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Just putting some facts on the table.
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Geelong rorting the system
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I don’t know what measurement you use to draw that conclusion but we had one of the hardest fixtures possible. The AFL made sure they scheduled against our few bogey teams twice.
Of the teams we played once, we won 10/11 of them.
If you change our fixture, we just get more wins.
- Feb 27, 2011
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You have got to be joking, surely?
You scored one of the easiest fixtures of the year.
If 5 of our 6 losses involve sides we played twice how was it easy?You have got to be joking, surely?
You scored one of the easiest fixtures of the year.
You laugh but I invite you to create a fixture where we don’t get more wins.
Who did you want us to play twice? The only sides that really worry us are Lions, Giants and for some reason Saints at marvel and we got them all twice.
Go ahead create a fixture for us and see if you can get us less wins.
Who are you going to schedule us against twice instead of Richmond like it’s going to make any difference?
Give us last years Grand Finalist twice instead? We didn’t get to play Sydney at home.
Maybe instead of Essendon twice you can give us Hawthorn twice who we also didn’t get to play at home.
That way you can make sure we play all of last years top 6 twice like it’s going to make any difference at all.
You see you have to manipulate it so dramatically just to try to get us less wins and even still I highly doubt we are losing them.
Watch the AFL give us Carlton twice next year because they think they are now a side that can beat us.
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Nope, only you are desperate to reference your big conspiracy theory regarding that topic. It's a shame as you're otherwise a decent poster, but everyone has their weak spots. Your bitterness around Geelong clouds your judgement and the platitudes you give about the more recent era come across as insincere tbh.
- Oct 25, 2001
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Don't diminish your own club by pretending that was an easy win,. Scotts coaching, Smiths first half against the tide, and that final quarter from Dangerfield were spectacular.
Sadly for Mrs Cyclops we had to take jnr home ar 3 quarter time.
As for the "conspiracy", I saw what I saw. We all saw it.
It wasn't easy, but compare the last few years of Geelong vs Collingwood compared to our struggles against Brisbane and GWS for instance (who we had double ups for this year). For whatever reason, we just match up well on you guys.
You saw what you saw. Okay, so no evidence at all besides the tenuous links of Thompson's recreational drug use and Geelong ordering one legal supplement from Dank's company. A full review was completed of the club and nothing rule-breaking was found. So yes, you are in conspiracy land on the Thompson flags.
- Oct 25, 2001
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You do match up well, thats fair. Haven't looked at the Geelong Brisbane track record but right now they're the best list, so if they have the upper hand it's not necessarily some intrinsic superiority, more they are in a golden age.
Those aren't the links. The investigation at Essendon stank, not a great believer in drug investigations because of that. Stick with the idiots who think you're cheating now, it's funny stuff.
Liking for the first bolded.
Where's your evidence that Geelong 2007-2010 was in fact a Danked up, illegal cheating scheme? The fact that Robinson and Dank stepped over the line at their next employer? Why would you let Scott off the hook for 2011, given it was the same players who would have "benefited" from an illegal programme in the years leading up to it?
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Evidence as you know is circumstantial, so as long as no one talks you're good.
I'm told the likely benefits were in recovery, Geelong 2011 didn't win because they we re 100% fit, they were more injured than us. A very natural Tom Hawkins and Steve Johnson (who might use drugs, but not 3nhancing ones) beat us.
The 00s were awash with drugs. Dank persuaded Hird to cheat because "Collingwood and Hawthorn are too". We definitely had boys on the recreational, and the Eagles were awash with recreational drugs too.
It was a dirty time. Plenty of cover ups, some worked, some didn't.
Why didn't Dank say "I was secretly employed by Geelong and helped them cheat their way to flags? We burned all the records and I even stayed off the payroll, but I think for Essendon we should leave the evidence lying around"
What do recreationals have to do with anything?
Where's your evidence for cover ups? This is pretty weak stuff. You seem to allude to competition wide cheating, so maybe no flags were valid until the Essendon investigation took place?
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It's the Saints. They are no harm to anyone but themselves.
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All Chronz does is whinge. Nothing to say on how to make our fixture more difficult.
Just love a whinge the anti cat brigade, the tears just flow.
No evidence, zero chance of getting into quickbooks, but they fail the pub test terribly.
Everyone knows the issues.
It’s rinse and repeat year after year.
Maybe we will find out 10-20 years later, like we did when we knew Hawthorn were cheating during the 80’s-90’s.
We all knew Carlton was cooking the books without proof, but they got too arrogant trying to sign up Brown and drew attention to the club that couldn’t be ignored.
It will come out eventually
Everyone knows the issues.
It’s rinse and repeat year after year.
Maybe we will find out 10-20 years later, like we did when we knew Hawthorn were cheating during the 80’s-90’s.
We all knew Carlton was cooking the books without proof, but they got too arrogant trying to sign up Brown and drew attention to the club that couldn’t be ignored.
It will come out eventually
How much better do you sleep at night telling yourself this?
In all seriousness do you know how pathetic and sooky you actually sound? It’s a horrible coping mechanism used by children or those with the mentality of a child.
Take a step back and just look at how whingy you are and how humerous it is to us.
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It's Time!
Odear Whiskers lol.
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Bikies are the link between speed/meth, gym drugs, and Bomber Thompson. Collingwood has more PED strikes than Geelong, because someone put steroids in Lachie Keefe and Ben Kennedy's cocaine.
What Dank said is largely unknown, selections were released to emphasise Hird as the criminal mastermind. We don't know everything he said, we know what the AFL decided to release.
Hird-Dank text messages revealed
Alleged text conversations between James Hird and Stephen Dank reveals Hird's knowledge of 2012 supplements program
www.afl.com.au
Hird was a dumb arrogant campaigner. Its very implausible he created this program. Someone did. he story has been cooked up. There's a list of possible ingredients. Maybe it was me, from my secret lair? Occams Razor suggest Bomber is the crux, but he got a token slap.
There has definitely been PED use in the league, just very few strikes, because if you know what you're doing chemically, and the League doesn't really want to know, then its pretty easy to escape detection.
lol oh dear smasha has been found out. Can’t work out a harder fixture can ya buddy?
You sound like a lefty going straight into a personal attack like that.
Using abuse to close down an opposite viewpoint.
It’s an opinion, not a whine
With some actual facts attached.
You didn’t use any facts. You just sooked and deserve to be called out for it. A pub test? lol.
You want to act like a baby, go for it. I’m going to call it out.
Hawks and Blues are facts!
I was there and lived it, experienced it.
The football community discussed both cases for years with certain suspicion something was awry.
Sydney even put Carltons cap cheating on a run through banner at Princes Park, that’s how obvious it was.
Everyone couldn’t believe the Hawks had a stronger team than state teams of that era.
And it’s very similar to what vibe Geelong is putting out now.
Everyone suspects it, the league did nothing then as they are doing nothing now.
You don’t have to answer if you’re going to be a tosser, just ignore it
