Geelong rorting the system

[CatToTheFuture]

If you want to hide outside the cap payments I'm sure a giant novelty cheque is the way to go

 

[Hamingja]

Missing point as well is now they get 35-40k into the ground not 26k, so make more than the 77k at G

Plus Collingwood are the only team that consistently has 70k show up. The Tigers squeal about coming down to KP but the last two games at the G against them drew 58,000 and 59,000. Take out the MCC and AFL members from those figures, who are non payers from Geelong's perspective, and it would barely be above the KP capacity now.

 

[Purple Suit]

It's a state government asset. How much money do you think is actually going to be returned to the taxpayer here?

No idea but in WA, the Optus deal wasn’t as lucrative as the Subi deal as the stadium operator was paying a proportion back to the state government for the 1.5B stadium they built. The ticket prices went up though and there were more seats so in the end the clubs do better out of it.

I assume the same would happen in Geelong. It’s not as simple as going off a 15 year old quote and adding on 15k seats worth of extra revenue like some punters believe.

The whole point is Geelong can pick and choose what suits them best, you have enough money that playing more at the G is better to experience the ground compared to 2 games a year most interstate teams get if they are lucky.

 

[Elixuh]

North's attempt.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

It does depend apparently. And it seems it's all ok to get caught and still get a game for Geelong.

Didn't the TAC cut ties with Geelong in 2017 after a spate of traffic offences by their players over time, including drink driving?

Stevie Johnson; Joel Selwood; Dawson Simpson; Billie Smedts & Brad Hartman all say hold my beer.

It’s also ok apparently for a leader of your club to openly fire off racist remarks at an indigenous player and be welcomed back with open arms….

 

[Sttew]

The equivalent of movie/tv stars demanding "Executive Producer" as their title while doing nothing.

All executive producer means is having “skin in the game”

 

[Cleric]

The difference is that the AFL put a gun to Carlton's head and forced us to move.
We didn't have a choice - would happily still be playing at PP otherwise.

The Docklands deals have been awful for Carlton, financially and on field. That was the point, of course.

They couldn't force you to leave. They may have asked you, and put pressure on you, but you didn't have to accept an offer.

 

[Sttew]

You really are dense aren’t you?

Incredibly

 

[Taper]

If you want to hide outside the cap payments I'm sure a giant novelty cheque is the way to go

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Thanks for posting that, now I'm craving some Town and Country Pizza .

 

[Strange Cat]

Thanks for posting that, now I'm craving some Town and Country Pizza .

Democracy pizza up here in qld

Tempting

 

[btdg]

They couldn't force you to leave. They may have asked you, and put pressure on you, but you didn't have to accept an offer.

We had no choice. We resisted (quite aggressively) but the AFL used the salary cap affair to force us. They promised to be more lenient if we ousted Elliott and replaced him with Ian Collins' faction - Collins was CEO of Docklands stadium at the time. They then issued fines that they knew we couldn't pay, and made 'financial relief' (ie: 'loans' that allowed us to spread the fines across multiple years) dependent on a move to Docklands.

Basically - we had to accept Docklands CEO as our President, and had to move games and abandon PP or the club would have been insolvent.

So yeah, they forced us to leave.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Thanks for posting that, now I'm craving some Town and Country Pizza .

I'm craving a ten thousand dollar cheque

 

[Strange Cat]

I'm craving a ten thousand dollar cheque

Now you’re cotton on to how it work

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Now you’re cotton on to how it work

If only I had robust knees, a vo2 max over 50, and literally any football skills above a div 3 ammos level

 

[Strange Cat]

If only I had robust knees, a vo2 max over 50, and literally any football skills above a div 3 ammos level

Don’t forget the long beautiful blonde hair and the fountain of Doggies tears

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Don’t forget the long beautiful blonde hair and the fountain of Doggies tears

Or in Stewys case a moustache that can solve a homicide case in 1980s new York entirely within the time constraints of a 30min TV episode

 

[Strange Cat]

Or in Stewys case a moustache that can solve a homicide case in 1980s new York entirely within the time constraints of a 30min TV episode

Probably better suited to an old western

 

[iameviljez]

Geelong are merely an extension of league headquarters. Rules are changed on their say so, dodgy under the table deals are made both with players and coaches. It won’t be long before they introduce a cost of living allowance for all Victorian teams outside of Melbourne.

If that was the case, Gary Ablett Jr would never have gone to the Gold Coast and the Mark Blicavs Ruck Nomination Rule would never have been introduced.

 

[Freomaniac]

Chris Scott just interviewed on Ch 7. Turns out his new position is not a soft cap rort. The deal was ticked off by the AFL before Scott committed.

So it's not exactly a massive scandal isn't it? It's been sorted out quickly and done well. At least the current AFL leaders are not as corrupt.

Andrew Demetriou on the other hand... Yeah. He tried to sweep the Essendon drug scandal under the rug and hoped it blew over.

Yeah that scandal got casual viewers. So bad publicity is better than no publicity.

