdog71]

We’re gonna have two players walking back into the top 6 in a couple of months.
This obsession with an all rounder is doin my head in.
We need someone solid at 6 for the second new ball not a bits and peices guy whose got potential.
A few blokes who’ve made a name for themselves at 6
Mike Hussey
Ricky Ponting
Allan Border

 

[Richard Pryor]

Surprised by MMarsh's Shield average considering his career FC average is 31. Dominating in Australia A games?

 

[Seagrave_Holmes]

So much this, you would think at least 2 of Wade, Maxwell and Burns would be in the team but none of them are... Even Patterson might be worth giving a few games to instead of some has been like Sean Marsh

 

[hoopla]

Labuschagne shouldn't be judged on how he performs in one Test. He needs a block of Test matches as was provided to Finch and Handscomb. The one thing he has over both of those two is that he has a sound technique which needs to be backed in given the parlous state of Australian batting.

Posters that call for the inclusion of Burns and Wade, well you would have to question if they know much about batting. A bloke that swipes across the line as his main scoring shot and the other that waves a horizontal bat at nothing deliveries outside the off-stump are not going to succeed at Test cricket; and in fact are worse options than Finch and Handscomb.

I hope you’re correct. I watched the uae tests and I’m not sold yet on his technique. I agree that ML needs a block of tests to prove himself though.

 

[eddiesmith]

Labuschagne shouldn't be judged on how he performs in one Test. He needs a block of Test matches as was provided to Finch and Handscomb. The one thing he has over both of those two is that he has a sound technique which needs to be backed in given the parlous state of Australian batting.

Posters that call for the inclusion of Burns and Wade, well you would have to question if they know much about batting. A bloke that swipes across the line as his main scoring shot and the other that waves a horizontal bat at nothing deliveries outside the off-stump are not going to succeed at Test cricket; and in fact are worse options than Finch and Handscomb.

Handscomb got 2 tests so hardly a block of tests...Of course if you mean his first stint where he averaged more after 2 tests than Marnus even got close to in total runs for his 2 tests

Finch has been dropped after 3 poor tests where 1 he was looking alright before getting hurt...

You obviously have a massive hate of Finch and Handscomb, suprised Harris has escaped your rants

As for his awesome technique, how come it doesn’t make runs? All this players you hate plunder state attacks, he can’t even do that!

 

[jackster83]

We’re gonna have two players walking back into the top 6 in a couple of months.
This obsession with an all rounder is doin my head in.
We need someone solid at 6 for the second new ball not a bits and peices guy whose got potential.
A few blokes who’ve made a name for themselves at 6
Mike Hussey
Ricky Ponting
Allan Border

It's where Head should be batting.

 

[Blue1980]

Arguably the 2 best sides ever (1980-95 Windies and 1995-08 Aussies) didn't need an all rounder, unless the all rounder can be in the side for one thing specifically he shouldn't be there. As you end up weakening your batting without really strengthening the bowling.

 

[Badesumofu]

Marnus at 3. Well it sounds crazy, but then you recall that we have exactly one batter with a Test batting average above 40 available to choose from and that's Usman.

That said; Maxwell, Wade, and Burns should all be in the side.

Harris
Burns
Khawaja
Maxwell
Wade
Head

Would be a reasonable top 6. Whichever opener performs better over the next 3 Tests keeps his spot when Warner comes back in. Smith comes back in for one of the other 4, again depending on who performs. Labuschagne looks like he could be a good player, but clearly not ready to be playing Tests yet. It's very frustrating when you have someone like Maxwell who actually has performed in FC cricket over the last 18 months or so and has one of the best career averages in the Shield. But he gets messed around because of reasons and then Langer tries to make up some stats to explain it when the stats very clearly show that he should be in the side.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I’d rather Marnus at 3 than Finch opening. Or Finch playing.

