Fourth Test team

[Art Vandelay_]

Wade is actually performing, though. He's 31. Mike Hussey didn't even debut until he was 30 and he was OK. Even with Smith and Warner available why wouldn't you look at Wade? We have Finch, Harris, two Marshs, Head currently in the side with Handscomb in the squad.

Labuschagne 254 @ 28 with 2 50s
Wade 571 @ 63 with 1 100 and 5 50s

Our coach though...

 

[Richard Pryor]

If it’s true, that’s hilarious.

That kind of self confidence says captaincy material to me!

 

[t_94]

Never really got a good feeling abkout Langer. Brett Kirk vibes in addition to playonf favourites. Also anyone who is that close to Matthew Hayden is probably a pretty average bloke themselves.

 

[james brayshaw]

Gillespie would have been a great coach, Langer is a simpleton.

 

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[Doodlesweaver]

Gillespie would have been a great coach, Langer is a simpleton.

Shame Gillespie didn't want the job, isn't it?

 

[Crashy]

So we are basically just swapping military mediums for long hops and candy nuts.

Why not play specialists and back them, instead of always wanting an allrounder that has never won us a test?

 

[bh90210fan]

Just piss off Finch and M Marsh and bring in Burns and Wade for the love of god. If India bat for 100 overs, Lyon will bowl 40 of them. They don’t need an all rounder. Head can bowl a few if he has to.

 

[King Elvis]

Just piss off Finch and M Marsh and bring in Burns and Wade for the love of god. If India bat for 100 overs, Lyon will bowl 40 of them. They don’t need an all rounder. Head can bowl a few if he has to.

Bloody oath.

Our coach though...

Good on Geeves for calling the obvious.

 

[eddiesmith]

Not really. Only Head is likely to get some runs regardless

Yes they would. Finch averaged 45 whilst Labuschagne averaged 20 so I’m very confident he would do better than Marnus and both Finch and Maxwell on an SCG road against spinners down the order would cash in.

 

[Richard Pryor]

The further Geeves gets away from his playing days the more palatable a pundit he becomes. Did come across as a guy with a case of sour grapes at first, but it is good to have media voices outside of the CA 'family' (Cowan & Katich are others).

 

[HODGEYROAD]

If Langer thinks Finch is worth persisting with and a long term option, then we need to get him sacked ASAP.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Marsh averages 25 in Tests and opts out of the IPL = the devil

Maxwell averages 25 in Tests and opts out of the IPL = hero

Perception is a fine thing FWIW I’m not against Maxwell getting another shot in the whites.

Give Maxwell 30 Tests and I'm tipping that he averages more than that 25.

 

[bird_man]

Early days I know, but I've been pretty disappointed with the way JL has been going about things. I think it's been half a dozen times now he's whinged about so many people wanting to have a say in the media about selection. Not sure what he was expecting.

Whinging about the wickets this week as well. I'm not sure we can blame the wicket for getting bowled out for 2 low totals.

Seems like he has a different issue every couple of days.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

Early days I know, but I've been pretty disappointed with the way JL has been going about things. I think it's been half a dozen times now he's whinged about so many people wanting to have a say in the media about selection. Not sure what he was expecting.

Whinging about the wickets this week as well. I'm not sure we can blame the wicket for getting bowled out for 2 low totals.

Seems like he has a different issue every couple of days.

He can hardly come out and say 'Christ on a bike! I've got no batsmen!' however much he might long to do just that. Deflection, deflection...

 

[Doodlesweaver]

Give Maxwell 30 Tests and I'm tipping that he averages more than that 25.

He might, however you'd think he'd be able to average more in one day cricket than he does.

I'm not against Maxwell, I wish they'd give him more chances at test level for sure, but I don't see him as a saviour. We need proper test match batsmen and lucky batsmen.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Early days I know, but I've been pretty disappointed with the way JL has been going about things. I think it's been half a dozen times now he's whinged about so many people wanting to have a say in the media about selection. Not sure what he was expecting.

Whinging about the wickets this week as well. I'm not sure we can blame the wicket for getting bowled out for 2 low totals.