 

[Freomaniac]

here is the official heirarchy of AFL have's to have-not's, if you're ever wondering why this happened to this club but not that, if you're ever wondering why X got suspended but Y got off, anything and everything, consult the table

Geelong
Melbourne
Collingwood
West Coast
Sydney
Brisbane
Richmond
Hawthorn
Carlton
Bulldogs
Gold Coast
West Sydney
Essendon
North Melbourne
Fremantle
St. Kilda
Adelaide
Port Adelaide

West Coast should be anchored to the bottom mate, not near the top, lmao.

I have posted this before and will post it again...

AFL in my opinion with the 18 clubs have prefered these certain (group of) clubs to win the flag.

1. NSW (Sydney and GWS) and Queensland (Brisbane and Gold coast ) clubs

2. Teams that play home games at the MCG (Essendon, Carlton, Collingwood, Melbourne, Richmond and Hawthorn).

3. Geelong

4. Teams that play home games at docklands. (Saints, dogs , Kangaroos)

5. SA (Port and Crows) and WA (Eagles and dockers) .


Tassie will be bunched into the SA and WA sides. Once Tassie has 400,000 each for Hobart and Launceston, each of them will have a club they will be in the bottom too as prefered winners.

 

[Boxhead_31]

No idea but in WA, the Optus deal wasn’t as lucrative as the Subi deal as the stadium operator was paying a proportion back to the state government for the 1.5B stadium they built. The ticket prices went up though and there were more seats so in the end the clubs do better out of it.

I assume the same would happen in Geelong. It’s not as simple as going off a 15 year old quote and adding on 15k seats worth of extra revenue like some punters believe.

The whole point is Geelong can pick and choose what suits them best, you have enough money that playing more at the G is better to experience the ground compared to 2 games a year most interstate teams get if they are lucky.

How much did the Eagles and Dockers contribute to Optus being built?
Cause for an assist they don’t own, Geelong contributed $50m towards the upgrades of the stadium to what it currently is.

 

[Del80659]

I have posted this before and will post it again...

AFL in my opinion with the 18 clubs have prefered these certain (group of) clubs to win the flag.

1. NSW (Sydney and GWS) and Queensland (Brisbane and Gold coast ) clubs

2. Teams that play home games at the MCG (Essendon, Carlton, Collingwood, Melbourne, Richmond and Hawthorn).

3. Geelong

4. Teams that play home games at docklands. (Saints, dogs , Kangaroos)

5. SA (Port and Crows) and WA (Eagles and dockers) .


Tassie will be bunched into the SA and WA sides. Once Tassie has 400,000 each for Hobart and Launceston, each of them will have a club they will be in the bottom too as prefered winners.

you just copied my post but got Geelong wrong

 

[Mitchell Madness]

If that was the case, Gary Ablett Jr would never have gone to the Gold Coast and the Mark Blicavs Ruck Nomination Rule would never have been introduced.

1. The afl changed their rules to ensure geelong got max value for ablest leaving - they actually came out after the fact to say "special consideration" could be made

2. The ruck nomination only became a thing after several other clubs started doing it too, after the afl said there was no issue with geelongs tactics

 

[Yoda_]

I have posted this before and will post it again...

AFL in my opinion with the 18 clubs have prefered these certain (group of) clubs to win the flag.

1. NSW (Sydney and GWS) and Queensland (Brisbane and Gold coast ) clubs

2. Teams that play home games at the MCG (Essendon, Carlton, Collingwood, Melbourne, Richmond and Hawthorn).

3. Geelong

4. Teams that play home games at docklands. (Saints, dogs , Kangaroos)

5. SA (Port and Crows) and WA (Eagles and dockers) .


Tassie will be bunched into the SA and WA sides. Once Tassie has 400,000 each for Hobart and Launceston, each of them will have a club they will be in the bottom too as prefered winners.

You want inequality, 18 team competition made up of the teams you have mentioned.

The finals is nearly always made up of 1/2 WA and SA sides, any combination of 2/4 Qld/NSW side, Geelong nearly always make it through home games and adding top level players.

that leaves the final 3 spots in the finals to be filled out by 3 of the 9 Melbourne clubs


Let that sink in

 

[iameviljez]

1. The afl changed their rules to ensure geelong got max value for ablest leaving - they actually came out after the fact to say "special consideration" could be made

2. The ruck nomination only became a thing after several other clubs started doing it too, after the afl said there was no issue with geelongs tactics

Yeah, but much like the stand rule hurt Richmond more than other sides, the ruck rule hurt Geelong more than other sides. Blicavs went up as third man more than twice as often as the next in the AFL, to cover for our weak ruck division.

Look, FWIW, I don't think there are any "favourite clubs" in the AFL bar the expansion duo (for obvious reasons).

Yes, with Ablett leaving, we did get "extra" value - yet again, the AFL making shit up on the fly, not having realised that there was going to be outrage over one of the best players of all time (and arguably the GOAT) leaving for a single first-round pick, until it happened. So instead we got two pretty ordinary first-round picks, hooray.