Geelong rorting the system

[Strange Cat]

The new boss of Finance at AFL House is a Geelong guy.

He will give the Scott deal a thorough 30 second review before signing off on it.

Coaches work 60 to 80 hours a week. Im sure he is putting in a solid 37.5 hours at his new job as well.

Pretty naive to think it’ll be a 37 hours a week job , more like seminars and sponsorship photo opportunities

Much like Judd’s ist job wasn’t all consuming and a host of other 3rd party deals

 

[yeahmate]

He could tag Brad to step in to a few zoom meetings for him and throw some dollars his way if he just gets too stretched holding down two full time gigs at the same time. Probably also could re use some of his pre match speeches to the cats and find and replace "cats" with "company", "cvnts" with "competitors", "ball" with "dollars", etc, etc for his corporate presos so he doesn't have to do too much extra prep work

 

[iameviljez]

Big Footy is an eco chamber. I’m sure everyone believes it on the Geelong board but it makes zero sense. Geelong would be the richest club in the land if they make nearly double that of an 80k stadium for home games.

Collingwood don’t even average 80k yet Geelong are raking in the cash like they have 130k attending each week.

Yeah, sounds legit.

Because match day income isn’t everything.

Merch. Sponsorship. Memberships. Coteries. TV and AFL money and equalisation. Outside investments. Pokies. Raffles.

 

[Taper]

I have a hard time believing that these posters truly believe the shit they write and lack that much critical thinking …surely they are just trolling to get a reaction

Right?

These people seem to conveniently ignore the fact we tried to arrange third party payments for Gary Ablett Jr and Tim Kelly because we were so desperate to try and keep them, only for the AFL to block the attempted deals.

 

[HairyO]

Off season.

Runs half a dozen leadership seminars.

Wears the company shirt to a few gatherings and signs up new clients.

Job done. Here's $100k.

Nothing abnormal about that TBH.

The equivalent of movie/tv stars demanding "Executive Producer" as their title while doing nothing.

 

[HairyO]

He could tag Brad to step in to a few zoom meetings for him and throw some dollars his way if he just gets too stretched holding down two full time gigs at the same time. Probably also could re use some of his pre match speeches to the cats and find and replace "cats" with "company", "cvnts" with "competitors", "ball" with "dollars", etc, etc for his corporate presos so he doesn't have to do too much extra prep work

"Mission accomplished".

 

[Hamingja]

Off season.

Runs half a dozen leadership seminars.

Wears the company shirt to a few gatherings and signs up new clients.

Job done. Here's $100k.

Nothing abnormal about that TBH.

Teach everyone a power stance.

Run a 4 day camp during the off season.

What could possibly go wrong.

Scotty has this.

 

[Purple Suit]

Pretty naive to think it’ll be a 37 hours a week job , more like seminars and sponsorship photo opportunities

Much like Judd’s ist job wasn’t all consuming and a host of other 3rd party deals

37 hours sounds right. Work from home (specifically his bed). Monday to Friday or even better, spread those hours out over Saturday too and bump up his pay.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Plus alcoholic drinks which would have a fair mark up as well

It is a "clean Stadium", meaning all advertising revenue in the stadium goes directly to Geelong, where the cash comes from. Unlike other teams when they play at the other ovals, which lose part of the advertising space to oval-specific advertising

 

[Boxhead_31]

Big Footy is an eco chamber. I’m sure everyone believes it on the Geelong board but it makes zero sense. Geelong would be the richest club in the land if they make nearly double that of an 80k stadium for home games.

Collingwood don’t even average 80k yet Geelong are raking in the cash like they have 130k attending each week.

Yeah, sounds legit.

This is Brian Cook speaking to the Australian Senate in 2008/2009 about establishing a Tasmanian team, so if you don't want to believe him when he says there, well, there is no pleasing you.

.......at Skilled Stadium when you have a capacity of 25,000, we make a net profit in that game of $638,000 per game, which is $26 per head. If we have a crowd of 85,500 at the MCG, which we did have against Collingwood in 2007, we brought home $771,000, which was $9 a head. Importantly, Telstra, now Etihad Stadium, with a near capacity of 46,000, we brought home $293,000, which is $6 a head. So when you compare a crowd at Skilled of 25,000 compared to Telstra, which is nearly twice as much at 46, you at Skilled bring home to the club $638,000 out of all revenue sources per game and only $293,000 from Telstra. It is extremely important that if an AFL stadium is developed in Tasmania, the lease arrangements and the revenue attraction arrangements provide a high yield to ensure sustainability. It is pretty simple, really.

Main takeaway - At KP, for a 25k crowd, Geelong gathers $26 per head. At the MCG for a 77k crowd, Geelong gathers $9 a head; at the Docklands for a 40k crowd, Geelong gathers $6 per head.

 

[Purple Suit]

This is Brian Cook speaking to the Australian Senate in 2008/2009 about establishing a Tasmanian team, so if you don't want to believe him when he says there, well, there is no pleasing you.


Main takeaway - At KP, for a 25k crowd, Geelong gathers $26 per head. At the MCG for a 77k crowd, Geelong gathers $9 a head; at the Docklands for a 40k crowd, Geelong gathers $6 per head.