 

[JackOutback]

It’s interesting watching Australian fans eat their own when the chips are down. Selections have been fickle for years, but it was papered over by a couple of world class batsmen. But booing our own players, calling for a coach’s head after five Tests, this has a real ring of ‘90s England to it.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

It’s interesting watching Australian fans eat their own when the chips are down. Selections have been fickle for years, but it was papered over by a couple of world class batsmen. But booing our own players, calling for a coach’s head after five Tests, this has a real ring of ‘90s England to it.

The booing wasn't great, but what do you expect when you pick a bloke averaging 25 to bat in the top 6.

 

[JackOutback]

The booing wasn't great, but what do you expect when you pick a bloke averaging 25 to bat in the top 6.

Not booing?

 

[eddiesmith]

Not booing?

How will you all react when Smith gets the reception he deserves in England?

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

How will you all react when Smith gets the reception he deserves in England?

The two aren't even related. Australians booing an Australian v English booing Smith.

 

[Cdog71]

It’s interesting watching Australian fans eat their own when the chips are down. Selections have been fickle for years, but it was papered over by a couple of world class batsmen. But booing our own players, calling for a coach’s head after five Tests, this has a real ring of ‘90s England to it.

It’s also the first real opportunity to vent a bit after a few dickhead moves... they brought the game into disrepute but they also
f..ked with our summer and our team and our chance to see Australia beat India.
People are shi.ty, but it was the right choice for that wicket, I’m not sure but I think we bowled 170 overs in two days high 30’s?
Our batters are doin well to last 110.
Another reason for the extra bowler...
Last ten tests
Starc. 17 wickets at 47
Hazelwood 18 wickets at 40
Lyon. 29 wickets at 43
Cummins 30 wickets at 23

I know we played UAE ave 80 a wicket... but still there not great numbers

 

[Borisdog]

It's pretty hard to go out and buy a Maserati when every car yard you go to has got nothing but base model Commodores in it.

We simply don't have any ( Good ) options at the moment.

Anyone the selectors choose can be met with a counter-argument from supporters of Player X.

What we need;

1. A top 6 who can get the side to about 6/280 odd in most conditions. You'll hold your own doing that. Assuming 8,9,10,Jack aren't complete bunnies.
2. 4 bowlers who can take 20 wickets in most conditions.
3. A bloke who lives in that top 6 who can trundle down 10 or so overs of whatever without looking too out of place. Or even 2 who can bowl 5 each.
4. A bloke who can keep wickets.


See our problem?

 

[King Elvis]

Insane.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Is M Marsh definitely not playing?

 

[Stopher]

Was interesting listening to Peter Lalor on TGC. Stated he had information that Hilton Cartwright was only picked in the test side a couple of years ago to 'Give Mitch a kick up the backside' and they had always planned to go back to Mitch regardless of how well Cartwright did.

So basically screwing with someones career to motivate someone they were desperate to succeed.

See Rob Quiney and Phil Hughes. Just shit reasoning gor selection and potentially ****ing with a guy's career for the sake of it.

 

[Underarm]

Arguably the 2 best sides ever (1980-95 Windies and 1995-08 Aussies) didn't need an all rounder, unless the all rounder can be in the side for one thing specifically he shouldn't be there. As you end up weakening your batting without really strengthening the bowling.

Carl Hooper?
Viv Richards and Mark/Steve waugh bowled a bit as well.

Both of those sides had high quality bowling lineups that you didn't really need to turn to part time bowlers. When the quicks bowl as badly/pitch is as bad as it was on day 1 in Melbourne , picking the extra bowler has some merit.

Sadly Marsh and the other all rounder from the past decade haven't been needed/used enough in that way.

 

[t_94]

It’s interesting watching Australian fans eat their own when the chips are down. Selections have been fickle for years, but it was papered over by a couple of world class batsmen. But booing our own players, calling for a coach’s head after five Tests, this has a real ring of ‘90s England to it.

A lot of people werent sold on the coach to start with and he's done nothing to change that perception. Seems out of his depth and has a tendency to play favourites.