Fourth Test team

[King Elvis]

Whatever Maxwell has done, just forgive him. At least he wasn't one of the leading' lights' of sandpaper gate.

I hope Marnus makes me eat my words but FFS.

Maxwell is the obvious selection.

Burns should come in as well.

 

[Westend]

I think that having Labuschagne in the squad is a good move by the selectors

The SCG turns and Marnus bowls handy legspin...has a good technique with the bat and could make a handy number six

Did take 3 wickets in his last test and made a nice 40 odd can also play spin

Also and what I think a lot of people are forgetting is that we do not have specialist backpad.....marnus is ...he is a jet .We saw in Melb that close in fielders catches are gold....head missed a easy chance and India's close in fielders caught well

Finch will go down the order and bat 5 or 6 maybe marnus at 5 finch 6

team I would go for with the squad we have

Harris
Usman
S marsh
Head
Marnus
Finch
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazelwood

12 Handscomb someone who can catch....Siddle should never be on the test field again

 

[saj_21]

Best to put your parochialism aside.

There is a correlation with the more Victorians in the side the worse the national squad becomes - and that includes ex-Victorians as well, people pushing for Wade to be picked as a batsman must have rocks in their head.

Correlation isn’t causation.

Wade has probably hit 800 plus run across 3 formats this year. So yeah must have rocks in our head for suggesting we pick a batsmen who is making runs.

 

[HLM*]

Correlation isn’t causation.

Wade has probably hit 800 plus run across 3 formats this year. So yeah must have rocks in our head for suggesting we pick a batsmen who is making runs.

Has scored 1000 from shield cricket this year alone.

 

[big_e]

Best thing that ever happened to Bancroft was getting the ban as he is talked about as being an automatic inclusion who should be rushed straight in. While I have sympathy for what happened he was basically holding on for dear life to his sopt to begin with.

Our highest scorer in the SA series, despite missing the last test. But yeah, holding on for dear life....

 

[MALTSY]

Labuschagne is techniquely a better batsman. He had 2 tests in the UAE and performed commendably, how many chances do all the dud Victorians get that shouldn't have been selected in the first place as they don't have the techniques to stand-up to Test match cricket - referring to Harris, Finch and Handscombe; the lot of them are just walking wickets.

In addition, to which Labuschagne provided a useful bowling alternative and judging by his catching in the UAE he has Peter Siddle covered in the field.

He is in no way technically a better batsmen!

 

[bluespooner]

You can’t compare Siddle vs lubaschagne. Besides Siddle has taken over 200 test wickets, he is passed his best but to suggest he can’t bowl is laughable.

Maybe finch has just been unlucky this series...? If he had more luck he could of made more runs. No his form isn’t good enough.

Arguing lubaschagne needed more luck to make runs, or he bowls handy leggies and don’t forget he is a good fielder. It’s all lacking one thing - actual runs something you need in order to bat top 6 for Australia

Labuschagne picked up 7 wickets in two tests that is more than handy. That said he must earn his spot as a batsman, he has a sound batting technique which over time will pay dividends. How are tonkers like Finch and Wade even being compared in the same sentence, they will never be consistent players at Test level - there not good enough (should never be even near an Australian Test squad). Next, Victorians will be wanting 2 shot Cameron White to be included - block or swipe across the line to mid-wicket.

Why was Labuschagne only given two tests to allow the techniquely poor and with substantially more opportunities Pete Handscombe another opportunity - he had already been shown to have a technique that is not Test standard, and guess what history repeated.

There is a reason, why when NSW is strong Australia is strong because they back in young talent that has the possibility for development to succeed in the national squad. Victoria seems to concentrate on 30 year olds, with no development, but hey they might occasionally win the Shield with their veterans.

 

[MALTSY]

Cam White is a completely different player to Tim Paine. But yes I suppose they are about the same age.
Minus Gilchrist can you name many Aus wicketkeepers with a test batting average as good as Paine? His glove work is certainly very sound too. I think he's doing ok all things considered

I think he is doing ok as well but its sobering to consider his Shield average was around 29 when selected for the test team.

 

[ROOTA#6]

I think he is doing ok as well but its sobering to consider his Shield average was around 29 when selected for the test team.

