Geelong rorting the system

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Forcing richmond to play an away game against a non melbourne team away from the mcg.

Has there ever been a team in the world that are perpetually knocking down and rebuilding grandstands, that encroach on the mis-shapen playing arena , even though the ground is only used 10 times a year?

 

[Seeds]

Has there ever been a team in the world that are perpetually knocking down and rebuilding grandstands, that encroach on the mis-shapen playing arena , even though the ground is only used 10 times a year?

Wembley? Lords? Relevance to anything?

 

[PhatBoy]

Has there ever been a team in the world that are perpetually knocking down and rebuilding grandstands, that encroach on the mis-shapen playing arena , even though the ground is only used 10 times a year?

Mis-shapen according to who? You?

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Mis-shapen according to who? You?

According to this satellite image and it's well documented the ground got brought in 2 meters on the Moorabool st side and that the pockets are not symetrical.

 

[PhatBoy]

According to this satellite image and it's well documented the ground got brought in 2 meters on the Moorabool st side and that the pockets are not symetrical.

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Again, misshapen according to who, you? Where are these regulations about the shape? I am not aware of this rule about symmetrical identical grounds. Can you point me to it please

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Again, misshapen according to who, you? Where are these regulations about the shape? I am not aware of this rule about symmetrical identical grounds. Can you point me to it please

There's no rules about what the shape has to be but it is 2024 and it's laughable Geelong think their ground is acceptable in the modern era.

 

[STPer18]

I haven't been keeping up, what's their latest rort?

Stealing money from the NDIS.

 

[PhatBoy]

There's no rules about what the shape has to be but it is 2024 and it's laughable Geelong think their ground is acceptable in the modern era.

I think your inability as a full grown adult to accept the shape of a patch of turf and the idea that professional footballers can’t cope with it is pretty pathetic in the modern era.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

I think your inability as a full grown adult to accept the shape of a patch of turf and the idea that professional footballers can’t cope with it is pretty pathetic in the modern era.

It won't be long before it's a perfect rectangle.

 

[PhatBoy]

It won't be long before it's a perfect rectangle.

It’s been the same shape forever and day. Not sure why it would suddenly change now. At some point you might learn to deal with it, though.

 

[hawkman]

It won't be long before it's a perfect rectangle.

Please provide a first hand report in Round 17

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

It’s been the same shape forever and day. Not sure why it would suddenly change now. At some point you might learn to deal with it, though.

It hasn't been the same shape, the pockets and the Moorabool st side have been mangled

 

[PhatBoy]

It hasn't been the same shape, the pockets and the Moorabool st side have been mangled

The moorabool st side has always been straight

Literally look at the grass across two photos 40 years apart and tell me how much it’s changed you sook. At some point would you just, grow, a spine.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

The moorabool st side has always been straight

Literally look at the grass across two photos 40 years apart and tell me how much it’s changed you sook. At some point would you just, grow, a spine.

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The top pic is a circle and I don't even know what to call the bottom one.

 

[Sttew]

The moorabool st side has always been straight

Literally look at the grass across two photos 40 years apart and tell me how much it’s changed you sook. At some point would you just, grow, a spine.

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I bet Aristotle has NEVER been to a game at GMHBA / Kardinia Park.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

You won’t get Butters as he is about to rs-sign with Port.

There's more than one of them.

 

[PhatBoy]

The top pic is a circle and I don't even know what to call the bottom one.

yes the top pic is a circle.
This is a circle



Is it just, you know, genetic with you? Do you take lessons in being moronic? Did you have you spine surgically removed or is it just a huge combination of all of them?

 

[TheEscapeClub]

In '87 or '88, I was working at the brand new Coles store in Bay City Plaza (now Westfield). Ron Hovey had Ablett Snr driving flat bed trucks to keep him out of trouble during the day.

Ablett pulled into our loading dock one lunch time, the storeman was on lunch, and I was the fill-in for the hour. Ablett and I had a quick chat and then he took off across the road while I took care of the freight.

Ablett came back about 15mins later after I had finished, he had with him two double cone ice-creams with three scoops in each, he handed me one of them, it was butterscotch, mint choc chip and strawberry. Across the road in Yarra St was any awesome little ice-creamery next to Wal's Barber Shop and the Britannia Hotel (The Brit)

Ablett told me he had been given them for free outside of the salary cap, but in a moment of what I could only call weakness, I greedily accepted the ice-cream and we ate them as we chatted. Once Gaz had left, I reflected on what I had been an accomplice to and felt dirty about it.

Was he buying my silence by giving me a free ice-cream?

I have often reflected on this encounter in the ensuing 35+ years and feel shamed by the immorality of what I had been a party to and my continuing weakness in not contacting the AFL Integrity department about this blatant flouting of the salary cap.

I will take this shame to my grave.

 

[Sttew]

In '87 or '88, I was working at the brand new Coles store in Bay City Plaza (now Westfield). Ron Hovey had Ablett Snr driving flat bed trucks to keep him out of trouble during the day.

Ablett pulled into our loading dock one lunch time, the storeman was on lunch, and I was the fill-in for the hour. Ablett and I had a quick chat and then he took off across the road while I took care of the freight.

Ablett came back about 15mins later after I had finished, he had with him two double cone ice-creams with three scoops in each, he handed me one of them, it was butterscotch, mint choc chip and strawberry. Across the road in Yarra St was any awesome little ice-creamery next to Wal's Barber Shop and the Britannia Hotel (The Brit)

Ablett told me he had been given them for free outside of the salary cap, but in a moment of what I could only call weakness, I greedily accepted the ice-cream and we ate them as we chatted. Once Gaz had left, I reflected on what I had been an accomplice to and felt dirty about it.