Seems like he has a different issue every couple of days.

I think some people have been a little quick to judge Langer, i haven't been the biggest fan but he needs time. But that comment about not having players stamping the door down to get picked is the biggest load of rubbish i have heard.

We all know that we don't have a huge amount of amazing talent at shield level at the moment, but how can you complain about that when you aren't even picking the best batsman in the Country at the moment? Are we supposed to just assume that they would actually get picked if we had a bunch of gun batsman, or would we get the same team building character guys in the team?

Our depth is far from great but you can not complain that we do not have the talent at Shield level while refusing to pick the best performing players...

What a crap comment from him

 

[bird_man]

He can hardly come out and say 'Christ on a bike! I've got no batsmen!' however much he might long to do just that. Deflection, deflection...

Actually, I'm pretty sure he said something similar to that. Told us that everyone banging on the door is averaging in the 30's which makes it hard to be a selector.

This is despite the fact they continue to overlook Burns who has been averaging close to 50 and Maxwell who averages in the 40's and choose to pick blokes with FC averages around or below 30.

Seems to be sending mixed messages quite a lot as well.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

He might, however you'd think he'd be able to average more in one day cricket than he does.

I'm not against Maxwell, I wish they'd give him more chances at test level for sure, but I don't see him as a saviour. We need proper test match batsmen and lucky batsmen.

Yeah I don't think he'd be our saviour or anything, was just merely pointing out he'd do better than Mitch Marsh if he got the same opportunity.

 

[JackOutback]

Actually, I'm pretty sure he said something similar to that. Told us that everyone banging on the door is averaging in the 30's which makes it hard to be a selector.

This is despite the fact they continue to overlook Burns who has been averaging close to 50 and Maxwell who averages in the 40's and choose to pick blokes with FC averages around or below 30.

Seems to be sending mixed messages quite a lot as well.

Burns might be averaging 47 or so this season but his overall average is still about 40. Ditto Maxwell. I don’t agree with some of the selections but the statement that no batsman is banging down the door with a first class average of 50 is sadly true.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Burns might be averaging 47 or so this season but his overall average is still about 40. Ditto Maxwell. I don’t agree with some of the selections but the statement that no batsman is banging down the door with a first class average of 50 is sadly true.

That average by Burns and for that matter Maxwell is still a mile better than who continually gets picked.

Players were told to go back and score runs...then what happens...Marsh recalled after 1 score and 6 failures averaging under 35 this season. Then we have Laubasghe averaging mid 20's. Exactly what are you picking players on? The golden rule should be...BE TRANSPARENT. Don't say something and do the complete opposite.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Give Maxwell 30 Tests and I'm tipping that he averages more than that 25.

Couldn't be worse with the bat, and I bet Maxwell doesn't drop too many catches.

 

[bird_man]

Burns might be averaging 47 or so this season but his overall average is still about 40. Ditto Maxwell. I don’t agree with some of the selections but the statement that no batsman is banging down the door with a first class average of 50 is sadly true.

On top of averaging 47 this year, Burns had a season averaging over 55 last year.

Maxwell also had an average over 50 last season.

It is true we aren't in a time where we have dozens of batsmen piling on the runs at shield level, but surely it makes sense to pick the guys that are at least making runs rather than the guys that aren't. And then telling the public these guys aren't making enough runs to bang the door down, whilst at the same time picking guys averaging in in the low 30's.

 

[Richard Pryor]

Burns might be averaging 47 or so this season but his overall average is still about 40. Ditto Maxwell. I don’t agree with some of the selections but the statement that no batsman is banging down the door with a first class average of 50 is sadly true.

This makes sense in defense of selecting Travis Head, but an average of 40 as an opener is the equivalent of an average of 50 when the incumbent is averaging 26 in the Test team. Also personally think that when considering pure numbers openers should get 5 added to their average to adjust for them always having to face the new ball.

 

[legend166]

Langer is a goose but he's not wrong really. I'd be happy for them to pick Wade but let's not act as if half a season averaging over 50 is banging the door down.

My real problem is the constant picking of players who already have a long history of failure, I.e. the Marsh brothers.