Tim Paine is the least of our worries

 

[1990crow]

Labuschagne picked up 7 wickets in two tests that is more than handy. That said he must earn his spot as a batsman, he has a sound batting technique which over time will pay dividends. How are tonkers like Finch and Wade even being compared in the same sentence, they will never be consistent players at Test level - there not good enough (should never be even near an Australian Test squad). Next, Victorians will be wanting 2 shot Cameron White to be included - block or swipe across the line to mid-wicket.

Why was Labuschagne only given two tests to allow the techniquely poor and with substantially more opportunities Pete Handscombe another opportunity - he had already been shown to have a technique that is not Test standard, and guess what history repeated.

There is a reason, why when NSW is strong Australia is strong because they back in young talent that has the possibility for development to succeed in the national squad. Victoria seems to concentrate on 30 year olds, with no development, but hey they might occasionally win the Shield with their veterans.

Going on quite the stretch to call Lubuschagne technically correct.
Can’t be too technically correct given his batting record is dismal.

 

[Consistently Knowing All]

Maxwell is the obvious selection.

Burns should come in as well.

Marnus is so shit...there is no real other way of illustrating nor discussing it.

The Australian selectors and the brown nosed gnome have now stated that Marnus is better than Maxwell.........

Burns is not getting a go anytime soon. He was caught by Boof in the Hobart test dogging a few times at the ground. The first time, Boof stated he shouldnt do it again. Then the next time.....

And there we have it. The major scoop.

 

[PhatBoy]

I think that having Labuschagne in the squad is a good move by the selectors

The SCG turns and Marnus bowls handy legspin...has a good technique with the bat and could make a handy number six

Did take 3 wickets in his last test and made a nice 40 odd can also play spin

Also and what I think a lot of people are forgetting is that we do not have specialist backpad.....marnus is ...he is a jet .We saw in Melb that close in fielders catches are gold....head missed a easy chance and India's close in fielders caught well

Finch will go down the order and bat 5 or 6 maybe marnus at 5 finch 6

team I would go for with the squad we have

Harris
Usman
S marsh
Head
Marnus
Finch
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazelwood

12 Handscomb someone who can catch....Siddle should never be on the test field again

He did ok. But as Craddock said today, is there really any point, something that is going to be gained, picking another questionable-levelled batsman, who’s alternate skill is leg spin, against India?

Lyon, while I personally don’t think he’s quite at the very top of the spin bowling tree, IS world class. He has played some tests against India on absolute junk piles that neither team could handle, and has taken a lot of wickets due to India seemingly targeting him, and he STILL only has a relatively modest average against them. I don’t see how a part time leggie is going to have much of an impact

 

[Tigerssaints]

I think he is doing ok as well but its sobering to consider his Shield average was around 29 when selected for the test team.

In Shield Tim , generally batted down the list 5/6/7
only opened in shorter formats

 

[MALTSY]

Labuschagne picked up 7 wickets in two tests that is more than handy. That said he must earn his spot as a batsman, he has a sound batting technique which over time will pay dividends. How are tonkers like Finch and Wade even being compared in the same sentence, they will never be consistent players at Test level - there not good enough (should never be even near an Australian Test squad). Next, Victorians will be wanting 2 shot Cameron White to be included - block or swipe across the line to mid-wicket.

Why was Labuschagne only given two tests to allow the techniquely poor and with substantially more opportunities Pete Handscombe another opportunity - he had already been shown to have a technique that is not Test standard, and guess what history repeated.

There is a reason, why when NSW is strong Australia is strong because they back in young talent that has the possibility for development to succeed in the national squad. Victoria seems to concentrate on 30 year olds, with no development, but hey they might occasionally win the Shield with their veterans.

So this is really about you wanting more NSW more players in the test team than Victoria? Sheesh!

 

[bluespooner]

He did ok. But as Craddock said today, is there really any point, something that is going to be gained, picking another questionable-levelled batsman, who’s alternate skill is leg spin, against India?

Lyon, while I personally don’t think he’s quite at the very top of the spin bowling tree, IS world class. He has played some tests against India on absolute junk piles that neither team could handle, and has taken a lot of wickets due to India seemingly targeting him, and he STILL only has a relatively modest average against them. I don’t see how a part time leggie is going to have much of an impact

Well he picked up 7 wickets in two Tests against Pakistan and they are no slouches when it comes to playing spinners.

 

[eth-dog]

Marnus is so shit...there is no real other way of illustrating nor discussing it.