Was he buying my silence by giving me a free ice-cream?

I have often reflected on this encounter in the ensuing 35+ years and feel shamed by the immorality of what I had been a party to and my continuing weakness in not contacting the AFL Integrity department about this blatant flouting of the salary cap.

I will take this shame to my grave.

Not too late for the AFL to investigate. Are you onto it Aristotle Pickett ?

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Not too late for the AFL to investigate. Are you onto it Aristotle Pickett ?

I don't mind the great champion getting free ice-cream or even a free car but Chris Scott getting $200,000 to make one phone call a weak is a bit too much.

 

[Leeda]

Pork chop

 

[Meteoric Rise]

The moorabool st side has always been straight

Literally look at the grass across two photos 40 years apart and tell me how much it’s changed you sook. At some point would you just, grow, a spine.

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Shows a picture that clearly establishes changes relevant to the conversation then tries to claim it hasn't changed. Fmd.

But this is beside the point the ground is a huge outlier in shape and always has been. This is why over time Geelong on average all time have outscored their opponents at the venue by 18 points per match, scoring around 23% more per game there than their opponents on average, & wins 68% of their games there all time.

Current main home ground all time records:

*home ground defined as the ground the team plays the most games on per year on average, only the club's home games at the ground are counted.

Geelong - KP - win% 68% - ave margin - +18 points
Port Adelaide - AO - 67% - +19 points
Essendon - MCG - 64% - +9 points
Hawthorn - MCG - win% 61% - +9 points
Sydney - SCG - 60% - +12 points
GWS - Showgrounds - 60% - +5 points
Collingwood - MCG - 58% - +8 points
Richmond - MCG - 58% - +4 points
Fremantle - Perth Stad - 58% - +3 points
St Kilda - Docklands - 56% - +5 points
Adelaide - AO - 54% - +14 points
Brisbane - Gabba - 53% - +8 points
Melbourne - MCG - 53% - +3 points
Eagles - Perth Stad - 51% - -4 points
Bulldogs - Docklands - 51% - +2 points
North - Docklands - 47% - -1 point
Carlton - MCG - 45% - -5 points
Suns - Carrara - 40% - -10 points


Cats have been playing home games there since the 1940's from memory. In all that time they have managed the highest winning % in home games of any team at their current main home ground. They have the 2nd highest average points surplus per game, narrowly behind Port Adelaide at AO.

Interesting the 3 highest home game points surpluses per match, & 2 of the 3 highest game winning percentages belong to the teams who play home games on the least standard shaped grounds - the long thin Adelaide Oval & the longer & thinner Kardiia Park.

Playing home games at KP has clearly been a big advantage to Geelong, because they are the best performed at their home ground, but far from the best performed club overall since they have been playing home games there.

The Costa Zoo hga is the biggest rort in the AFL.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

I bet Aristotle has NEVER been to a game at GMHBA / Kardinia Park.

I have back in about 1980.

 

[Sttew]

Playing home games at KP has clearly been a big advantage to Geelong, because they are the best performed at their home ground, but far from the best performed club overall since they have been playing home games there.

How is playing home games - and not even the full quota of designated home games - on your home ground in your city rorting the system? Geelong FC rightfully stood their when the AFL tried to relocate the club to Docklands, and now GMHBA is the third biggest AFL stadium in Victoria behind MCG and Docklands, capacity wise.

How is this rorting?

 

[PhatBoy]

Shows a picture that clearly establishes changes relevant to the conversation then tries to claim it hasn't changed. Fmd.

But this is beside the point the ground is a huge outlier in shape and always has been. This is why over time Geelong on average all time have outscored their opponents at the venue by 18 points per match, scoring around 23% more per game there than their opponents on average, & wins 68% of their games there all time.

Current main home ground all time records:

*home ground defined as the ground the team plays the most games on per year on average, only the club's home games at the ground are counted.

Geelong - KP - win% 68% - ave margin - +18 points
Port Adelaide - AO - 67% - +19 points
Essendon - MCG - 64% - +9 points
Hawthorn - MCG - win% 61% - +9 points
Sydney - SCG - 60% - +12 points
GWS - Showgrounds - 60% - +5 points
Collingwood - MCG - 58% - +8 points
Richmond - MCG - 58% - +4 points
Fremantle - Perth Stad - 58% - +3 points
St Kilda - Docklands - 56% - +5 points
Adelaide - AO - 54% - +14 points
Brisbane - Gabba - 53% - +8 points
Melbourne - MCG - 53% - +3 points
Eagles - Perth Stad - 51% - -4 points
Bulldogs - Docklands - 51% - +2 points
North - Docklands - 47% - -1 point
Carlton - MCG - 45% - -5 points
Suns - Carrara - 40% - -10 points


Cats have been playing home games there since the 1940's from memory. In all that time they have managed the highest winning % in home games of any team at their current main home ground. They have the 2nd highest average points surplus per game, narrowly behind Port Adelaide at AO.

Interesting the 3 highest home game points surpluses per match, & 2 of the 3 highest game winning percentages belong to the teams who play home games on the least standard shaped grounds - the long thin Adelaide Oval & the longer & thinner Kardiia Park.

Playing home games at KP has clearly been a big advantage to Geelong, because they are the best performed at their home ground, but far from the best performed club overall since they have been playing home games there.

The Costa Zoo hga is the biggest rort in the AFL.

Just funny that part about how you never quote figures about us being the best performed travelling team across two decades

‘Hey everybody. Come and see how many excuses I can make.’