Main takeaway - Geelong still made more money off 77k at the G. What happened 15 years ago doesn’t mean it applies today.

 

[Strange Cat]

Main takeaway - Geelong still made more money off 77k at the G. What happened 15 years ago doesn’t mean it applies today.

You really are dense aren’t you?

 

[Purple Suit]

You really are dense aren’t you?

Did Brian Cook make personal attacks too 15 years ago? There are a whole heap of Geelong posters with that quote saved, ready to post at a moments notice.

 

[random260]

Looks like the Manchester City cats have stepped too far.

They need to lay low because everybody is on to them.

If they try any funny business on Harley like Mancher City Cat fan say then they will have jumped the gun to the point where the whole organisation gets audited. That's not a hyperbole. 100k wce fans and the whole state will be on to them

I have no doubt the potential outcry from the west will cause change

 

[Obeanie1]

The equivalent of movie/tv stars demanding "Executive Producer" as their title while doing nothing.

Tiger Woods was paid appearence money just to turn up and play. Never mind the finishing position money.

Extreme example.

How much are "influencers" paid to represent and support a brand? Some get millions.

All Scott needs to do is be directly involved in some legit marketing or training digital material used online. Whats that worth?

 

[Strange Cat]

Did Brian Cook make personal attacks too 15 years ago? There are a whole heap of Geelong posters with that quote saved, ready to post at a moments notice.

So I take it that is a yes

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Main takeaway - Geelong still made more money off 77k at the G. What happened 15 years ago doesn’t mean it applies today.

77k x 9 = 693k
35k x 26 = 910k
So um, no, they make less at the G it needs to basically sell out the whole stadium to be comparable

you're also right in that the situation has likely changed. The increase in capacity will have seen better coverage of overheads and we'd be making more in both headcount and per person revenue.

 

[dean33]

Geelong are merely an extension of league headquarters. Rules are changed on their say so, dodgy under the table deals are made both with players and coaches. It won’t be long before they introduce a cost of living allowance for all Victorian teams outside of Melbourne.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Chris Slingscott to Morris Execs, who are renowned for getting themselves in trouble rushing through dodgy loans:

"Happy to do them slowly boys...."

& to same group eagerly observing a loan consultant trying to sign up a loan from a cold call to hit the monthly target:

"He converts this we win."

Yes siree, he is going to be one hell of a Chief Leadership & Performance Enhancing Chief person.

 

[btdg]

The football club did, the State Government did, the AFL did, the Federal Government did, and the Geelong council did.
No different to every other stadium

If Carlton had of stayed at Princess Park, and lobbied the same entities, they might also have such a ground for themselves, rather than moving you home ground to Marvel and MCG.

The difference is that the AFL put a gun to Carlton's head and forced us to move.
We didn't have a choice - would happily still be playing at PP otherwise.

The Docklands deals have been awful for Carlton, financially and on field. That was the point, of course.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Main takeaway - Geelong still made more money off 77k at the G. What happened 15 years ago doesn’t mean it applies today.

Missing point as well is now they get 35-40k into the ground not 26k, so make more than the 77k at G

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Geelong will be an appealing destination as long as regional living remains affordable.

Sydney recieved cost of living allowance (COLA) for years to help compensate for high Sydney property prices.

I think it's time the AFL implement do the exact opposite for Geelong and slash their salary cap.

A Carlton supporter giving advice on salary caps.
Now I’ve heard it all.

 

[Purple Suit]

77k x 9 = 693k
35k x 26 = 910k
So um, no, they make less at the G it needs to basically sell out the whole stadium to be comparable

you're also right in that the situation has likely changed. The increase in capacity will have seen better coverage of overheads and we'd be making more in both headcount and per person revenue.

Yes, it’s changed so your sums are worthless in 2024. When the government spends 340m on upgrading a stadium, contracts and cost will change. You need to slowly pay for the 340m, they need 10k from every one of those seats over time to do that or an agreed proportion. It’s not free.

The G could be different too since it’s been 15 years. Deals and revenues flex.

If Geelong get a free stadium and pay for nothing, maybe the rorting goes into the state government too who are spending tax payers money with no return.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Yes, it’s changed so your sums are worthless in 2024. When the government spends 340m on upgrading a stadium, contracts and cost will change. You need to slowly pay for the 340m, they need 10k from every one of those seats over time to do that or an agreed proportion. It’s not free.

The G could be different too since it’s been 15 years. Deals and revenues flex.

If Geelong get a free stadium and pay for nothing, maybe the rorting goes into the state government too who are spending tax payers money with no return.

It's a state government asset. How much money do you think is actually going to be returned to the taxpayer here?

 

[NetworkNerd]

Yes, it’s changed so your sums are worthless in 2024. When the government spends 340m on upgrading a stadium, contracts and cost will change. You need to slowly pay for the 340m, they need 10k from every one of those seats over time to do that or an agreed proportion. It’s not free.

The G could be different too since it’s been 15 years. Deals and revenues flex.

If Geelong get a free stadium and pay for nothing, maybe the rorting goes into the state government too who are spending tax payers money with no return.

There was a period where 3 out of 4 premiers were Geelong supporters. That coupled with marginal seats getting alot of extra funding to entice voters