The Australian selectors and the brown nosed gnome have now stated that Marnus is better than Maxwell.........

Burns is not getting a go anytime soon. He was caught by Boof in the Hobart test dogging a few times at the ground. The first time, Boof stated he shouldnt do it again. Then the next time.....

And there we have it. The major scoop.

Marnus is a young player that hasn't had time to develop yet. He's not test standard (yet) however he has a solid technique and could be a player of the future. I'd back him in to be a good player in the future.

 

[ROOTA#6]

Well he picked up 7 wickets in two Tests against Pakistan and they are no slouches when it comes to playing spinners.

On UAE dust bowls for Christs sake...bowling part time leg spin to Indian batsmen in Australia is asking for trouble. When are people going to ****ing wake up.

Our bowlers aren't our issue. Our batsmen have cost us both Tests we have lost

 

[eddiesmith]

Our highest scorer in the SA series, despite missing the last test. But yeah, holding on for dear life....

Worst batsman by far in the Ashes, even out scored massively by Mitch Marsh who missed the first 2 tests

 

[bluespooner]

So this is really about you wanting more NSW more players in the test team than Victoria? Sheesh!

No, I want a bloke to be given more than 2 Tests, who happens to represent Queensland, after performing commendably in UAE. Most of these Victorian batsmen have been given multiple opportunities; they have abysmal techniques that means they will never be consistent at Test level; the way out of the predictament is to back in players with talent i.e. batsmen with technique.

That is something Labuschagne has, but he needs to be given a block of matches.

 

[eth-dog]

In Shield Tim , generally batted down the list 5/6/7
only opened in shorter formats

Fun fact, Tim Paine's only FC century came whilst he was opening the batting.

 

[eth-dog]

No, I want a bloke to be given more than 2 Tests, who happens to represent Queensland, after performing commendably in UAE. Most of these Victorian batsmen have been given multiple opportunities; they have abysmal techniques that means they will never be consistent at Test level; the way out of the predictament is to back in players with talent i.e. batsmen with technique.

That is something Labuschagne has, but he needs to be given a block of matches.

Dude, everyone can tell you just want to rag on Victoria and Victorians in general. Don't try to hide it.

 

[MALTSY]

In Shield Tim , generally batted down the list 5/6/7
only opened in shorter formats

Correct. Still an underhelming average for a wkeeper/batsman. I think the more youthful Carey currently has an average of 29?
At time of selection, I dont think Paine was even the wicketkeeper?
That said, Paine must be an excellent leader and solid citizen and I reckon he has done an exceptional job + his test average is almost 36!

 

[PhatBoy]

Well he picked up 7 wickets in two Tests against Pakistan and they are no slouches when it comes to playing spinners.

They are pretty poor against it. Murali, Warne, Swann, Herath - all hasn’t fantastic records against Pakistan. Hell, Mark Craig took 7 in an innings against them and he’s arguably the worst spinner I’ve ever seen play an international. Plus, their batting is absolutely terrible since Misbah and Younis retired. They produce a lot of decent spinners but they’re inferior to Sri Lanka and India at playing it

 

[Cainozz]

What happened to Hilton Cartwright? Seemingly was the next big thing and really liked the look of his technique. I feel like Marnus is in a similar boat, not quite ready but in a few years with a few seasons in the shield, could develop into a very good middle order player.

 

[Dragz]

does anyone have the stats to this?

Players with highest average this season who've played at least 3 matches.

Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR
SE Marsh 3 6 1 443 163* 88.6 736 60.19
MS Harris 5 8 1 501 250* 71.57 875 57.25
MS Wade 6 12 3 571 137 63.44 1063 53.71
MG Neser 5 8 2 312 76* 52 564 55.31
NCR Larkin 6 11 1 494 175* 49.4 958 51.56
KR Patterson 6 11 2 428 107* 47.55 1052 40.68
JA Burns 6 12 2 472 96 47.2 780 60.51
DP Hughes 6 11 1 462 134 46.2 1051 43.95
JS Lehmann 6 11 1 461 126 46.1 967 47.67
TLW Cooper 6 11 0 501 178 45.54 786 63.74
PSP Handscomb 5 8 0 361 123 45.12 559 64.57
MP Stoinis 4 7 0 298 85 42.57 451 66.07
CL White 5 8 1 293 119 41.85 543 53.95
MC Henriques 6 10 0 412 152 41.2 566 72.79